Boston is working on a sign-and-trade for Daniels

[Darth Celtic]

scal + gidd and 3million for daniels at 3m per year saves us cash, and keeps them about the same and another young prospect on a team not looking to contend this year. not a lot when u say it, but saving celtics 700k helps use be able to use lle and so forth. but i don't think the main reason for the sign and trade is money.

[campybatman]

Who is this guy? Why is everyone so hyped up about him?

Considering the players left in free agency, and those that are available but are restricted free agents. Daniels arguably is the best available guard/forward still unsigned. I just didn't think he would actually consider signing for the Bi-annual exception ($1.9M; two years). But then, his name wasn't really attached to a lot of rumors, if any at all. That's why this sign-and-trade notion comes as a bit of a surprise. Indiana declined to pickup his $7.5M salary for next season, hence making him an unrestricted free agent.

I don't think fans are outside in the streets celebrating over the prospect of signing him. It has more to do with a feeling of relief that someone worthwhile will possibly sign with Boston who can provide depth behind Pierce and Ray who did play an awful lot of minutes this season.

Paul Pierce - 81 games; 37.5 mpg
Ray Allen - 79 games; 36.4 mpg

[indy_dave00]

The Pacers have a deal for Earl Watson in place as soon as he clears waivers thats been report in an Oklahoma City paper.

Jarrett Jack will be allowed to go to the Raptors without the Pacers matching on him.

The current salary situation for the Pacers is 11 players including Tinsley are signed = 58 million.

Free agent Josh McRoberts will be signed soon along with #2 pick A. J. Price = appox 2mil that puts the Pacers at around 60-61 mil. Add Watson at around 2-3 mil thats 63-64 mil against the luxuary tax of 69 mil.

The Pacers are looking for another sf/sg after signing Dahntey Jones - to me it seems Tony Allen at 2.5 mil fits that role that would put them at 66-67 mil allowing them around 2 to 3 mil to sign a back up center.

I see no way Scalabrine's contract appeals to them with Murphy, Hansbrough , re-signed McRoberts plus Foster at pf.

So it seems the most likely scenerio would be Allen and perhaps Giddens or Walker for Daniels allowing him to make around 4 mil with the Celtics.

Daniels option which the Pacers choice not to pick up was for 7.2 mil , I can't see him settling for less than 3.6 mil and a sign and trade of Allen and a filer would allow him to do that in Boston.

Just my thoughts on the deal. Word here is Daniels trade would not take place for about a week which would coinside with a Watson signing. Tinsley's arbitration hearing is July 25-27 , its assumed the Pacers will be forced to eat most of the remaining 14.7 mil in his contract in a buy out.

[return2glory]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.



I like this signing a lot. Daniels is a good all around player. I just hope we don't give up House for him in any trade.

The reason why Daniels is a good fit for us is because he can play multiple positons. I remember he played some PG when he was in Dallas. Daniles can play PG, SG, and SF. It's like we got 3 player in one for him.

He is a slasher than can score from inside 17 feet. He can alsp handle the ball. Daniels can't shoot the 3 that well, but with the Sheed signing, we have enough Ray, House, Paul, and Wallace that can shoot the 3.

[campybatman]

Well, if there's even a chance that Tinsley could be bought out. Ainge should promptly talk to him and agent, and see where his head's at. He has to be healthy seeing as he didn't play this season, and motived to get his career restarted.

I would offer him the Bi-annual exception. Why wouldn't he want to sign with any of the contending teams? If interested, Boston would get competition from Miami.

[indy_dave00]

A straight Tony Allen for Marquis Daniels deal allows Daniels to re-sign with the Pacers at around 3.3 mil for the 1st year and a 3 year deal at around 11.5 mil total deal that is sent to the Celtics.

Figuring Earl Watson gets around 2.5 mil and a re-signed McRoberts and a signed Price around 2 mil that leaves the Pacers with the vet min. of 1.9 mil to sign a back up vet center and stay under the luxury tax.

You have to figure Tinsley's buy out on his 14.7 mil contract will likely be around 10.5 mil to 12.7 mil. So I could him accepting a 1 year 1.9 mil vet minimum deal which would almost recoup the entire amount he loses on a buy out for the 1st year.

According to reports out of Vegas Tinsley is in good shape after sitting out last season.

Allen, Watson, and Diener plus the vet center signed would give the Pacers almost 9 mil in expiring contracts after the season. Perhaps Price's rookie deal also.

After the 2010-11 season Murphy, Dunleavy, Tinsley, Ford and Foster = almost 45 mil come off the books. McRoberts rumored new 2 year deal will also expire .

Only Granger , Rush, Hibbert, and Hansbrough would be signed for 2011-12 a total of 22 mil in contracts. Plus there 2010 1st rounder whoever that might be.

So if the Pacers sign and trade Daniels or not will have little baring on their cap numbers beyond this season. Unless they get Tony Allen and wish to re-sign him at a reasonable amount.

While the Pacers are in bad shape against the cap right now in 2 years they will have a lot of space to re-sign their own to smaller deals or to sign free agents.

[ParticleMan]

I wouldn't mind trading TA for Daniels. I would mind giving Daniels anything much over 3 mil per tho.

[Cross]

Good looks to everyone on the added info regarding s&t possibilities...much easier than hunting down all the sources on my own.

Every time I stop by I find good info that makes me remember why I should check in more often.

[sox839]

Trading scal and TA for Daniels i think the holdup is were trying to get another player back from the pacers or they want another guy also. If the C's get marquis daniels how about they include travis diener for scal future second rounder for scal, TA, pruitt. Getting daniels as backup to pierce and diener could backup rondo as a point guard for 8 to 10 minutes a game. All needs would be filled sheed as the backup to perk and kg, daniels backing uppierce and diener to backup rondo, resign big baby and then if danny wants to he can sign swift as the third string project work with cliff ray guy.

[cb4_89]

wait i don't really know the situation but didn't you guys sign him for LLE? If he gets signed and traded for scal and allen isn't that like 7 mill going to indy and like 2 going to you?

Also do you guys have any other non black players on your team other than scal?

[eris]

scal + gidd and 3million for daniels at 3m per year saves us cash, and keeps them about the same and another young prospect on a team not looking to contend this year. not a lot when u say it, but saving celtics 700k helps use be able to use lle and so forth. but i don't think the main reason for the sign and trade is money.

I think Danny wants to clear some roster slots, and money is another reason.

Personally, I'd rather see Danny sign Daniels for the LLE and trade Tony and Scal for somebody like Nocioni...or future picks, but maybe he can't get a deal like that.

Oh, and re-sign Baby!

[Kefa461]

Save 1 spot for Powe........

[campybatman]

You have to figure Tinsley's buy out on his 14.7 mil contract will likely be around 10.5 mil to 12.7 mil. So I could him accepting a 1 year 1.9 mil vet minimum deal which would almost recoup the entire amount he loses on a buy out for the 1st year.

According to reports out of Vegas Tinsley is in good shape after sitting out last season.

Sounds good. I think Tinsley becomes the best veteran point guard available if and when he's bought out. I understand that he isn't a good shooter and tends to turn the ball over from what I'd read. Still, he'll be a backup on Boston. The turnovers can be improved but his inability to shoot the ball might become a problem. Boston would need to surround him with shooters, and put him in the best situations whenever he's called in off the bench.