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Re: Sheed: 'C's Can Surpass 95-96 Bulls record'.. 

Post#21 » by AlCelticFan » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:33 am

It would be a bad idea to discount Cleveland. I love the Celtics as much as any self-respecting Celtics fan, but they had a tremendous record last season, and this season could be better.
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Post#22 » by bruno sundov » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:37 pm

I say the celts go 97-0. :D
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Post#23 » by TheOGJabroni » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:35 pm

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McGrady2Head wrote:i disagree completely that other teams are stacked like you. First off the Magic got worse in my opinion. Vince Carter is a down grade from hedo. Vince is just like his cousin t-mac, hes not a winner. He will hurt that team. The cavs added shaq, but that is not the shaq of old. If healthy the celtics could have beaten them last year. Plus you just added sheed AND Daniels. The spurs you are correct about. They are going to be tough, and that will be your opponent in the Finals. The winner I have no idea, but its going to be a wonderful battle. Now for the lakers, ron artest was on my fav. team last year, which was the rockets. he is not going to make them better. he doesnt play within the offense, and i doubt he will even be able to understand the triangle. KG will pimp out Gasol again if they play, and pierce on any given night is just as good as Kobe. Bynum is overrated and will get beasted by Perk. As far as the bench, Id take sheed, house, big baby, and daniels over odom. thats all they have. Farmar and vujacic suck. they are talking about not even extending farmars contract. sheed > odom, daniels > walton, house > farmar, Big Baby > whoever there backup big man is


I think you're discounting Ryan Anderson and Brandon Bass contributions. Also I don't see any way that Hedo is better then Vince. In any catergory.

And I'd 100% love to have my last second shot man to be Vince Carter who has so much experience there and has been the man all his seasons, compared to Hedo who simply isn't talented enough to be a true triple threat.

I agree that I don't think Hedo is even close to the talent that is Vince Carter. I used to be as big of a VC fan as there was, but he simply has not shown the desire needed to be great thusfar. Who knows, maybe that will change being in Orlando with an obviously already great team around him. A few years ago, I always thought if Orlando had that stud SG (honestly, thought VC specifically) that could take their team to new levels. But that was when I doubted their team as structured could be as good as they are. Now, seeing how succesful they were. I'm wondering if a Hedo for VC swap, for the most part, was a good idea. They no longer have that great mismatch factor. They have your typical starting five. VC demands the ball a little more than Hedo. I don't know, something about this Magic team just doesn't strike me to be as good as they were last year. But hey, maybe that's just because I have that much confidence in the team Boston has put together. If they stay, healthy I feel that no one is going to stop us.
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Re: Sheed: 'C's Can Surpass 95 Bulls record'.. 

Post#24 » by Hilltop » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:56 pm

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McGrady2Head wrote:i disagree completely that other teams are stacked like you. First off the Magic got worse in my opinion. Vince Carter is a down grade from hedo. Vince is just like his cousin t-mac, hes not a winner. He will hurt that team. The cavs added shaq, but that is not the shaq of old. If healthy the celtics could have beaten them last year. Plus you just added sheed AND Daniels. The spurs you are correct about. They are going to be tough, and that will be your opponent in the Finals. The winner I have no idea, but its going to be a wonderful battle. Now for the lakers, ron artest was on my fav. team last year, which was the rockets. he is not going to make them better. he doesnt play within the offense, and i doubt he will even be able to understand the triangle. KG will pimp out Gasol again if they play, and pierce on any given night is just as good as Kobe. Bynum is overrated and will get beasted by Perk. As far as the bench, Id take sheed, house, big baby, and daniels over odom. thats all they have. Farmar and vujacic suck. they are talking about not even extending farmars contract. sheed > odom, daniels > walton, house > farmar, Big Baby > whoever there backup big man is


I think you're discounting Ryan Anderson and Brandon Bass contributions. Also I don't see any way that Hedo is better then Vince. In any catergory.

And I'd 100% love to have my last second shot man to be Vince Carter who has so much experience there and has been the man all his seasons, compared to Hedo who simply isn't talented enough to be a true triple threat.

