Your Opinion - What's Wrong with Our Captain?

[exculpatory]

Bru my homie

Joe never feels stupid. He is oblivious to feeling stupid. No matter how many hundreds of times his negative predictions prove to be wrong, he keeps right on trucking. He is hopeless. I have tried to befriend him and reason with him. Nothing works. I give up on him.

Please read and respond to my posts (and the posts of Dunk on Me) at the end of the Game 6 game thread.

We are going to win tomorrow, and Paul and Rondo will lead the way. BOOK IT, BRO!

PEACE

[BRUNiNHO91]

Bru my homie

Joe never feels stupid. He is oblivious to feeling stupid. No matter how many hundreds of times his negative predictions prove to be wrong, he keeps right on trucking. He is hopeless. I have tried to befriend him and reason with him. Nothing works. I give up on him.

Please read and respond to my posts (and the posts of Dunk on Me) at the end of the Game 6 game thread.

We are going to win tomorrow, and Paul and Rondo will lead the way. BOOK IT, BRO!

PEACE

He really doesn't...I mean you would think that by the 5th billion wrong prediction he made, he would just give it a rest...but no..he just keeps on predicting, until the day some **** he says sticks to the wall and he comes here giving US **** as if he was so damn right..

I agree though..Paul and Rondo will win us this game..Ray too...

[Joebiscuit]

I know what PP is tired, I have been watching all season. I think that all around Salmons has had a better series that PP has. Salmons has played better defense, had less turnovers and was more clutch at the FT line. This series would be over right now had PP hit that FT in game 1.

And yes I do think the bulls will win tomorrow.

[BRUNiNHO91]

I know what PP is tired, I have been watching all season. I think that all around Salmons has had a better series that PP has. Salmons has played better defense, had less turnovers and was more clutch at the FT line. This series would be over right now had PP hit that FT in game 1.

Im sick of this 'HAD Pierce made that FT we win the series' bull...like damn...can't we make this arguement for every other player on the team??

Had Ray Allen scored 10 pts in game one we win this series.
Had Big Baby made some lay ups in game 4 we win this series.
Had Rondo made his FT's yesterday, and had he not took a stupid fade away jumper in our last possession we win this series.

Why do I not see you saying 'Had PP not went crazy in OT of game 5 we lose this series' or ' Had PP not OWNED Salmons in the 1st quarter of game one we lose this series'??

Come on...Pierce's numbers have been better than Salmons..

[GuyClinch]

Im sick of this 'HAD Pierce made that FT we win the series' bull...like damn...can't we make this arguement for every other player on the team??

Exactly - and despite all the gnashing we are one game away from moving on..without KG. Yes Pierce isn't as athletic as he was in HS or even back in the we have to beat NJ days but that's to be expected. He is still plenty effective out there.

His buddy Walker is like basically out of the league isn't he? So we should probably count our lucky stars at this point..

[Joebiscuit]

Come on...Pierce's numbers have been better than Salmons.

Antoine Walker put up great numbers for years bricking shot after shot, turning the ball over and playing poor defense. Numbers are not everything.

Zack Randolph puts up better numbers than KG or Duncan. Would you pick Randolph to be on your team over and Duncan or Garnett? Probably not.

[Al-Haqq]

Damn, the way you guys are talking is as if he's in the Ray Allen slump of last year.

He's is not playing bad AT ALL.

He's made more bad decisions than usual but it's the situation they're in. The defense is all about stopping Pierce, and no KG or Leon hurts and affects his game as you can see because Perk can't shoot either. He's shooting 44FG% which is average, but you guys are talking as if he's shooting 35%.

Kobe is shooting 46%
Joe Johnson 38%
Wade 43%
B.Roy 46%
Ray Allen 45%

Paul Pierce 44%

You guys just don't know what you're talking about. He IS NOT in a slump or anything near that. They're doubling him every time because Rondo can't shoot and Doc plays him over House. Too many iso plays on the WING and a lot of traps.

He obviously can play better but I haven't seen anything which suggests he's in a slump. LOL.

[Joebiscuit]

Al-Haqqn his offense is not the major issue. It is his missed FT's bad turnovers and poor defense. The TO he made last night cost the celtics the game. Tie game with the ball and under a minute to go and he passes it right to Noah. On top of that he makes a rookie mistake, fouls Noah who he has ZERO chance to make a play and fouls himself out. 3 point game, game over.

[exculpatory]

Bru - You made a great response to Biscuit's typically uninformed analysis. Edit your last sentence -you meant when Paul owned Salmons in the first quarter of Game 3 (which won the game), and when he blew him away in the fourth quarter and OT of Game 5 (stuff which legends are made from). Unfortunately, Joey will not understand the excellent points you made or he will ignore it.

Guy - Right on point as usual, my friend.

Al Haqq - Ditto what you said.

Guys, it is hopeless to reason with Joey. He will continue to spout always negative and 99% wrong predictions, as well as uninformed conclusions, indefinitely. He does seem to have a slight sense of humor, and I would like him to join us as "realistically positive" fans, but I have just about given up.

