OT:Orlando gives away Finals....

[MyInsatiableOne]

Dont u think it is a cop out to blame Garnetts injury.. The Celtics Magic series went to 7 games.. they lost the series on home court..

I think the coaching staff is to blame.. it was a winnable series as far i saw the games...

Its not a cop out. Its a fact. The fact that we took them to 7 shows how good of a starting five we have.

It shows how flawed the Magic were, too....our bench was **** this year yet they stepped into starting roles and should have won the series in 6 games...

[TonyMontana]

Dont u think it is a cop out to blame Garnetts injury.. The Celtics Magic series went to 7 games.. they lost the series on home court..

I think the coaching staff is to blame.. it was a winnable series as far i saw the games...

I think the celtics and cavs failure to beat the Magic was a failure of the respective coaching staff in understanding the Magic offensive schemes... Both the Celts and Cavs could and should have beaten the magic..

The only reason we lost is because we didn't have our best player. I'd like to see the Lakers win without Kobe or even just an injury to Pau Gasol for that matter.

Honestly Kevin, I dont think its a cop out. They probably couldve made it to the finals with K.G, but I strongly disagree that they couldve beaten the Lakers in the finals this year even with K.G.

The Lakers were on a roll and they were very strong on both ends of the court. But the same could be said as far as our loss last year, we didnt have Bynum and Ariza as you can clearly see that Ariza was the BIG X FACTOR for our success this year, and Bynum even with his injuries he still did well when he was in the game.
Also the Cs fans need to keep in mind that Pau had just came to LA close to mid way through the season so he the team chemistry wasnt there and he was still trying to fit in P.J system.

Thats why these arguments shouldnt even be taken seriously cause its all about WHAT IF this and If we had so and so. I think just like we excepted our injuries and they happened at the wrong time the Cs had the same problem, so its unfair to take away credit from the other teams success with the what ifs.

All I know is we did play the Cs twice this year in regular season and technically even though some people love to claim that regular season doesnt really count, I think it does. it makes teams adjust and scout each others teams incase they meet in the playoffs or the finals and in this case us being at full force without Bynum yet again and learing from our mistakes from last years finals gave us a good idea as to who was the better team this year.

My 2 cents.

[GuyClinch]

^^^ I tend to agree. Its'a cop out. I don't think Danny or most fans believe we can win next year simply by standing pat and getting a few pieces of garbage of the bench. I think the Lakers grew after their humbling defeat last year..

[MyInsatiableOne]

^^^ I tend to agree. Its'a cop out. I don't think Danny or most fans believe we can win next year simply by standing pat and getting a few pieces of garbage of the bench. I think the Lakers grew after their humbling defeat last year..

I can agree with this. I kind of feel Danny rested on his laurels and took a half-assed approach to the bench, and we paid for it. We cannot afford to do that again...

[dingclancy]

Lakers are gonna win #10...

Ever notice, though, how lately the Lakers feast on overmatched and/or mediocre teams when they win their titles? Pacers (2000), 76ers (2001), Nets (2002)...only the 1980s Lakers (and the 1972 team) faced real tests...

East sucked during the three-peat... not our fault. It's sad though that as much as the East sucked, Boston can't get to the Finals those years. Maybe your team should have done something about it.

[nonplayerzealot]

Boston can't beat Cleveland on the road. Tell me, were things gonna change if KG were healthy?

[tombattor]

Boston can't beat Cleveland on the road. Tell me, were things gonna change if KG were healthy?

You are absolutely right. But at least if the Celtics beat the Magic, the Lakers wouldn't be celebrating right now. Cavs or the Celtics would have wiped their asses with the Lakers. Orlando is pathetic.

[LAKESHOW]

CHOKE

If they lose this game it's on Howard. Make a FT, loser.

This should make you feel a little better....

