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10 things about Baby, Powe, playoffs, and all stars
I have a few thoughts during this, the relentless march to banner 18:
1) Big Baby's Resurgence
Remember all the calls for metaphorical infanticide? You probably do since they were still taking place only a month ago. Then something wonderful happened: Glen Davis got into playing shape. That's all it ever was. He came into camp a little heavier and a lot slower. The advantage Baby has over other players is his incredible quickness to size ratio. Without that he is not very useful. Now that his turbo-tootsies have returned Mr. Baby is back on a positive career path.
2) Big Baby's Expanding Game
He can shoot too and not just from five feet and in. Big Baby is by no means the first Celtic frontcourter to expand his range. Ryan Gomes comes to mind as a recent example. Let me go back further though:
Long ago in the 1970's the Celtics drafted a great young center whose nickname also started with the word Big. Big Red was a marvel. Dave Cowens was undersized for the 5 spot but absolutely ferocious. The Celtic coach was Tommy Heinsohn (For those who didn't see the 70's teams play you really missed something. Think Mike D'Antoni style offense coupled with matching defense.)
Because Cowens was so quick he was routinely open for the long jumper. Tommy told Dave to shoot it. Dave replied I can't shoot it, I'll miss. Tommy said it doesn't matter if you miss; if you shoot it now you'll hit it later. And that's what happened.
Returning to the present, Doc and Baby have gone through the exact same conversation. I wonder if Tommy told Doc the Cowens story.
3) Leon
Have the same people who were Baby bashing seamlessly switched to Powe pummeling? Don't you remember how great Leon was in the Finals? Remember how well he started the season? He hasn't forgotten how to play; he's just going through a rough stretch and has gotten inconsistent minutes because of it. Leon shall return!
Leon can play. Baby can play. Quit waiting until guys go through hard times so you can enthusiastically kick them when they're down.
(Scalabrine can play too.)
4) The Final Play Of The Philly Game...
...after Ray Allen hit that shot. Doc wisely placed long tall Patrick O'Bryant on the inbounds then comically motioned for him to wave his arms. Patrick mimicked Doc, jumping and waving like crazy, setting up a frenzied human barrier. The pass had to go over those wildly flailing arms and it sailed high, never having a chance to find it's intended Sixer target. I only note that because it was Patrick's first chance contributing to a critical moment in a win. It was effective and funny.
5) Ball Kids
You know those memos Mike Gorman reads every game advertising, "You can be a Celtics ball kid. You must be ages 13 to 18."
That's nice and all but I have a recommendation: How 'bout give the kids a rest and try some variety: "You can be a Celtics ball geezer. You must be ages 73 to 78."
On second thought, nevermind.
6) A Good Suggestion
That was a dumb idea. Here's a great one:
Via TrueHoop: "The TrueHoop Network gangs up to deliver a killer set of suggestions to reform All-Star Weekend. D-League All-Stars vs. Rookies, anyone?"
http://www.thetwomangame.com/2009/02/sc ... ar-reform/
"Mike Kurylo, Knickerblogger: I’d like to see the freshmen play the NBDL All Stars. It’s become apparent that the NBDL is a viable source of NBA level talent. I think this would be a competitive game, since each has something valuable to play for. The D-Leaguers will be fighting to show that they belong in the league, and they may have an extra chip on their shoulder playing millionaire rookies."
Wouldn't that be cool?
7) HORSE
In case you missed it, the Celtic representative for horse should be Rajon Rondo.
Garnett speaking about Rondo:
"Paul [Pierce] told me never to play that man in H-O-R-S-E and I had to learn the hard way," admits Garnett. "He's really good at using the basket, he's really good at using the backboard and really good with the English. He makes it look easy."
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... ts/?page=2
8) Shorthanded
Before we go through another whiny year of "woe is us" excuses from Laker likers over Bynum's injury, I have two things to point out:
The Celtics won the Finals easily last year playing THREE injured starters.
