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KG's rebounding 

Post#1 » by return2glory » Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:03 pm

KG has been one of the best rebounders in the league. Right now KG is an average rebounder. He isn't going after rebounds. He waits for the ball to come to come off the rim. To me, I'm hoping it's still a conditoning issue. Sure he doesn't have the hops as before, but that is not a reason not to box out.

I hope the Celtics staff watches game tape of KG's rebounding on the defesnive end. We are got a good rebounding team or a great defensive team like we were two years ago. KG had a lot to do with our great defense and rebounding. I feel KG will be playing better in about 3-4 weeks he his conditioning improves. But in the mean time, he should be working on little things like boxing out.
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Re: KG's rebounding 

Post#2 » by OBisHalJordan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:51 pm

We are seeing the twilight years of KG. His rebounding numbers will never be as good as they were in Minnesota and, for that matter, I think it doubtful that they will ever again reach those of his first year in Boston. His last year in Minnesota he averaged nearly 13 rebounds, his first year in Boston it was 9, then 8.5 now 7.3. I think we need to face the possibility that the numbers and performance we are seeing from KG is all he's got left. I am not saying that there is no chance he will return to form but reason alone dictates that he is more likely to continue to slide down than return to 2008-2009 condition, let alone his glory days in 'sota when he was pushing 14 boards a game.
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Re: KG's rebounding 

Post#3 » by Wolves2011 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:03 pm

OBisHalJordan wrote:We are seeing the twilight years of KG. His rebounding numbers will never be as good as they were in Minnesota and, for that matter, I think it doubtful that they will ever again reach those of his first year in Boston. His last year in Minnesota he averaged nearly 13 rebounds, his first year in Boston it was 9, then 8.5 now 7.3. I think we need to face the possibility that the numbers and performance we are seeing from KG is all he's got left. I am not saying that there is no chance he will return to form but reason alone dictates that he is more likely to continue to slide down than return to 2008-2009 condition, let alone his glory days in 'sota when he was pushing 14 boards a game.


The better way to evaluate KG's rebounding is percentage of rebounds he gets while on the floor.

2005 20.3% (peak)
2008 16.8%
2009 16.6%
2010 15.3% ( some of this could be injury and "shape" related) so he might get back into the 16's again.

Most of the drop off in KG's rebounding his second year here was time on the floor.
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Re: KG's rebounding 

Post#4 » by return2glory » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:00 pm

I'm talking about fundamentals. Boxing out. KG was a great rebounder because of his height, long arms, and jumping ability. His hops are leaving him and other players are out jumping him for rebounds. Rebounding isn't about jumping, its about desire and positoning.

Larry Bird and Bill Lambeer were not jumpers, but they were great rebounders because they could box out oppenents and establish position. If anyone notices, KG hardly boxes out. Oppenents comes over his back and out jump him and get rebounds.
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Re: KG's rebounding 

Post#5 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:00 pm

return2glory wrote:
Larry Bird and Bill Lambeer were not jumpers, but they were great rebounders because they could box out oppenents and establish position.


Reminds me of when I was a kid working on my vertical leap. My dad kept laughing at me and told me to work on my jumpshot instead. I told him I needed to jump higher so I could grab more boards, and just be more effective overall. Of course, my dad said "You already jump higher than Larry Bird, and he seems to be doing quite well with rebounding".

Now that I'm in my 30s, with a gut full of beer and hours of playing Xbox under my belt, I must say, in terms of effectiveness: boxing out >>> vertical leap.
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Re: KG's rebounding 

Post#6 » by return2glory » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:54 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Larry Bird and Bill Lambeer were not jumpers, but they were great rebounders because they could box out oppenents and establish position.


Reminds me of when I was a kid working on my vertical leap. My dad kept laughing at me and told me to work on my jumpshot instead. I told him I needed to jump higher so I could grab more boards, and just be more effective overall. Of course, my dad said "You already jump higher than Larry Bird, and he seems to be doing quite well with rebounding".

Now that I'm in my 30s, with a gut full of beer and hours of playing Xbox under my belt, I must say, in terms of effectiveness: boxing out >>> vertical leap.


LOL. That's great stuff. Yup, boxing out is a key as a rebounder. If vertical leap was the only thing that mattered in rebounding, Gerald Green would have been a great rebounder.

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