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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#61 » by Banks2Pierce » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:18 pm

First of all, we're the champs and nothing in the regular season can stop that. All haters/trolls are required to read that statement a few more times.

Second of all, the lakers were chippy as hell in the whole game and weren't called for fouls, while the Celtics were called for fouls for doing LESS THAN THAT on the opposite end of the floor. The GAsol hack on KG, the Bryant cross body block Pierce, DFish doing his patented stupid foul in the last few seconds of the game.

We had no KG in overtime, because of awful calls all night. KG had maybe 2 legit fouls. That is bs.

Anyone who has followed the nba in depth over the last few years knows that there is something to this conspiracy crap, and that Stern and his cronies are dying for LA to get homecourt advantage this year for the finals to play against Cleveland.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#62 » by Rocky5000 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:54 pm

It is up to our team to build enough of a lead that the refs can't be the deciding factor.
With 16 seconds left, we had a 1 point lead, and then the foul was called on Big Baby in the rebounding, which allowed Odom to put the Lakers ahead. So at that point the refs had inserted themselves in to the game, and given the Lakers the game for a small foul. I don't know if there is an unwritten NBA rule that with 16 seconds left, ticky-tack fouls get called, but with less than 10 anything goes, but it's frustrating for the refs to not call the game both ways. If they didn't want the game to be decided at the line, they shouldn't have given Odom the FTs, just like they didn't give Ray the FTs, but there's got to be some consistency. Unfortunately, in the NBA you can't expect that, so it turns out to be a coin flip on whether or not they call fouls.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#63 » by Chubby Chaser » Fri Feb 6, 2009 9:56 pm

LOL the old "blaming the refs" after you got beat on your own court. That's as new as your "Beat LA" chants. 8-)

The game was fair. It was a good game. We didn't have Bynum for the whole game, and you're complaining for not having KG for 5 minutes? Give me a break. You should of won that game hands-down against an undermanned Lakers team. That game last night revealed a lot of both teams.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#64 » by sully00 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:14 pm

It sure did if you can get Garnett out of the game on some cheap fouls we might lose in OT. Dude enough with the melodrama about what this reveals. It doesn't reveal anything except you won a game in overtime. You can't change last June with a game in Dec or Feb. Good for you guys you won the regular season match up are you going to put up a banner for that or just release some balloons.

Were short and your soft whichever does a better job of fixing it or hiding it is going to win.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#65 » by sully00 » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:21 pm

I don't know who this Bynum guy is but we didn't have Scalabrine so we were equally undermanned.
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Post#66 » by goulardi » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:23 pm

Not only was the officiating bad...but Kobe is a weenie. I hope he gets Rondo'd next game.
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Post#67 » by nermindee » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:42 pm

sully00 wrote:I don't know who this Bynum guy is but we didn't have Scalabrine so we were equally undermanned.


you just compared scalabikini to bynum? its crazy what celtic fans start saying when they are experiencing the agony of defeat. :rofl:
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Post#68 » by nermindee » Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:50 pm

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Post#69 » by TonyMontana » Fri Feb 6, 2009 11:28 pm

Rocky5000 wrote:It is up to our team to build enough of a lead that the refs can't be the deciding factor.
With 16 seconds left, we had a 1 point lead, and then the foul was called on Big Baby in the rebounding, which allowed Odom to put the Lakers ahead. So at that point the refs had inserted themselves in to the game, and given the Lakers the game for a small foul. I don't know if there is an unwritten NBA rule that with 16 seconds left, ticky-tack fouls get called, but with less than 10 anything goes, but it's frustrating for the refs to not call the game both ways. If they didn't want the game to be decided at the line, they shouldn't have given Odom the FTs, just like they didn't give Ray the FTs, but there's got to be some consistency. Unfortunately, in the NBA you can't expect that, so it turns out to be a coin flip on whether or not they call fouls.


Hey Rock........ VERY GOOD POST Brahh.
I agree with you a 100%.
The only thing I would like to add is.
You know I post on this board a lot, I might not agree with you or other posters on here AT TIMES, BUT I do say it as I see it and I know Im not the best poster on here which Im not trying to be yet I keep it on a professional level and try to be as good as I can to reply with my own personal B-Ball experince and having so much love and passion for this game.

Now tell me one thing?
Before the Christmas game, all you guys posted was The Cs dont care about this game, The Lakers want it more than we do. Its our redemtion game etc etc.
After the Christmas loss there were numerous threads and posts about how when the Lakers come to the garden it will be a different ball game, all the posts that I saw realated to the Lakers were see you in Feb, see you in Feb.

Now Feb came and the N# 1 seed in the E/C was at home in front of their crowds at the Garden, just like you guys mentioned in every post, yet tell me somthing??
How can the N# 1 ranked offense and the Best Defensive team allow a soft overrated team like the Lakers to have such a close game even till the end when you guys could've put us away and you didnt.
I mean not only did we choke from the freethrow line, but you guys had a lead of 8 points mid thrid qt, and then 2:00 minute mark you guys were up by 5 you guys gave that lead away.
The game went into O.T and it was still anybody game yet you guys took the lead again and you couldnt close us out.

