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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#21 » by threrf23 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:52 am

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The difference is that Jameer Nelson is a great shooter and Mills shoots like his great but isn't. He has the combo guard skills to be enough of a pg to play mins even though he isn't a true pg the problem is that he isn't a good enough shooter to really justify all the shots he squeezes off. I think that Mills could become and NBA player he just isn't, but I also think the Hudson would blow him off the court right now.


Another difference is that Jameer Nelson is 6 and a half years older than Patty Mills. At the same age, looking at conference play (and both guys played in the same conference)...

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player ... rt3=fg_pct

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player ... rt3=fg_pct

As a junior in college (and slightly older than Patty Mills was last season), Jameer Nelson shot 32.4% from 3 on about 6 attempts per game. While Patty Mills only played 6 conference games this past season (and I didn't realize this, it is possible that the relatively small sample size throws things off a slight bit), Mills shot 42.9% on 7 attempts per game. Mills scored 17.3 ppg, Nelson scored 17.1...

Oh...and I'm not saying that I necessarily think Mills would be able to help us this year...but he wouldn't be a cancer and having his rights two-three years down the line could be valuable...
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#22 » by Avalanche » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:05 am

sully00 wrote:threrf33

The difference is that Jameer Nelson is a great shooter and Mills shoots like his great but isn't. He has the combo guard skills to be enough of a pg to play mins even though he isn't a true pg the problem is that he isn't a good enough shooter to really justify all the shots he squeezes off. I think that Mills could become and NBA player he just isn't, but I also think the Hudson would blow him off the court right now.

Pattys basically been the best scorer on whatever team hes been a part of, here in Australia and especially at St Marys the offense just runs through him and he is expected to shoot in high volumes

He has point guard abilities he just needs some nba level coaching, on a team where he doesnt have to force shots just for the team to have an offensive posession his percentages would go up
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#23 » by Ed Pinkney » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:56 am

I would love to see my home town boy play in the Green and if we had an open roster or sport or two then maybe it could happen. At the moment we have a 16 man roster if what you hear about them liking Sweetney is true so it is just very unlikely.

From what I have read about it (which hasn't been a lot to be honest) it seems he will probably go to Europe for a year. I doubt he goes to the development league. The Australian league has become a bit of a joke over the last five to ten years so I hope he goes to Europe and plays at a decent level for a decent paycheck.
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#24 » by sully00 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:52 pm

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sully00 wrote:threrf33

The difference is that Jameer Nelson is a great shooter and Mills shoots like his great but isn't. He has the combo guard skills to be enough of a pg to play mins even though he isn't a true pg the problem is that he isn't a good enough shooter to really justify all the shots he squeezes off. I think that Mills could become and NBA player he just isn't, but I also think the Hudson would blow him off the court right now.


Another difference is that Jameer Nelson is 6 and a half years older than Patty Mills. At the same age, looking at conference play (and both guys played in the same conference)...

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player ... rt3=fg_pct

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player ... rt3=fg_pct

As a junior in college (and slightly older than Patty Mills was last season), Jameer Nelson shot 32.4% from 3 on about 6 attempts per game. While Patty Mills only played 6 conference games this past season (and I didn't realize this, it is possible that the relatively small sample size throws things off a slight bit), Mills shot 42.9% on 7 attempts per game. Mills scored 17.3 ppg, Nelson scored 17.1...

Oh...and I'm not saying that I necessarily think Mills would be able to help us this year...but he wouldn't be a cancer and having his rights two-three years down the line could be valuable...


Your wrong about a couple of things first of all, St. Joe's is in the Atlantic 10 and St Mary's in the WCC, they could be considered similar but they are on the opposite sides of the country.

Jameer Nelson was the best player and leading scorer on a team that went undefeated or lost 1 game with a traditional major college program schedule. You can hack at the numbers however you want Mills does not compare to Nelson at all. The reality is Nelson went back to school and scored 20 a game and shot 39% from 3 and 47% overall and Mills was hurt.

Yeah I would like Mills if he was a 40% 3 pt shooter, but he isn't he is closer to 30. Without the story I don't know that anyone would know who he was.

I see what you are saying about 2 years from now, but the reality is 2 years from he is probably going to be Lester Hudson.
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#25 » by threrf23 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:17 pm

Your wrong about a couple of things first of all, St. Joe's is in the Atlantic 10 and St Mary's in the WCC, they could be considered similar but they are on the opposite sides of the country.


Yeah that's my bad, I was actually confusing St. Joe's with St. Mary's...

Jameer Nelson was the best player and leading scorer on a team that went undefeated or lost 1 game with a traditional major college program schedule.


True but sometimes having good teammates can help your stats too.

The reality is Nelson went back to school and scored 20 a game and shot 39% from 3 and 47% overall and Mills was hurt.


Mills was hurt? He is hurt. He broke his right foot. Nothing knee related or otherwise overly worrisome (to my knowledge). In any event, you know this isn't fair to knock him because he decided to enter the NBA younger than Jameer Nelson was at the start of his senior year, and happened to break his foot.

Yeah I would like Mills if he was a 40% 3 pt shooter, but he isn't he is closer to 30. Without the story I don't know that anyone would know who he was.


But Nelson was around the same % it seems at the same age. A lot of physically undeveloped players don't develop a great three point shot until they hit 21 yrs old or so. Per NBADraft.net, Mills "Possesses a good outside jump-shot as well as NBA range ... Solid mechanics on his shot."

Jameer nelson is listed as 6'0 190. Patrick Mills 6'0 175. The extra 15 comes with a slight bit of age in all likelihood...
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#26 » by ParticleMan » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:09 pm

LMAO @ comparing patty mills to jameer nelson.

and i'm not even a nelson fan.

but the main thing is, nelson was never known as an outside shooter. his game was getting into the lane, and he is athletic and strong enough (despite his size) to finish in college. in the nba he's developed more range. but mills isn't nearly the athlete that nelson is, and will never be able to do what nelson does. all the height/weight comparisons and 3pt shooting % when they were 14 yrs old comparisons are moot.
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#27 » by sully00 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:28 pm

He reminds me nothing at all of Nelson who is at best 5'9" and a bowling ball.

If your telling me in two years this guy is going to be a good back up pg sure no argument. But I don't think he is worth a roster spot right now and developing back up pgs is not either worthwhile or even possible in Boston right now.

I wouldn't be shocked if they waived Hudson 5 mins after Antonio Daniels is available. The thing I like about Lester is that he is 25 years old and we don't have to wait for him to mature mentally and physically which was clearly an issue with Pruitt.
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#28 » by 3pt % » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:47 pm

Is everyone forgetting what Mills did at the Olympics against Team USA? He went straight past Chris Paul like he was standing still, which is no mean feat.

Mills will be in the NBA once he gets healthy.
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Re: Patrick Mills 

Post#29 » by MVE85 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:53 am

Or now, Blazers just signed him.
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Post#30 » by 3pt % » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:57 am

Yep, the Blazers' front office is putting together a pretty good team. They know what they are doing, and they signed Mills.

Even with all of his injuries.

If you don't think Mills is going to be an NBA player, at the least a top grade back up pg, then be prepared to be surprised.
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