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Post#21 » by Cyclical » Sun Aug 9, 2009 3:15 am

If I was to try and read Danny's mind I'd say a PG backup is more pressing than another 3. Daniels is a 3 - that's why we got him. Days later Pruitt was let go. Logic would tell me that's where Danny's going. I'd be surprised if he didn't. Really it's too early to know anything since we still don't know what we're giving away for Daniels, or whether we're giving away anything at all but If either Giddens or Walker stay we're not getting another 3. We're going to be much thinner at the PG spot.
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Post#22 » by Marqui » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:34 am

Dogen wrote:Where do I sign the petition for the Battier trade? I think Houston could probably get more fot him, at least the other contending teams would be trying to make counteroffers to undermine the Celtics.

What a team though:

Perk
KG
Pierce
Allen
Rondo

Baby
Sheed
Battier
Daniels
House

Bob Swift
Seldom Williams
Bill Walker
Lester Hudson
Jason Williams (not sure about his status yet, but he'd be PG insurance)

That would be an incredible roster
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Post#23 » by TheMartian » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:12 am

I think after signing Davis and Quis the C's will look to add a vet PG - one that is capable of starting in case Rondo goes down with an injury (knock on wood) - before calling it an offseason.
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Post#24 » by sweatdog » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:13 pm

Celtics_85 wrote:Now, if you can some how trade House to sign Daniels we could sign Marbury and maybe Lue as the backup PGs. In this case we could even bring in Bowen if needed. Lets see if Ainge rests after this week.


House exercised his PO to stay in Boston, not to get traded to the team of his non-choice. Hes a fan favorite and fills a huge need off the bench. If you take House out of the equation then you have to keep Sheed on the floor with the second unit constantly to provide an outside shot, unless you stagger Ray or PP in with the 2nd unit for their 3pt shooting, but its not desirable having so few shooters. You cant expect Bowen to do much of anything, even if his shot is falling he will only get spot minutes, and frankly I would take House over Bowen and Marbury all day.

If you think a team can succeed with only 20% of its team capable of hitting 3's (include Scal in that if you want but I am not) and those shooters all being on the downswing of their careers, then you do not watch enough ball.
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Post#25 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:20 pm

I agree with those saying we need a backup PG, we certainly do! And now that Marbs has wackily acted his way out of the league, who would it be? Jason Williams?
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Post#26 » by kmsmith5 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:08 am

Would Boston consider giving up their 1st round pick in 2010 for either CJ Watson or Stephen Jackson? I Don't know what CJ's contract would be, but Jackson could probably be had for expirings (Scal, Allen, Walker), and the 1st.
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Post#27 » by chas0x01 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:40 am

rambo_ortega wrote:so you guys are saying we need a back pg more than a sf? i was under the impression that daniels is a back up pg in most scenarios.


MD will be House's back court partner, but you still need a backup PG incase Rondo goes down. If we need anymore depth at the 3, I think we can pickup a vet min guy like Bowen. But Daniels will be getting 30mpg, some in the back court with House, and some backing up PP.
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Post#28 » by sully00 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:21 pm

The biggest need in relation to the PG spot is someone who can defend quick pgs, if they could score and shoot, that would also be a nice. I think Hudson fits the bill skill wise if he is good enough. I don't know if Lue can stay in front of anyone anymore but he could in the past if he still can he would work. Jason Williams could never stay in front of anyone and that certainly hasn't improved. I think you have to take a look at young guys that have a some experience but have done enough to catch on. In the end someone better than Gabe or just bring back Gabe.
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Post#29 » by theman » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:56 pm

kmsmith5 wrote:Would Boston consider giving up their 1st round pick in 2010 for either CJ Watson or Stephen Jackson? I Don't know what CJ's contract would be, but Jackson could probably be had for expirings (Scal, Allen, Walker), and the 1st.


Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Celtics are not allow to trade there pick until the draft.
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Post#30 » by darrendaye » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:08 pm

sully00 wrote:The biggest need in relation to the PG spot is someone who can defend quick pgs, if they could score and shoot, that would also be a nice. I think Hudson fits the bill skill wise if he is good enough. I don't know if Lue can stay in front of anyone anymore but he could in the past if he still can he would work. Jason Williams could never stay in front of anyone and that certainly hasn't improved. I think you have to take a look at young guys that have a some experience but have done enough to catch on. In the end someone better than Gabe or just bring back Gabe.


I think you nailed it. It's a tough sell with the 58th pick in the draft. I like Hudson. But the concern is what happens if Rondo goes down for an extended period of time. Are the C's willing to depend upon Hudson for long stretches?
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Post#31 » by Celtics_85 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:32 pm

Rondo doesn't even stay in front of quick PGs, so that should be thrown out the door. We play a good team defense and with Sheed coming in it will only get better. In Rondo's defense I have to wunder if he lets PGs go to his side as part of the team defense in order to trap the PG and force the ball out of his hands. If this were the case then a defensive PG isn't as important as one that fits the need of our offense. I think for the first team our PG would just have to bring the ball up and run the offense through one of the other guys, that is, if Rondo were injured.

If Ainge and company truely liked what Hudson did on the defensive end in SL then maybe he gets his shot. He did show great athleticism and had decent handles in SL, and does have a nice shot. With House entering his final year on his contract you have to ask yourself what we will do next year if House isn't brought back. If Ainge likes Hudson shouldn't we just start grooming him now on a three year contract so we don't have to go looking to fill this same need next year? With House, Daniels, and yes, TA, being able to fill the PG slot in emergency situations this might not be a bad idea. If not, bring in Tyron Lue and get to work.

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