Last two minutes of Game 7 of the 1984 NBA Finals: Lakers vs. Celtics

Now THAT was a real NBA Finals. Unlike Orlando in game 4 of the '09 Finals, D.J. and Larry Bird of the Celtics made key free throws during the closing minutes of game 7. This is the Finals that was credited back then for reviving the league and making it a global market.

i agree with you about those finals in those years of the 80s. and the point is that heavy heavy mistakes were not being made by teams. mistakes sure. but unlike recent years and even the 90s. just gigantic mistakes and the other teams capitalized.

back then, it wasnt mistake after mistake. it was big shot after big shot. response to a response. it seemed as if the only thing that lost the game was that simply the time ran out. if there were another 5 minutes put on a game, both teams would keep hitting big time key shots.

thats what i loved about the game and the celtic-laker rivalry of those days. clutch wasnt a momentary thing. clutch was a constant shot being hit over and over again.

for example, when we got one i believe with the babyhook magic shot. and that is the shot that everyone remembers, but freakin bird was a centimeter off from hittin the game winner. and when games are measured in that spectrum of centimeters and inches and the like, it shows the purity of the game. how close those games were. that it wasnt a given, but everything you had may only be good for a slim opportunity with 3 seconds. and bird and magic, those guys were canning those shots and making big plays.

in todays game, its load up and out talent the opponent. orlando is very very talented. and blew by the eastern conference. came out of a lower seed and took down the top 2 seeds. but they were not clutch at all. again, unlike those days, where big plays and big shots were the norm.

[TonyMontana]

Boston can't beat Cleveland on the road. Tell me, were things gonna change if KG were healthy?

You are absolutely right. But at least if the Celtics beat the Magic, the Lakers wouldn't be celebrating right now. Cavs or the Celtics would have wiped their asses with the Lakers. Orlando is pathetic.

WOW Wiped their asses, so classy. so what your saying is that we wiped our asses with the Cs and the Cavs in regular season TWICE both at the Staples and in their house. So both teams smell like Lakers ass till we meet again. Doesnt sound good at all. Does it?

Your post is more of an arrogant fan bashing another team for their success (Magic) than a humble fan excepting a defeat by a better team for whatever reason it maybe that they lost.

[DubaLakers]

Boston can't beat Cleveland on the road. Tell me, were things gonna change if KG were healthy?

You are absolutely right. But at least if the Celtics beat the Magic, the Lakers wouldn't be celebrating right now. Cavs or the Celtics would have wiped their asses with the Lakers. Orlando is pathetic.

WOW Wiped their asses, so classy. so what your saying is that we wiped our asses with the Cs and the Cavs in regular season TWICE both at the Staples and in their house. So both teams smell like Lakers ass till we meet again. Doesnt sound good at all. Does it?

Your post is more of an arrogant fan bashing another team for their success (Magic) than a humble fan excepting a defeat by a better team for whatever reason it maybe that they lost.

Why do guys like Tony and me troll, because there are fans that just don't get it, and will use any chance they get to flame. Boston has an excellent board, with many passionate educated fans, but this particular fan response is hard for me to let go. Cavs and/or the C's wipe the LAL asses in the final? That's just beyond dead wrong on every level, a moronic statement. You guys should punish this member from within for that flame.

I'll just say this, no one the Lakers would have rather faced in the final than the Celtics with a healthy KG. The Lakers kept their promise, the C's received the heavy blow when KG went down, their glue, I wanted him healthy absolutely, I wanted the rematch. The C's nutted up and took on all comers and made it interesting without their best player, I was really impressed with the C's reserves, stepping up, I watched all the C's series'. Glen Davis I thought was a bust, and he proved me a wrong, a 300# that shoots jumpers?!

Then KG goes out and guarantees the next two titles for an aging stars team, not the smartest thing to do, but I'm happy he did it. It adds more fire to the great rivalry.

I hope again it's a 2K10 BOS/LAL final, Lakers with the home court adv. of course. Peace.

[TonyMontana]

Why do guys like Tony and me troll, because there are fans that just don't get it, and will use any chance they get to flame. Boston has an excellent board, with many passionate educated fans, but this particular fan response is hard for me to let go. Cavs and/or the C's wipe the LAL asses in the final? That's just beyond dead wrong on every level, a moronic statement. You guys should punish this member from within for that flame.

DUB, brah........... I dont troll on here or any other board. Im a regular poster who respects everybodies boards and members as they respect me. Also I dont hold one persons actions againsts or accoutable for the entire board since some our members do the same when the time comes. So I dont want to start a pissing match with anybody and be labeled a troll, cause thats not what Im about. He disrespected and I addressed it. Plain and simple, but its done and over with. Lets just leave it at that.

[MyInsatiableOne]

I don't think the Cavs or C's would have necessarily beaten the Lakers...those were easily the 3 best teams in the NBA this year. But either of those teams would have put up a better fight than the Tragic, and could very well have won.

The Tragic were a disgrace and honestly deserved to get swept...I'm only sorry they actually won a Finals game...