Three times that I can recall off the top of my head the Celtics lost championships because of injuries: Russell vs. the Hawks in the late 50's. Havlicek vs. the Knicks in the mid 70's. McHale and Walton in 1987. It happens. It's unfortunate. It's part of the game.
9) Quick Hits on the Philly Game
I think Ray sealed the all star replacement spot with that shot.
Uncharacteristically Rondo sort of channeled Tony Allen last night, alternating wonderful possessions with turnovers. He shot 9 for 12 from the field and had 8 assists but gave up the ball 7 times.
Two nice passes Paul Pierce; twice in the last minute.
Good pick on that last play Big Baby.
10) The Celtics Have To Do It Themselves
It was actually better for Boston with Jameer Nelson healthy. Before, Orlando had a decent shot at taking out Cleveland in the playoffs had the seedings worked out. Now Cleveland and Boston meet in the Eastern Finals which like last season will be the REAL FINALS.
1) Big Baby's Resurgence
Remember all the calls for metaphorical infanticide? You probably do since they were still taking place only a month ago. Then something wonderful happened: Glen Davis got into playing shape. That's all it ever was. He came into camp a little heavier and a lot slower. The advantage Baby has over other players is his incredible quickness to size ratio. Without that he is not very useful. Now that his turbo-tootsies have returned Mr. Baby is back on a positive career path.
2) Big Baby's Expanding Game
He can shoot too and not just from five feet and in. Big Baby is by no means the first Celtic frontcourter to expand his range. Ryan Gomes comes to mind as a recent example. Let me go back further though:
Long ago in the 1970's the Celtics drafted a great young center whose nickname also started with the word Big. Big Red was a marvel. Dave Cowens was undersized for the 5 spot but absolutely ferocious. The Celtic coach was Tommy Heinsohn (For those who didn't see the 70's teams play you really missed something. Think Mike D'Antoni style offense coupled with matching defense.)
Because Cowens was so quick he was routinely open for the long jumper. Tommy told Dave to shoot it. Dave replied I can't shoot it, I'll miss. Tommy said it doesn't matter if you miss; if you shoot it now you'll hit it later. And that's what happened.
Returning to the present, Doc and Baby have gone through the exact same conversation. I wonder if Tommy told Doc the Cowens story.
3) Leon
Have the same people who were Baby bashing seamlessly switched to Powe pummeling? Don't you remember how great Leon was in the Finals? Remember how well he started the season? He hasn't forgotten how to play; he's just going through a rough stretch and has gotten inconsistent minutes because of it. Leon shall return!
Leon can play. Baby can play. Quit waiting until guys go through hard times so you can enthusiastically kick them when they're down.
(Scalabrine can play too.)
4) The Final Play Of The Philly Game...
...after Ray Allen hit that shot. Doc wisely placed long tall Patrick O'Bryant on the inbounds then comically motioned for him to wave his arms. Patrick mimicked Doc, jumping and waving like crazy, setting up a frenzied human barrier. The pass had to go over those wildly flailing arms and it sailed high, never having a chance to find it's intended Sixer target. I only note that because it was Patrick's first chance contributing to a critical moment in a win. It was effective and funny.
5) Ball Kids
You know those memos Mike Gorman reads every game advertising, "You can be a Celtics ball kid. You must be ages 13 to 18."
That's nice and all but I have a recommendation: How 'bout give the kids a rest and try some variety: "You can be a Celtics ball geezer. You must be ages 73 to 78."
On second thought, nevermind.
6) A Good Suggestion
That was a dumb idea. Here's a great one:
Via TrueHoop: "The TrueHoop Network gangs up to deliver a killer set of suggestions to reform All-Star Weekend. D-League All-Stars vs. Rookies, anyone?"
http://www.thetwomangame.com/2009/02/sc ... ar-reform/
"Mike Kurylo, Knickerblogger: I’d like to see the freshmen play the NBDL All Stars. It’s become apparent that the NBDL is a viable source of NBA level talent. I think this would be a competitive game, since each has something valuable to play for. The D-Leaguers will be fighting to show that they belong in the league, and they may have an extra chip on their shoulder playing millionaire rookies."
