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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#21 » by campybatman » Sun Feb 8, 2009 2:57 am

greenbeans wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NBA_Draft

Wow, what a garbage draft. in a redo Rondo would be top 5 imo



Yeah, but remember that Michael Jordan got the credit for selecting Morrison. That would be the same Jordan I believe that selected Kwame Brown while working for Washington.

In a draft redo of 2006, I think Toronto selects Aldridge first. Charlotte would've selected Roy if they'd any foresight as most believed prior to the draft that Roy was the most NBA ready, I recall. Meanwhile, Atlanta could've selected Rondo. Their best point guards at the time were Claxton and Lue.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#22 » by nonplayerzealot » Sun Feb 8, 2009 6:56 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:This is like the Brian Cook for Trevor Ariza deal last year. Lakers will see if they can eventually turn things around for Morrison like they did for Ariza this year. If not, they save some money.


It's only the same in the sense that losing Cook, Kwame, Smush, Vlad, Rush, Chucky, Slava, Samaki all felt like taking huge post-Thanksgiving dumps.

Relief no matter what they got back in return.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#23 » by nonplayerzealot » Sun Feb 8, 2009 6:59 am

MVP16 wrote:I haven't seen Radmanovic play this year, but he gave you guys the option of putting him at the 4 and spreading the floor. I remember that was one of the keys in the Lakers making that huge run in the 4th quarter of game 2 and almost winning that game. Jeff Van Gundy really advocated the idea of putting Vlad at the 4 and spreading the floor for Kobe.


That's myth. Most teams weren't afraid to leave Radmanovic open or they would do it to make him beat them instead of Kobe. A lot of times, Rad's man would help his SG chase Kobe out 15 feet beyond the arc just to make it tougher for him.

No one's afraid of Vlad. I can count the number of deadly shooting performances from the arc he's had here on one hand (and one of them was w/ the Sonics).
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#24 » by Bruiser » Sun Feb 8, 2009 10:55 am

I don't like this move for the Lakers. They lose a rotation player.
Morrison is a subpar defender, a very weak player by NBA standards and has not show any signs of being able to improve his career.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#25 » by Mahoney_jr » Sun Feb 8, 2009 3:37 pm

Good move by the Lakers. That saves them a lot of money. I'm curious how Vlad fares in Charlotte. Maybe he is the right guy for that system.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#26 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Feb 8, 2009 5:47 pm

Bruiser wrote:I don't like this move for the Lakers. They lose a rotation player.
Morrison is a subpar defender, a very weak player by NBA standards and has not show any signs of being able to improve his career.
No we don't cause Vlad wasn't in the rotation anyway, he didn't even play against your squad. This move is not about what player we're getting now this sets up flexibility for down the road nothing more nothing less.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#27 » by Bruiser » Sun Feb 8, 2009 6:41 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
Bruiser wrote:I don't like this move for the Lakers. They lose a rotation player.
Morrison is a subpar defender, a very weak player by NBA standards and has not show any signs of being able to improve his career.
No we don't cause Vlad wasn't in the rotation anyway, he didn't even play against your squad. This move is not about what player we're getting now this sets up flexibility for down the road nothing more nothing less.


My bad. Then, great move for the Lakers!! Congratulations!!!
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#28 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Feb 9, 2009 4:24 pm

thebirdman wrote:Great trade for LA, they trade a horrible player with 3 years left for a horrible player with 2 years left...


Agreed...I see this as a lateral, if not downward trade for the Lakers...at least Vlad could hit the outside shot occasionally...
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#29 » by tlee324 » Mon Feb 9, 2009 6:10 pm

Morrison plays zilch defense, is a one-dimensional player, and I don't think he can get his shot off as well as Radman, who also plays horrendous defense. I think it was just a contract move, and maybe they can sucker some team into getting some value for him down the road on his name alone.

Thank God we didn't trade Pierce to get Morrison... lol.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#30 » by kevin_405 » Mon Feb 9, 2009 6:45 pm

This trade is about dumping Vladi and getting Salary cap space and adding another gaurd Shannon Brown.

