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Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo

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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#21 » by MaxwellSmart » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:51 am

Evans looked like a slower version of Tony Allen......no way I'd do this crap deal.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#22 » by Rocky5000 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:57 am

Evans has handles. Tony Allen with handles could be pretty damn good.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#23 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:57 am

MaxwellSmart wrote:Evans looked like a slower version of Tony Allen......no way I'd do this crap deal.


huh... or not.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#24 » by ddb » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:34 pm

Sorry guys. I didn't mean to get you all excited here (or upset). I DO NOT have an inside source on this one...I've only read what you've all read from Chad Ford, etc.

It's safe to say that Danny Ainge has a love affair over Tyreke Evans and thinks he can be the best player from this draft. It's also safe to say that Ainge is going to be careful about paying Rondo long-term if he feels he can improve the team by trading him.

Rondo to Sac for Tyreke and Thompson would have to include a filler or two. I'm guessing we'd have to take back one of their bad contracts in return for Scals expiring and maybe Tony Allen.

Rondo, T. Allen, Scal to the Kings for Evans, Thompson, and Beno works in trade tracker and makes a lot of sense.

This trade is a real possability if the Rondo situation continues to grow sour. Just a heads up.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#25 » by canman1971 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:40 pm

I don't see any reason the Cs deal Rondo now. They don't have to, so why? Make another title run; Rondo is a RFA next year, and if someone ponies up the cash you match, do a S&T or walk away. No need to blow up the starting 5 now unless you get blown away and a rookie in perhaps the worst draft in NBA history just doesn't cut it.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#26 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:55 pm

I don't think their is a "realtionship" issue it was just a shot to upgrade talent.

My guess is Boston's offer is Rondo/TA/Scal/Giddens for Evans/Hawes or Thompson/Nocioni which work after July 1 when TA's BYC expires.

SAC gets the sure thing in Rondo and unloads the 4 years 20 mil on Nocioni.

Boston moves Rondo who is great but not a headliner for Evans who should be and a young big. Nocioni is a Super Scal and expensive but useful.

I thought this one was going down and maybe it is just on hold till TA clears the BYC but it probably comes down to the fact that it is too much with one of the young bigs in the deal and not enough without. They could include Donte Greene or Sergio but it doesn't excite me.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#27 » by Red2 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:07 pm

stop wasting our time with this BS
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#28 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:12 pm

canman1971 wrote:I don't see any reason the Cs deal Rondo now. They don't have to, so why? Make another title run; Rondo is a RFA next year, and if someone ponies up the cash you match, do a S&T or walk away. No need to blow up the starting 5 now unless you get blown away and a rookie in perhaps the worst draft in NBA history just doesn't cut it.


"The worst draft in history," stuff isn't the way to judge it. It is a bad draft going in because the talent is hard to spot but chances are 3 or 4 great players are going to come out of this draft it is just figuring out who they are.

I don't think the Rondo situation is financial. I think that Rondo's value is at its highest point once Rondo has a 50 mil price tag around his neck he is much less attractive in a trade, it is just the way it is.

Griffin aside Tyreke Evans was the best basketball player I saw in the NCAA last year, often it was against inferior talent but he still destroyed it. Say what you want about Calipari, the man knows talent. I think this kid is better than Rose, now I am not as high on him as many are. But same kind of skill level and just much bigger and stronger. He had too many turnovers but he still had 4 apg which is similiar to Rondo at Kentucky. I think this is the kid your talking about 3 years from now when looking back at this draft, you can't help but think of Dwayne Wade.

It isn't the pick it is the player.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#29 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:16 pm

Red2 wrote:stop wasting our time with this BS


Please, I don't think ddb or myself ambush the board with silly trade ideas. If you don't care about it don't read it that is what I do when someone posts some crap I don't care about yours included.

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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#30 » by ddb » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:28 pm

I'm good either way. If we keep Rondo we'll be in YEAR 3 of the Perk, KG, Pierce, Ray, Rondo Era and there's a pretty good chance they will be better than ever! The ball movement at the begining of last year was amazing before all the injuries started kicking in. The Xmass day loss to LA was the start of the ending for us. In this scenerio Ainge just needs to round out the bench.

OR I'm good if Ainge utilizes Rondo's value and sells him HIGH. As much as I love Rondo I'm fairly certain that he will never be a superstar. He's a very good player. It is what it is. If you told me at the begining of last season that we could get Conley/Gay OR 2 lottery picks (Thompson/Evans) for Rondo I'd do it in a heartbeat. A common mistake by the common fan is thinking you trade players when they're down (Ortiz, Dice-K, etc)....It's the opposite. You sell them high. And I hate to say this, but how do we know that Rondo isn't a product of the Big 3? Is Rondo this good if he's running the point in Memphis??? I doubt it.

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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#31 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:49 pm

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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#32 » by Bluewhale » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:54 pm

In Danny, we trust.

But I would be reluctant to take back bad contracts, that could destroy the next year FA flexibility. Even Rando with 50M price tag, we still have some flexibility.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#33 » by jfs1000d » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:18 pm

Bluewhale wrote:In Danny, we trust.

But I would be reluctant to take back bad contracts, that could destroy the next year FA flexibility. Even Rando with 50M price tag, we still have some flexibility.


If we sign Rondo to a $50 mil deal, it's over for us in free agency. He is not good enough not to take a shot in the FA class next year.

No harm in waiting.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#34 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:27 pm

Bluewhale wrote:In Danny, we trust.

But I would be reluctant to take back bad contracts, that could destroy the next year FA flexibility. Even Rando with 50M price tag, we still have some flexibility.


If you made the move it was because you believe Evans is your guy. Maybe you give Ray another year or something like that you don't deal your starting 23 year old PG for a guy to stash him on the bench.
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Re: Jason Thompson + T Evans for Rondo 

Post#35 » by Bluewhale » Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:41 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
Bluewhale wrote:In Danny, we trust.

But I would be reluctant to take back bad contracts, that could destroy the next year FA flexibility. Even Rando with 50M price tag, we still have some flexibility.


If we sign Rondo to a $50 mil deal, it's over for us in free agency. He is not good enough not to take a shot in the FA class next year.

No harm in waiting.

I agree no harm in waiting, we can wait and give Rondo 50M and still have some flexibility (Up to how much Pierce re-construct, I think the target is 12M). Sorry not put it very clear.

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