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Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury

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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#21 » by JMillott » Sun Jun 7, 2009 3:09 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:That guy should be Sheed. Sheed defends Howard very well. Still can post up periodically and will extend the floor (something missing off the bench since Posey left- besides House)


You do realize that he doesn't defend Dwight as well as Perkins does right? Not to mention its kinda unlikely that Sheed will be able to handle Dwight at all at age 35 or older going forward. Dice also looked like he had alot more left in the tank then Sheed towards the end of the year.

I also think we can sign Dice for less money and get the exact same effort out of him regardless of if he gets 20 minutes a night or 30 minutes a night. I think if Sheed signs and doesn't start over Perkins that he'll be rather unhappy about it and vice versa.

I'm a longtime Rasheed Wallace fan as i'm a UNC fan when it comes to college ball dating back to the 80's with King Rice, JR Reid and Rick Fox but if he is really looking for 8 million a year at age 35 i'd rather look at Dice.
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#22 » by chakdaddy » Sun Jun 7, 2009 4:20 am

JMillott wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:That guy should be Sheed. Sheed defends Howard very well. Still can post up periodically and will extend the floor (something missing off the bench since Posey left- besides House)


You do realize that he doesn't defend Dwight as well as Perkins does right?


Who does?
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#23 » by campybatman » Sun Jun 7, 2009 5:18 am

I remember reading that R. Wallace would rather not play center. Power forward is his naturally position anyways. If he were to sign with Boston, he would be the primary backup to Garnett. Rivers could play him at center too, but if he and Perkins are on the floor together while Garnett rest. He'll be at the power forward. Personally, I would rather Ainge make an attempt to sign McDyess. Because I think Detroit will focus their attention this off-season on Boozer (all indications are he'll opt out), and Wallace could be more attracted to signing with Dallas or San Antonio where he could start. But, he'll have to play center if he does...
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#24 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Jun 7, 2009 8:37 am

bonsaiflipflops wrote:I remember reading that R. Wallace would rather not play center. Power forward is his naturally position anyways. If he were to sign with Boston, he would be the primary backup to Garnett. Rivers could play him at center too, but if he and Perkins are on the floor together while Garnett rest. He'll be at the power forward. Personally, I would rather Ainge make an attempt to sign McDyess. Because I think Detroit will focus their attention this off-season on Boozer (all indications are he'll opt out), and Wallace could be more attracted to signing with Dallas or San Antonio where he could start. But, he'll have to play center if he does...

Sheed has basically played C ever since Ben Wallace left. It is actually his best position now, as his mobility has decreased. Many PFs these days are actually SFs and he can't cover them.

If he played with the Spurs, he'd be the starting PF, as Duncan has played C for the past several seasons despite what the Spurs list him (they only say he is a PF so he'll be considered the best PF ever and so he'll make the all-star team as Yao will always get more votes)
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#25 » by campybatman » Sun Jun 7, 2009 7:41 pm

But, Duncan doesn't like to play center either. He wouldn't start at center if the Spurs signed R. Wallace. Wallace would play center.

Rasheed really liked having Ben there because he was able to play power forward. But, age might be beginning to catch up to Rasheed. Not to mention, Rasheed seems to like to play on the perimeter which makes him a mismatch for opposing centers like Brad Miller, Okur or Bargnani.
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#26 » by IgotCrossed » Sun Jun 7, 2009 10:59 pm

Ray Allen for Shaq?
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#27 » by Dirty Water » Sun Jun 7, 2009 11:04 pm

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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#28 » by sully00 » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:41 am

"True Centers" are overrated but this team does need to add size most likely in addition to keeping Davis.

Besides Wallace and McDyess who are obvious fits for Boston, there are two other guys to keep an eye on eye.

One is Camby he is going to want to get the hell out of Clipperland and may want to come East. That said he is a bit long in the tooth and pricey to trade for.

The other is Lamar Odom. He has expressed a desire to come East and is just going to be a FA in the wrong offseason. He has flaws but he also has some incredible skills. The Lakers gave his money to Bynum for better or worse and would probably be better served to resign Ariza at the SF spot. The Lakers may also look to do right by Odom simliar to Boston with Antoine going to Miami, while helping the Celtics would obviously be difficult taking back Allen, Scalabrine, and Pruitt might actually be useful to the Lakers as they could round out there bench.

While Odom is not a "true center" by any means he can play big and while he can be an enigma at times I think that Doc and KG would do wonders for him after having to deal with Kobe and Phil.
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#29 » by Roscoe Sheed » Mon Jun 8, 2009 5:00 am

bonsaiflipflops wrote:But, Duncan doesn't like to play center either. He wouldn't start at center if the Spurs signed R. Wallace. Wallace would play center.

Rasheed really liked having Ben there because he was able to play power forward. But, age might be beginning to catch up to Rasheed. Not to mention, Rasheed seems to like to play on the perimeter which makes him a mismatch for opposing centers like Brad Miller, Okur or Bargnani.

Duncan may not like it, but he has essentially played center ever since Robinson retired.

Besides, there are so few true centers in the league that it really doesn't matter
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#30 » by cisco » Mon Jun 8, 2009 12:20 pm

s1ickd wrote:Honestly, i'd be interested in singing and trading Davis for someone like a Stro Swift or Steven Hunter.


Wow, you think those players are better than Davis? :lol:
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#31 » by JMillott » Mon Jun 8, 2009 10:05 pm

I have little interest in keeping Davis unless its at Eddie House or Tony Allen money and length. He is a usable role player here because of the attention defenses give to Pierce and Allen allowed him open jumpers all day long.

He was/is a terrible rebounder, he is over weight and lacks both length and athletic ability which makes him likely a single injury away from being out of the league.

He can't be viewed as a what he was as a starter because it was a product of teams daring him to beat them, he has to be judged for what he brings when playing as part of our bench when teams play him honestly.
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#32 » by GregB » Mon Jun 8, 2009 11:04 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:i would offer bigger money for chris anderson. Think minus the coke habit, he's great fit at the 5 for this team.

And danny looked at him last year. shoulda, coulda, woulda


Last year Denver had exclusive rights to him coming off his suspension. I am pretty sure he is an UFA this year though.
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#33 » by Avalanche » Mon Jun 8, 2009 11:07 pm

he is... but im almost certain he has no interest in leaving denver, and nor would they want him to

that being said, he would be an amzing pick up if its at all possible
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Re: Celts need to acquire a true Center and keep Marbury 

Post#34 » by GregB » Tue Jun 9, 2009 1:12 am

Avalanche wrote:he is... but im almost certain he has no interest in leaving denver, and nor would they want him to

that being said, he would be an amzing pick up if its at all possible


Money is all I got. He missed out on a lot of money by getting suspended. I think we could be in a position to offer him more money with KGs salary going down nearly 8 million next year.

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