Adam may be a washout but Shannon will get to play when Farmar picks up those hand checking fouls and he also is a good defender..

This trade is great for us. We keep our starters and bench rotation intact and add depth at both SF and SG positions..
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#31 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Feb 9, 2009 8:13 pm

BadMuthaCeltic wrote:Morrison plays zilch defense, is a one-dimensional player, and I don't think he can get his shot off as well as Radman, who also plays horrendous defense. I think it was just a contract move, and maybe they can sucker some team into getting some value for him down the road on his name alone.

Thank God we didn't trade Pierce to get Morrison... lol.


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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#32 » by Bird4Three » Mon Feb 9, 2009 9:37 pm

Morrison has been an NBA bust so far, but I'm not ready to give up on him. In the right system, and with some confidence back, he could be at least as good as Radmanovic. At least the Lakers got a young player with something to prove, instead of a coasting older player like Rad. Not that I want the Lakers to be any better, but.......
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#33 » by avi623 » Mon Feb 9, 2009 11:17 pm

I don't like people referring to Morrison as a one dimensional player. Nobody is actually pointing out what his one dimension actually is. He shoots under 40%, can't rebound, doesn't pass, and can't defend. If by one dimensional, you mean in a "being able to grow a 70's porn mustache" kind of way, I see your point. Otherwise, he is a zero dimensional player.

Otherwise, this trade is a total wash. Lakers save a couple bucks and Brown may pan out as a backup. Vlad Rad will get some burn on a bad Bobcats team that has no direction anyway.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#34 » by kevin_405 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:26 pm

Assuming Lakers are a contention team.. they will always be above the cap for the next 2-3 years..

So the 8 million saving off Rados contract translates to 16 million dollars saving..
We had no use for Vlad Rad so I say even if both the guys we got in return are busts we are in a good position..



avi623 wrote:I don't like people referring to Morrison as a one dimensional player. Nobody is actually pointing out what his one dimension actually is. He shoots under 40%, can't rebound, doesn't pass, and can't defend. If by one dimensional, you mean in a "being able to grow a 70's porn mustache" kind of way, I see your point. Otherwise, he is a zero dimensional player.

Otherwise, this trade is a total wash. Lakers save a couple bucks and Brown may pan out as a backup. Vlad Rad will get some burn on a bad Bobcats team that has no direction anyway.
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Post#35 » by Celtsfan1980 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:22 pm

Great to see Jordan help with the Lakers' payroll. Jordan has had absolutely no success, and the only good trade he's done is by trading with Kerr. I feel bad for Suns and Bobcats fans. I think Jordan may go down as the worst GM ever.
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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#36 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:00 pm

Certainly no one will match Jordan in the dichotomy of success as a player vs success as a GM...what a contrast!
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Post#37 » by GuyClinch » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:58 am

^^^ I don't get the idea that MJ puts the same kind of effort into GMing he did into playing.. The whole Morrison thing is like he said to himself. Well that guy has some buzz - let me take him. Maybe he is the next Bird?

It didn't take a genius to know he played in some semi Div. I weak sauce conference which makes average white players look great. Just ask Dan Dickau..

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Re: Adam Morrison traded for Vlad Rad 

Post#38 » by MyInsatiableOne » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:11 pm

GuyClinch wrote:^^^ I don't get the idea that MJ puts the same kind of effort into GMing he did into playing.. The whole Morrison thing is like he said to himself. Well that guy has some buzz - let me take him. Maybe he is the next Bird?

It didn't take a genius to know he played in some semi Div. I weak sauce conference which makes average white players look great. Just ask Dan Dickau..

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Good point...MJ seems to spend more time on the golf course or at the craps table than in his GM chair, it seems. Although it's VERY weird to see him on the floor talking to players DURING GAMES...WTF is up with that? What other GM does this? Is this a case of "I'm MJ, bitches, I do what I want?"
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