SURPRISE! HE PREDICTS A LOSS TOMORROW ALSO. LOL. And then he will disappear when we win.
But then he will be back to predict 4 losses to the Magic. Hopeless.

[Joebiscuit]

Bru - You made a great response to Biscuit's typically uninformed analysis. Edit your last sentence -you meant when Paul owned Salmons in the first quarter of Game 3 (which won the game), and when he blew him away in the fourth quarter and OT of Game 5 (stuff which legends are made from). Unfortunately, Joey will not understand the excellent points you made or he will ignore it.

Guy - Right on point as usual, my friend.

Al Haqq - Ditto what you said.

Guys, it is hopeless to reason with Joey. He will continue to spout always negative and 99% wrong predictions, as well as uninformed conclusions, indefinitely. He does seem to have a slight sense of humor, and I would like him to join us as "realistically positive" fans, but I have just about given up.

SURPRISE! HE PREDICTS A LOSS TOMORROW ALSO. LOL. And then he will disappear when we win.
But then he will be back to predict 4 losses to the Magic. Hopeless.

Speaking of disappear, how about a bet? If the Celtics win tomorrow I will leave until October. If they lose you leave the boards until October. What do you say?

[exculpatory]

Bet is on. Bye bye Joey.

[Cyclical]

Funny how every topic now turns into Joe vs the world.

The original premise of this thread was that Pierce is not playing to his usual standards in this series. No need to get defensive. Paul has said as much after game 4 and I think he'll admit the same after the last game. My question was "in your opinion, what's the reason". That's all. It's not a negative attitude or a revolutionary notion; just reality. He has not looked right. Even when going for 29 he was 9-24 with 6 TO's, only 1 assist, and some mental breakdowns. Pierce is my favorite player. I think he's one of the most underrated stars in recent memory. I trust he'll bounce back. I trust we'll win game 7. There's nothing wrong with saying is isn't looking right.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Bru - You made a great response to Biscuit's typically uninformed analysis. Edit your last sentence -you meant when Paul owned Salmons in the first quarter of Game 3 (which won the game), and when he blew him away in the fourth quarter and OT of Game 5 (stuff which legends are made from). Unfortunately, Joey will not understand the excellent points you made or he will ignore it.

Yeah...lol...Where the hell did i get game 1 from?? ....thanks for correcting me...

And good bet with the Biscuit btw. I was hoping you would take it when I read it. We are going to win tomorrow my dude. And we will go to a second round without having to put up with his ****...all thanks to you..

[exculpatory]

Yo Bru

I had to take the bet for the sake of the quality posters on this board like you, Kefa, SamIam, GuyClinch, Cyclical and many more. The guy simply does not know how to think realistically but positively. His neverending constant negative predictions (which, as you pointed out earlier, are wrong 99% of the time) destroy every thread and suck the joy out of being a Celtic fan and sharing the highs and lows with other positive realists on this board.

I NOT ONLY WANT A WIN. I WANT TO DESTROY THEM TOMORROW, AND PUT AN END TO THE BULLS AND AT LEAST TEMPORARILY HAVE OUR "FRIEND" DISAPPEAR.

[3pt %]

Pierce is playing well, but it is hard to deny that he is looking pretty damn tired out there.

That said, he is playing through it and still delivering. He just looks exhausted while doing it.

[Fencer reregistered]

Pierce is playing well, but it is hard to deny that he is looking pretty damn tired out there.

That said, he is playing through it and still delivering. He just looks exhausted while doing it.

Pierce has never quite had the consistent stamina of Kobe or Lebron. I conjecture he needs to expend a little more effort to play superbly because he has a little less athleticism.

That's not to overlook that Kobe and LBJ have lousy games from time to time. But I suspect Pierce has sub-par energy more often than they do.

[exculpatory]

Fencer

You may be right.

Lebron is beyond belief and a complete freak of nature. He is incredibly muscular, has hardly any body fat, and is 260 freaking pounds. Kobe is not as muscular/strong as Paul, but he is more lithe, still strong as hell, and has less body fat. I guarantee you that Paul has to work much much harder than Kobe to keep his weight down. When Paul retires and gets into his 40s/50s, he will have obesity issues unless he consciously continues to work out regularly and rigorously.

All 3 of them (and for that matter 95% of NBA players) are incredibly aerobic. It is a no brainer that the average professional bball and soccer player is much much more fit than your average football and baseball player.

Ex

[KG_21_05]

lets be honest its not on Pierce our best player n actualy captain is out...takes away so much floor spacing that leaves driving lanes for Paul, hes at his best when he gets to the rim cause it opens up his mid-range specialty but without KG he has to drive through clustered lanes almost everytime. And we all know Pierce isnt the quickest or the strongest, its basically just the lane being closed and when he cant get to the basket, he essentially becomes one dimentional...i just hope we can win game 7