[tombattor]

My dear Laker sons,

Chill. I'm just speaking the truth. If you don't want to hear it, then so be it. You are not the first one. But I do believe that if the Celtics played the Lakers with KG, we would have easily beaten them. Why? Because as good as the Lakers have been, the Celtics were clearly the best team in the league until KG went down and we were playing like it. Also, we WIPED OUR ASSES with the Lakers last year, so I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.

Yes, congrats to the Lakers in winning the championship. But you can't deny that the road was paved a bit easier for them this year with Yao going down in middle of the series. The Cavs going down like bitches and Celtics being less than full-strength. Those are all events that made the road easier for the Lakers. As good as Magic has been, their starting PG was out and they were completely overwhelmed by a superior team in the finals. How can you deny that?

But a title is a title and they can't ask to play a tougher opponent, so the Lakers deserved it. I'm just saying that had injury chips fallen differently, I believe the Lakers wouldn't be the ones celebrating.

[TonyMontana]

My dear Laker sons,

Chill. I'm just speaking the truth. If you don't want to hear it, then so be it. You are not the first one. But I do believe that if the Celtics played the Lakers with KG, we would have easily beaten them. Why? Because as good as the Lakers have been, the Celtics were clearly the best team in the league until KG went down and we were playing like it.

Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa your clearly in denial about whos the best team.
"The Lakers were clearly the best team until K.G went down" thats fuuny, according to who YOU?
Cause technically before K.G went down you guys were ranked 2 in the E/C and The Lakers were in first place overall.....

Also, we WIPED OUR ASSES with the Lakers last year, so I have no reason to believe it won't happen again.

That was LAST YEAR when your team got staked with 2 F.H.O.F and we had lost 2 of our keys players due to injury, but if you want to go that route with your childish inuslts of WIPING ASSES, then let me address you as your addressing US. Not only did we WIPE OUR ASSES WITH THE CS TWICE this year, WE ARE THE CHAMPS. I know it hurts you deep down inside but deal with it since we had to do the same when the better team won last years finals, but being CLASSLESS isnt one of them.

Yes, congrats to the Lakers in winning the championship.

Thank you, not that we need your blessings, but we already know we are the CHAMPS.

But you can't deny that the road was paved a bit easier for them this year with Yao going down in middle of the series.

Right, what is there to deny? You mean the team that WE SWEPT just like the Cavs and the Cs in regular season..... and we beat in the second round??? Dont you just love history?

The Cavs going down like bitches and Celtics being less than full-strength. Those are all events that made the road easier for the Lakers.

I love how you just keep discrediting everybody to prove YOUR point. So the Cavs went donw like bitches yet they were favored to win and lost to a better team (Magic), and since you want to be rude and keep on insulting US Im going to pull out the COP OUT CARD on you, with your lame excuse of K.G went down excuse. But again we swept the Cs with K.G in the lineup not once but twice and the second time in your home without Bynum. So NO you cant use that excuse.

As good as Magic has been, their starting PG was out and they were completely overwhelmed by a superior team in the finals. How can you deny that?

Sure were not in denial here WE ARE THE CHAMPS its you thats in denial, and I actually think that after the R Alston trade the Magic actually got better, MUCH BETTER. In fact so much better that not only did they wipe their asses with the Cs they also wipe their asses with the Cavs as well. and lost to the best team in the Finals......... THE LAKERS.

But a title is a title and they can't ask to play a tougher opponent, so the Lakers deserved it. I'm just saying that had injury chips fallen differently, I believe the Lakers wouldn't be the ones celebrating.

You can say the same about our loss last year, so I guess according to you the Cs didnt deserve that championship last year casue the Lakers had major injuries to two of our starters.

Grow up and stop being rude Brah.

[JellosJigglin]

But a title is a title and they can't ask to play a tougher opponent, so the Lakers deserved it. I'm just saying that had injury chips fallen differently, I believe the Lakers wouldn't be the ones celebrating.

You could say that about every championship team in NBA history. If Ariza and Bynum were healthy last year, I believe Celtics wouldn't have been the ones celebrating. See?

If Shaq hadn't hurt his toe and got surgery on company time, I believe the Lakers would've won their 4th championship in a row.

If Byron Scott and Magic hadn't gotten injured in the Finals...yadda yadda yadda....

Kobe played more basketball over the last 2 years than any other professional player on the planet. Staying healthy is a part of the game. Yes you need the talent, and the coaching, and the experience, but there is an element of luck in EVERY championship.