Rank the Celtics's "assets"

[sully00]

Not to pee on the parade but this is gaffed, there isn't more than 5 or 6 teams in the NBA that would trade for KG and his contract right now. All of those teams are contenders without the young talent or draft picks to make it interesting.

Almost all would be interested in Ray Allen's expiring contract, many would have an interest in Pierce as he would likely become one once dealt to them.

Rondo and Perk are cheap so teams would certainly have an interest in them.

[Dogen]

Not to pee on the parade but this is gaffed, there isn't more than 5 or 6 teams in the NBA that would trade for KG and his contract right now. All of those teams are contenders without the young talent or draft picks to make it interesting.

Almost all would be interested in Ray Allen's expiring contract, many would have an interest in Pierce as he would likely become one once dealt to them.

Rondo and Perk are cheap so teams would certainly have an interest in them.

Put Willy away, it's just a game.

1. KG
2. Pierce (2)

[UGA Hayes]

Not to pee on the parade but this is gaffed, there isn't more than 5 or 6 teams in the NBA that would trade for KG and his contract right now. All of those teams are contenders without the young talent or draft picks to make it interesting.

Almost all would be interested in Ray Allen's expiring contract, many would have an interest in Pierce as he would likely become one once dealt to them.

Rondo and Perk are cheap so teams would certainly have an interest in them.

Well thats the whole point, if you are going to write your who argument you might as well vote. I will put you down for Ray Allen.

1. KG
2. Pierce (2), Ray Allen/Ray Allen's contract (1)

[bc legends]

1. KG
2. Pierce (3), Ray Allen/Ray Allen's contract (1)

[SonicYouth34]

Perkins

1. KG
2. Pierce (3), Ray Allen/Ray Allen's contract (1)

[greenmachine_2849]

Not to pee on the parade but this is gaffed, there isn't more than 5 or 6 teams in the NBA that would trade for KG and his contract right now. All of those teams are contenders without the young talent or draft picks to make it interesting.

Almost all would be interested in Ray Allen's expiring contract, many would have an interest in Pierce as he would likely become one once dealt to them.

Rondo and Perk are cheap so teams would certainly have an interest in them.

Put Willy away, it's just a game.

1. KG
2. Pierce (2)

It's a good point regardless. I love Garnett, but the fact of the matter is that, in his tenure in Boston, he has played only 52% of the total minutes available to him during the regular season. Over an 82 game season, that averages out to about 25 mpg. Now, its a fantastic 25 minutes of production when he's out there, but that is still barely half the game. At $16.4 million in salary, most teams are going to think long and hard about committing that much money to a player that will require another significant financial investment (like a Rasheed Wallace) to provide quality production during the time Garnett is not on the floor.

I still have to go with Rondo. He is the perfect blend of talent (a lot of people think he could be an all-star next season), upside (a few years away from entering his prime), and affordability (still on his rookie contract).

1. Garnett
2. Pierce (3), Ray Allen (1), Rondo (1)

[Jammer]

I think some of the responders have forgotten what the question is.

The question is not who is better than who. Sully has tried to point this out.

The question is, if the Celtics are talking trade, do other teams want Rajon Rondo for
$2 Million this season; or 32 year old (on October 13) Paul Pierce for $19 Million this year and
$21 million the year after that?

All the Pierce voters are obviously drunk, or will never be an actual owner writing that check. After this year, Garnett's salary DROPS to $16 million and then $18 million in 2012.

Ranking the assets means in what order will these guys fetch a return back.

With Rondo, right off the bat you are looking at $3 million cash and a top 3 pick. A 4 or 5 pick won't get it done.

So, the question isn't "Is Tony Allen better than Justin Ray Giddens?" The question is would teams rather have 24, yes 24 year old Justin Ray, with 4 years to go on his rookie contract, or 27 year old Tony Allen at $2.5 Million in 2010 with Unrestricted Free Agency after that. Most teams would want 24 year old Justin and his 4 more years, with Restricted Free Agency rights.

[UGA Hayes]

I'll put you down for Rondo then Jammer. I would agree with you, except we saw what one package that was apparently acceptable to the Celtics involving Rondo and frankly it was less than what I would have expected. I couldn't help but feel Paul would have gotten us more at this moment. In that vein I think we have a weird mixture in the sense that we have a great shot to win, but if we put our players on the market, their age/contracts would be a problem in getting what we think is fair value.

1. Garnett
2. Pierce (3), Ray Allen (1), Rondo (2)

[theman]

10. 2013 First Round Pick
11. 2011 First Round Pick (Celtics can't trade 2010 First Round Pick until they make the pick)
14. 2010 Second Round Pick (and any future second round picks)
20. Rights to Ben Pepper, Josep Sesar or Albert Miralles

What happened to the 2012 pick? And why is 2013 ranked ahead of 2011?

There is still a chance, small as it is, that Albert Miralles could make it to the NBA. Of course, his 5.5 ppg and 2.9 rpg make that very unlikely.

[lojowo]

1. Kevin Garnett
2. Rajon Rondo
3. Paul Pierce
4. Ray Allen
5. Kendrick Perkins
6. Rasheed Wallace
7. Marquis Daniels
8. Glen Davis
9. Eddie House
10. 2013 First Round Pick
11. 2011 First Round Pick (Celtics can't trade 2010 First Round Pick until they make the pick)

12. J. R. Giddens
13. Tony Allen
14. 2010 Second Round Pick (and any future second round picks)
15. Shelden Williams
16. Billy Walker
17. Brian Scalabrine
18. Rights to Lester Hudson
19. Rights to Semi Erden
20. Rights to Ben Pepper, Josep Sesar or Albert Miralles

Impressive ranking jammer

What happened to the 2012 pick? And why is 2013 ranked ahead of 2011?



What happened to the 2012 pick? And why is 2013 ranked ahead of 2011?

There is still a chance, small as it is, that Albert Miralles could make it to the NBA. Of course, his 5.5 ppg and 2.9 rpg make that very unlikely.

Minnesota owns the 2012 pick. I think 2013 pick being higher is based on our win loss percentage potentially declining in later years do to the current Celtics ages.

[sully00]

We don't anyone any 1st round picks.
http://www.draftexpress.com/transactions.php#1

Jammer is focused on not dealing future picks in consecutive years. We can trade our 2010 pick now if we want to as long we don't deal our 2011. It isn't simply consecutive picks it is dealing "future" consecutive picks. The Suns and Spurs dealt pick after pick in the early part of the decade, some were draft day trades but the rule is simply you can't put your franchise in a situation were you have two future years with no draft picks. It is explained here.

http://infao5501.ag5.mpi-sb.mpg.de:8080 ... .xml&style