Wouldn't that be cool?
7) HORSE
In case you missed it, the Celtic representative for horse should be Rajon Rondo.
Garnett speaking about Rondo:
"Paul [Pierce] told me never to play that man in H-O-R-S-E and I had to learn the hard way," admits Garnett. "He's really good at using the basket, he's really good at using the backboard and really good with the English. He makes it look easy."
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... ts/?page=2
8) Shorthanded
Before we go through another whiny year of "woe is us" excuses from Laker likers over Bynum's injury, I have two things to point out:
The Celtics won the Finals easily last year playing THREE injured starters.
Three times that I can recall off the top of my head the Celtics lost championships because of injuries: Russell vs. the Hawks in the late 50's. Havlicek vs. the Knicks in the mid 70's. McHale and Walton in 1987. It happens. It's unfortunate. It's part of the game.
9) Quick Hits on the Philly Game
I think Ray sealed the all star replacement spot with that shot.
Uncharacteristically Rondo sort of channeled Tony Allen last night, alternating wonderful possessions with turnovers. He shot 9 for 12 from the field and had 8 assists but gave up the ball 7 times.
Two nice passes Paul Pierce; twice in the last minute.
Good pick on that last play Big Baby.
10) The Celtics Have To Do It Themselves
It was actually better for Boston with Jameer Nelson healthy. Before, Orlando had a decent shot at taking out Cleveland in the playoffs had the seedings worked out. Now Cleveland and Boston meet in the Eastern Finals which like last season will be the REAL FINALS.
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True to form Gant. Especially the part about both Baby and Powe being important to this team. Man if we could get both of those guys firing on all cylinders at the same time we'd be pretty much unstoppable. Imagine Powe running his post moves drawing the double and kicking out to Baby for the jumper.
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Regarding Davis, how does a professional athlete going into his contract year show up in bad shape? If getting in shape was the reason Davis was playing so poorly at the start of the year, I'm not sure I'm all that inclined to pass over it easily. Thank goodness the rest of the team came prepared to play the season.
Personally, I think the reason that Davis is playing so well is that seeing Scal start at Center instead of him scared the bejesus out of him, and he saw his career passing him by. I hope he remembers the lesson.
It's nice to see POB get a few minutes of non-garbage time the last 2 games, it's not out of the question that at some point due to fouls or injuries that he'll be called upon to help.
Personally, I think the reason that Davis is playing so well is that seeing Scal start at Center instead of him scared the bejesus out of him, and he saw his career passing him by. I hope he remembers the lesson.
It's nice to see POB get a few minutes of non-garbage time the last 2 games, it's not out of the question that at some point due to fouls or injuries that he'll be called upon to help.
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Gant wrote:I have a few thoughts during this, the relentless march to banner 18:
1) Big Baby's Resurgence
Remember all the calls for metaphorical infanticide? You probably do since they were still taking place only a month ago. Then something wonderful happened: Glen Davis got into playing shape. That's all it ever was. He came into camp a little heavier and a lot slower. The advantage Baby has over other players is his incredible quickness to size ratio. Without that he is not very useful. Now that his turbo-tootsies have returned Mr. Baby is back on a positive career path.
2) Big Baby's Expanding Game
He can shoot too and not just from five feet and in. Big Baby is by no means the first Celtic frontcourter to expand his range. Ryan Gomes comes to mind as a recent example. Let me go back further though:
Long ago in the 1970's the Celtics drafted a great young center whose nickname also started with the word Big. Big Red was a marvel. Dave Cowens was undersized for the 5 spot but absolutely ferocious. The Celtic coach was Tommy Heinsohn (For those who didn't see the 70's teams play you really missed something. Think Mike D'Antoni style offense coupled with matching defense.)
