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Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith

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Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith 

Post#1 » by Jammer » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:59 am

1. The Celtics only do this trade if they know Joe Smith will re-sign with them this summer,
and ONLY IF he is their preference over other 2009 free agents like Rasheed Wallace.
Obviously the amount of re-signing and years would have to be worked out,
verbal only, for the Celtics to pull this trigger,
otherwise they hope for a buyout.

2. OKC sends Joe Smith to Boston, expiring $4,795,000 and depending on 4th player,
OKC sends either San Antonio's 2009 First Round (#25 ?) or OKC's 2nd Round Pick (#31)

3. Celtics trade:

Tony Allen, $2,500,000 which counts as last season's $1.8 million outgoing due to BYC status
Basically the trade is 27 year old Tony Allen for 33 year old Joe Smith
The rest of the players from the Celtics are needed to make the trade work

Sam Cassell, $797,581 (Sam must agree to this trade, due to the CBA,
but if OKC waives him at full salary
and he can return to the Celtics as a coach, he'd probably agree)

Glen Davis $711,517
(OKC either waives Davis or
re-routes him to a team that wants him for minimal cash)

One of (Bill Walker, Patrick O'Bryant, Gabe Pruitt, J. R. Giddens)
This is excess over fair value for Joe Smith.
Whichever player the Celtics add,
and assuming that the Celtics would be willing to part with one of the above 4 prospects,
would require OKC yielding in return,
in a particularly weak draft,
with either San Antonio's 2009 First Round Pick (like #25) or
OKC's 2009 2nd Round Pick (probably #31 or 32).
Due to the weakness of this draft class there could be an argument
that Pruitt, Walker or Giddens are worth a pick in the mid-twenties.

This leaves the Celtics at 12 players, they'd need to add one,
but if Marbury comes on board instead of going to the Lakers,
this trade might be doable (Sam Cassell, again, would have to agree to this trade,
as he, like Eddie House, signed a 1 year contract where they will be either
a Bird or Early Bird at the end.)

OKC takes in virtually exactly the same salary, overall, as they send out,
so waiving Cassell and Davis are not an issue,
although they still have one player too many.
Perhaps they will move another player before the trade deadline,
they have quite a few they might send to a team with a trade exception.

Thoughts?
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Re: Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith 

Post#2 » by Papa Irish31 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:17 am

First off no way that sam agrees to waive his no trade clause to go to OU city; the more likely trade would be TA, scal, and JR for Joe smith and maybe kyle weaver
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Re: Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith 

Post#3 » by Jammer » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:20 am

Papa Irish31 wrote:First off no way that sam agrees to waive his no trade clause to go to OU city; the more likely trade would be TA, scal, and JR for Joe smith and maybe kyle weaver


Even if OKC waives Sam, pays him his full salary, plus
Sam gets to return to the Celtics as an Assistant Coach,
or wait 30 days and re-sign as a player???
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Re: Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith 

Post#4 » by greenbeans » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:58 am

Not a chance in hell imo a 4 for 1 happens midseason, MAYBE if Erden's rights were one of the pieces going, but I still doubt it.
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Re: Interesting 4 for 1 to get Joe Smith 

Post#5 » by chakdaddy » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:46 am

How is that over value for Smith when we get the two most valuable pieces in the trade?

In that scenario they give up the best player, who is also an expiring contract, as well as a #1 pick.

While getting in return a few former 2nd round picks who are average prospects. I doubt we could get a #1 pick in exchange for that group, how could we get a #1 plus Joe Smith?

They could do just as well letting Smith leave as a FA and drafting their own 2nd rounder and signing any number of average players of Tony Allen's caliber.

I mean, maybe they'd think about something like the deal if they liked TA and Big Baby...but more than likely we're the one throwing in the draft picks, not them.

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