Props for being objective.
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Post#25 » by JSABleedsGreen » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:10 pm

Here's what the troll hogs had to say... "Closest to 72 they are going to get is that frontcourt's combined age."

I thought that was pretty funny but nevertheless.....i'd be more concerned about a championship this year than breaking a record.......let's get banner 18 sheed that's what you came here to do.
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Post#26 » by TheOGJabroni » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:13 pm

DubaLakers wrote:Damn' Sheed, really? You guys got a fountain of youth in the Fleet Center I don't know about? The C's best players are 3,14,11,13,14 years into their NBA careers; I guarantee the C's will not get that record.

Possibly make the NBA Ffinals, possibly win the NBA Championship, I can see that, but break that record, no way.

Best record in the East is going to be huge, one of the big three in the East is gonna have to match up with ORL, while the #1 Eastern Team will hav a far easier series. That could be a big factor in determining who has the edge going into the Eastern Conference Finals.

How old were the 95-96 Bulls? Maybe I'm misinformed but I believe they were right up there in age as well. It's all about staying positive even in tough times and most importantly, staying healthy.

Fact is, there IS a reason to go for this record. We don't want Orlando or Cleveland getting it. Why? Not because we have to have every NBA record, but because if they get it, that means one of their squads is the #1 seed in theEast. We should definitely want that. Not saying we can't win the championship as a 2 or even a 3 seed, but it would just be that much easier on us if we are a 1 seed so we don't need to face BOTH the Cavs and Magic in the playoffs. Instead we will only face whoever is victorious in the 2/3 battle and advances in the ECF. Also, we have homecourt advantage, which will all know firsthand is huge in the playoffs.
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Post#27 » by floyd » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:16 pm

I love it. Let Doc worry about pacing and minutes. The players need to worry about playing their best ball. Take no f-ing prisoners. No waiting for the playoffs to turn on the switch crap.
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Post#28 » by JSABleedsGreen » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:28 pm

DubaLakers wrote:Damn' Sheed, really? You guys got a fountain of youth in the Fleet Center I don't know about? The C's best players are 3,14,11,13,14 years into their NBA careers; I guarantee the C's will not get that record.

Possibly make the NBA Ffinals, possibly win the NBA Championship, I can see that, but break that record, no way.

Best record in the East is going to be huge, one of the big three in the East is gonna have to match up with ORL, while the #1 Eastern Team will hav a far easier series. That could be a big factor in determining who has the edge going into the Eastern Conference Finals.


I hear you and your right. The celtics players have mileage but here's the ages for the Bulls team that magical season.

Jordan 32, Pippen 30, Rodman 34, Kerr 30, Harper 32, Wennington 32, Brown 27, Longley 27, Kukoc 27, Dickey Simpkins 23, Buechler 27

Celtics this year

Garnett 33, Pierce 31, Allen 34, Rondo 23, Perkins 24, Wallace 34, Daniels 27, House 31, Scalabrie 31, T Allen 27, Wlaker 21, Giddens 24

That's pretty close, the big difference was MJ and Pippen but I think the combination of Pierce, Garnett and/or Allen off set that. the rest of the team doesn't match up against the Celtics team this year. Now i'm not saying that they will or that they can't. My simple point is that this Celtics bench is better than the bottom 8-10 teams in the league today....which is sad. So those night's when they play the Kings, Grizzlies, Nets, Thunder, Clippers, Timberwolves, Bucks, Bobcats they can get away with playing that second team more and resting the starters and still win games easliy.
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Post#29 » by DubaLakers » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:39 pm

JSA Bleeds Green, thanks for posting that age comparison.


Bos F Celts, you quoted my post and then said the same thing I just quoted like it was yours and new ? At least use footnotes next time, or you'll be sent to the pricipal's office.
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Post#30 » by chakdaddy » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:10 am

JSABleedsGreen wrote:Here's what the troll hogs had to say... "Closest to 72 they are going to get is that frontcourt's combined age."

I thought that was pretty funny but nevertheless......