Because Cowens was so quick he was routinely open for the long jumper. Tommy told Dave to shoot it. Dave replied I can't shoot it, I'll miss. Tommy said it doesn't matter if you miss; if you shoot it now you'll hit it later. And that's what happened.
Returning to the present, Doc and Baby have gone through the exact same conversation. I wonder if Tommy told Doc the Cowens story.
3) Leon
Have the same people who were recently Baby bashing now seamlessly switched to Powe pummeling? Don't you remember how great Leon was in the Finals? Remember how well he started the season? He hasn't forgotten how to play; he's just going through a rough stretch and has gotten inconsistent minutes because of it. Leon shall return!
Leon can play. Baby can play. Quit waiting until guys go through hard times so you can enthusiastically kick them when they're down.
(Scalabrine can play too.)
4) The Final Play Of The Philly Game...
...after Ray Allen hit that shot. Doc wisely placed long tall Patrick O'Bryant on the inbounds then comically motioned for him to wave his arms. Patrick mimicked Doc, jumping and waving like crazy, setting up a frenzied human barrier. The pass had to go over those wildly flailing arms and it sailed high, never having a chance to find it's intended Sixer target. I only note that because it was Patrick's first chance contributing to a critical moment in a win. It was effective and funny.
5) Ball Kids
You know those memos Mike Gorman reads every game advertising, "You can be a Celtics ball kid. You must be ages 13 to 18."
That's nice and all but I have a recommendation: How 'bout give the kids a rest and try some variety: "You can be a Celtics ball geezer. You must be ages 73 to 78."
On second thought, nevermind.
6) A Good Suggestion
That was a dumb idea. Here's a great one:
Via TrueHoop: "The TrueHoop Network gangs up to deliver a killer set of suggestions to reform All-Star Weekend. D-League All-Stars vs. Rookies, anyone?"
http://www.thetwomangame.com/2009/02/sc ... ar-reform/
"Mike Kurylo, Knickerblogger: I’d like to see the freshmen play the NBDL All Stars. It’s become apparent that the NBDL is a viable source of NBA level talent. I think this would be a competitive game, since each has something valuable to play for. The D-Leaguers will be fighting to show that they belong in the league, and they may have an extra chip on their shoulder playing millionaire rookies."
Wouldn't that be cool?
7) HORSE
In case you missed it, the Celtic representative for horse should be Rajon Rondo.
Garnett speaking about Rondo:
"Paul [Pierce] told me never to play that man in H-O-R-S-E and I had to learn the hard way," admits Garnett. "He's really good at using the basket, he's really good at using the backboard and really good with the English. He makes it look easy."
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball ... ts/?page=2
8) Shorthanded
Before we go through another whiny year of "woe is us" excuses from Laker likers over Bynum's injury, I have two things to point out:
The Celtics won the Finals easily last year playing THREE injured starters.
Three times that I can recall off the top of my head the Celtics lost championships because of injuries: Russell vs. the Hawks in the late 50's. Havlicek vs. the Knicks in the mid 70's. McHale and Walton in 1987. It happens. It's unfortunate. It's part of the game.
9) Quick Hits on the Philly Game
I think Ray sealed the all star replacement spot with that shot.
Uncharacteristically Rondo sort of channeled Tony Allen last night, alternating wonderful possessions with turnovers. He shot 9 for 12 from the field and 8 assists but gave up the ball 7 times.
Two nice passes Paul Pierce; twice in the last minute.
Good pick on that last play Big Baby.
10) The Celtics Have To Do It Themselves
It was actually better for Boston with Jameer Nelson healthy. Before, Orlando had a decent shot at taking out Cleveland in the playoffs had the seedings worked out. Now Cleveland and Boston meet in the Eastern Finals which like last season will be the REAL FINALS.
Again....wonderful post.

1.He is playing better...confidence works wonders..he spreads the floor, hits the open shot better..seems to have found his place.
2. Gomes yes....A long ways to go before I think Davey Cowens but I see where you are going.
3. Leon has been moved on some plays to the top of the key I think to get into passing some. He was becoming a black hole down in the post....Leon is gonna be fine.