So as you posted, here we are in your house playing your style of defense and we are matching you guys point for point.
This game shouldnt have been decided by the reffs and it wasnt, we can sit here and keep on posting back and forth about who fouled who and who got the worst calls and comeup with every conspiracy we can think of about Stern and KOBE and Lebron Finals, but at the end the soft Lakers were the underdog and they came into the garden and walked away with a W.

Me personally I would be pissed at my team that allowed a large lead to get away from us for not being able to close out this game, and I wouldnt blame anybody other than MY TEAM for allowing the opposing team to have their way in our house, specially the defending champs.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#70 » by nonplayerzealot » Sat Feb 7, 2009 12:30 am

JR Hawks wrote:Good lord. Blaming the refs gets so old everytime we lose.

Why not blame our poor defense? Or Pierce's missed free throws in the 4th? Or Big Baby's ill-advised jump shots? Or Perk laying yet another egg against the Lakers? Or Doc for playing Big Baby over Powe when Powe is clearly playing better? Or Ainge for gutting our bench in the offseason? Or Wyc for being dumb enough to think we can repeat on the cheap?


Do they simulcast your games on radio? I wonder what Heinsohn's heart rate was. His varicose veins were probably bulging something fierce.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#71 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Sat Feb 7, 2009 5:47 pm

nermindee wrote:
sully00 wrote:I don't know who this Bynum guy is but we didn't have Scalabrine so we were equally undermanned.


you just compared scalabikini to bynum? its crazy what celtic fans start saying when they are experiencing the agony of defeat. :rofl:


Congratulations on being the biggest idiot on the planet. You can put the banner for that up with your "Regular Season Series Winners" banner.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#72 » by druggas » Sat Feb 7, 2009 10:04 pm

Just a couple things.
KG wouldn't have fouled out if:
1...He didn't already have 5 fouls.
2...He didn't foul right in front of the official.
3...He didn't bark at any Lakers.

All in all it was a good game. It was sloppy, but it was very intense.
The "soft" label should now be gone since Gasol has played KG to a draw.
Lakers have improved since last year, but Celts have lost key people.

I saved this one for last. Gasol wooped KG on Christmas day for those of you that didn't get a chance to watch. Don't know if his fouling out really made much difference. Blame him for not playing smart.

Big Baby taking clutch shots? Odom making 2 foul shots to go ahead? I hope to never have to see that again!
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#73 » by Kefa461 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 1:12 am

druggas wrote:Just a couple things.
KG wouldn't have fouled out if:
1...He didn't already have 5 fouls.
2...He didn't foul right in front of the official.
3...He didn't bark at any Lakers.

All in all it was a good game. It was sloppy, but it was very intense.
The "soft" label should now be gone since Gasol has played KG to a draw.
Lakers have improved since last year, but Celts have lost key people.

I saved this one for last. Gasol wooped KG on Christmas day for those of you that didn't get a chance to watch. Don't know if his fouling out really made much difference. Blame him for not playing smart.

Big Baby taking clutch shots? Odom making 2 foul shots to go ahead? I hope to never have to see that again!


I hope we do..... 8-)
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Post#74 » by Anklebreaker702 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 11:06 am

sully00 wrote:It sure did if you can get Garnett out of the game on some cheap fouls we might lose in OT. Dude enough with the melodrama about what this reveals. It doesn't reveal anything except you won a game in overtime. You can't change last June with a game in Dec or Feb. Good for you guys you won the regular season match up are you going to put up a banner for that or just release some balloons.

Were short and your soft whichever does a better job of fixing it or hiding it is going to win.
FOR THE LAST TIME! I hope all you guys read this well. No one is trying to change last June! It's impossible & I as a Lakers fan have congratulated you guys on the win numerous times. What it's beginning to sound like to me is some of you guys are so unsure about '09 you keep running back to '08 as a saftey net. IT'S OVER, MOVE ON!
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Post#75 » by AlCelticFan » Sun Feb 8, 2009 11:24 am

I will throw in my 2 cents.

The Garnett foul that he fouled out on sucked. He got fouled twice right before it. Then they called one on him. Lame.

Glen Davis is about 1/3 the player Garnett is. If we tied with him, we would have won with KG.

Props to LA. They beat us. Nothing you can say to that. They got us twice, but I have hope we will be good come playoff time, considering I consider we would have won this if KG didn't foul out.
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Re: It all comes down to the refs... 

Post#76 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Feb 9, 2009 5:27 pm

nermindee wrote:
sully00 wrote:I don't know who this Bynum guy is but we didn't have Scalabrine so we were equally undermanned.


you just compared scalabikini to bynum? its crazy what celtic fans start saying when they are experiencing the agony of defeat. :rofl:


Seriously...we all know WiltKarAndrew Abdul JaBynumChamberlain (God that never gets old!) is first-ballot HOF material at this very instant...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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