At first glance the statement is funny but mathematically it's pretty dumb. A frontcourt with a combined age of 72 has a average age of 24. We wish our frontcourt's combined age were closer to 72.
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Post#31 » by chas0x01 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:05 am

As JSA pointed out, age shouldn't be an issue. I think this team could do it, with our additions and being healthy and well conditioned, and the improvement of Rondo, and Perks, and Baby. KG is hyper motivated, and with Sheed, this team is gonna be super amped up. We are sooo deep, we can rest players and still win games. And, of course, more blowouts means more rest. But staying healthy is the key. 18 next year, baby!
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Post#32 » by Anklebreaker702 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:21 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Rasheed Wallace believes that this season's edition of the Celtics could go down in history as the best team ever.

"I think we can get that Bulls record," Wallace told Connecticut News on Friday, referring to the 72-10 mark that Chicago posted during the 1995-96 season


LINK:Wiretap

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Wow..that's saying alot. 72 wins is alot of wins...I like the confidence, but I really don't see it happening..we probably crack 60 again, without any major injuries...but 72?
I just hope the trolls don't turn this into a 'Boston is cocky sports franchise' bullshxt thread...sheesh..lol... :lol:

What do you guys think?

Glad Sheed said it. Everybody acts like it taboo if you mention breaking the all time record. Good job Sheed.
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Post#33 » by Anklebreaker702 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:26 am

celticfan42487 wrote:If the Lakers, Cavs, Magic, and Spurs weren't all sooooo amazingly talented like us. I'd say why not be cocky. As of right now though, in years past this team would of been a clear favorite for repeating titles... all the contenders are just so stacked this year though.

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Post#34 » by Anklebreaker702 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:28 am

McGrady2Head wrote:i disagree completely that other teams are stacked like you. First off the Magic got worse in my opinion. Vince Carter is a down grade from hedo. Vince is just like his cousin t-mac, hes not a winner. He will hurt that team. The cavs added shaq, but that is not the shaq of old. If healthy the celtics could have beaten them last year. Plus you just added sheed AND Daniels. The spurs you are correct about. They are going to be tough, and that will be your opponent in the Finals. The winner I have no idea, but its going to be a wonderful battle. Now for the lakers, ron artest was on my fav. team last year, which was the rockets. he is not going to make them better. he doesnt play within the offense, and i doubt he will even be able to understand the triangle. KG will pimp out Gasol again if they play, and pierce on any given night is just as good as Kobe. Bynum is overrated and will get beasted by Perk. As far as the bench, Id take sheed, house, big baby, and daniels over odom. thats all they have. Farmar and vujacic suck. they are talking about not even extending farmars contract. sheed > odom, daniels > walton, house > farmar, Big Baby > whoever there backup big man is

Keep hatin! Just wonder how much all the teams you discounted will beat yours by? :lol:
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Post#35 » by TheOGJabroni » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:45 am

DubaLakers wrote:JSA Bleeds Green, thanks for posting that age comparison.


Bos F Celts, you quoted my post and then said the same thing I just quoted like it was yours and new ? At least use footnotes next time, or you'll be sent to the pricipal's office.

You alright bud? Do you want credit for my post, add to your post tally or something?
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Post#36 » by Al-Haqq » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:35 am

Another point to add is that the Celtics can get the record if everything goes right and he gases all his starters ... somehow I don't think he's doing that. 64-67 wins.
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Post#37 » by Joe Kleazy » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:50 pm

Looks like sheed is fully taking advantage of the multitude of bars in the boston area. Good for him and his whiskey.
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Post#38 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:16 pm

:lol: I like the mindset, but I don't think they can do it, even with the favorable schedule (longest road trip this season is 5 games, and the toughest back-to-back we have is LAL/POR on February 18 and 19). 72 wins would be sweet, but I'd settle for homecourt advantage through out the playoffs.
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Post#39 » by Hilltop » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:27 pm

Al-Haqq wrote:Another point to add is that the Celtics can get the record if everything goes right and he gases all his starters ... somehow I don't think he's doing that. 64-67 wins.

If everything goes right is a big IF. With all the talent around, it seems like your season would have to go without a hitch for that to be achieved. Either way, it's not that important. Getting fresh legs for your players come Playoff time is a lot more important than forcing the accomplishment of some random milestone. If you win close to as many games as you did last year you should be happy with that already.

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