4. Maybe the start of POB being useful and really part of this team.
7. Might be neat.
8. Yes it is ...a part of the sport..we must move on.
9. Ray should have been picked in the 1st place......Rondo should be the replacement imo.
10. In the old times....the C's have had to do it the hard way before....they will have to do it again.
Thanks again for the post.....

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DorfonCeltics wrote:True to form Gant. Especially the part about both Baby and Powe being important to this team. Man if we could get both of those guys firing on all cylinders at the same time we'd be pretty much unstoppable. Imagine Powe running his post moves drawing the double and kicking out to Baby for the jumper.
Add Scal to the mix.....do we need another big ?

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I'm all about 3. Typical boston fans, they want you to play better, and until you do (which they will be thrilled once you start doing so) they will crap on you and come up up trade ideas until your next double double.
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I'm not so sure about 6. It could be cool, but it could also be a bloody massacre.

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I think 6 would be an awesome idea. If it doesnt work out, just ditch it after the 1st year.
It cant be worse than the "spin a wheel" dunk contest.
It cant be worse than the "spin a wheel" dunk contest.
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Excellent as always Gant.
#6 is a great idea. I think you're off about Allen in the All-Star game.
Top 3 reasons Mo Williams will be chosen:
1. The Cavs and Celts have identical records - best in league - so it wouldn't make sense for one team to have 3 representatives while the other has only one.
2. Ray has been chosen as an all-star replacement twice already
3. Mo is a PG
#6 is a great idea. I think you're off about Allen in the All-Star game.
Top 3 reasons Mo Williams will be chosen:
1. The Cavs and Celts have identical records - best in league - so it wouldn't make sense for one team to have 3 representatives while the other has only one.
2. Ray has been chosen as an all-star replacement twice already
3. Mo is a PG
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on Powe i think he is slowly getting out of the funk that he was in because the last few games he has been playing with better energy and has started to get back to the line. I recall a similar trend for Big Baby prior to him playing better there was a period where he still wasn't putting up good stats but the signs were there that he was turning the corner.
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Cyclical wrote:
1. The Cavs and Celts have identical records - best in league - so it wouldn't make sense for one team to have 3 representatives while the other has only one.
That's a great reason to pick Ilgauskas. Oh, wait ...
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It should be Ray. Mo isn't in the same talent bracket.
Do the Celtics need another big?: Need? Maybe. Want? Yes.
How does Davis arrive in camp out of shape? I don't know but that's the first thing I asked myself in September and probably the first thing Doc asked himself too.
Gently down the stream....
Do the Celtics need another big?: Need? Maybe. Want? Yes.
How does Davis arrive in camp out of shape? I don't know but that's the first thing I asked myself in September and probably the first thing Doc asked himself too.
Gently down the stream....
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One thing in Davis' defense about being "in shape," dude just came off his rookie season, he doesn't know how to stay in game shape and prepare for a season, he has never done it before. Al Jefferson had the same problem. He thought he was in shape because he didn't blow up and get fat like he did when he was kid out of season. Last year was probably the first time Baby didn't blow back up into a 300+lb blimp over the summer. Baby steps, and it is also difficult to duplicate NBA game conditioning in the offseason. It would be nice if Davis would sell his soul to the Waltham practice center like Perk and Ryan did but everyone isn't the same.
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Just a funny story about Baby, thought I would share. We were at the game when Boston was visiting Toronto and one of the fans was mocking Baby, "BABY DONT CRY". I thought there was going be a scene like Detroit-Indy like 6 years ago. Baby was ready to jump into the stance but was held back by the refs and his teammates.
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That's a good point Sully. He's probably is just getting used to the professional conditioning thing.
As far as Big Baby perhaps going into the stands in Toronto: Baby vs. the entire arena is even money.
As far as Big Baby perhaps going into the stands in Toronto: Baby vs. the entire arena is even money.