Why not R. Allen + Wallace for Iggy and Brand?

[ddb]

Straight up Ray Allen and Rasheed to Philly for Iggy and Brand. The deal works in trade tracker and makes alot of sense for both teams.

Why Celtics do it: Rasheed isn't working out. Send him home to Philly to wrap up his career. The fans will love him. Sure his contract is ideal but it's for a lot less money then what's remaining on Brands contract. Brand gives the C's insurance in case Garnett goes down. He also gives us a post-player which is what we were hoping for with Wallace.
Ray Allen is getting old and we need to take advantage of his expiring deal to bring back a younger player who will help us compete this year and beyond. That player is Iggy.

Why Philly does it: Bottom line is they get rid of the Brand deal. Not only do they get a quality pro in Ray Allen, but they bring back a hometown player in Wallace who has a much smaller contract then Brand. Iverson and Wallace on the same team would be good for their gate as well.

Thoughts? Makes a lot of sense for both teams.

[Celts17Pride]

That's a heck of alot better then Ray for Kevin Martin. Sign me up. Brand is a low post player so the 2nd unit wouldn't be all jump shots. I still say keep the starters and add a bench player or two but if the Celtics traded Ray Allen I could be for this trade.

Ray Allen for Kevin Martin is garbage.

[klemen4]

Elton Brand
$14,858,471
$15,959,099
$17,059,726
$18,160,354 2012/13

Andre Iguodala
$12,200,000
$12,345,250
$13,531,750
$14,718,250
$15,904,750 2013/14



Look at those Brand number If his contract would be till 2012 when also KG,Wallace expire you could give idea a though, but his contract till 2013....

[darrendaye]

Exactly, Klemen. While we debate possible trades, it's important to remember what was said to be Ainge's goal, a younger SG and a large expiring contract. They are not very likely to add $20mm to next season's payroll, much less the numbers that extend beyond. The Celts have 7 players under contract for $63mm in 2010/11. This year's number was around $85mm and more likely to be reduced than to remain constant.

[ddb]

good point on the contracts fellas.

Although, a good deal for this year and next year, it would probably kill us in 12 and 13'

[wbc17]

Thought about this deal. Though I wish Brand is capable to play like the way he did in Clippers pre-injury. Maybe he'll play with heart again alongside KG.

If we do the deal, anyone know how much money we have left to sign free agents this offseason?

[vct33]

If we do the deal, anyone know how much money we have left to sign free agents this offseason?

No matter what we do, all we can do is sign an MLE player in the offseason.

[Bluewhale]

At this stage of career, it's hard to argue Brand > Delmbert.

[Tricky Ricky]

Brand or Perk
KG
Iggy
PP
Rondo

would be interesting but would it really improve us? It would kill us cap wise for when PP/KG/Sheed are off the books

[Kefa461]

Straight up Ray Allen and Rasheed to Philly for Iggy and Brand. The deal works in trade tracker and makes alot of sense for both teams.

Why Celtics do it: Rasheed isn't working out. Send him home to Philly to wrap up his career. The fans will love him. Sure his contract is ideal but it's for a lot less money then what's remaining on Brands contract. Brand gives the C's insurance in case Garnett goes down. He also gives us a post-player which is what we were hoping for with Wallace.
Ray Allen is getting old and we need to take advantage of his expiring deal to bring back a younger player who will help us compete this year and beyond. That player is Iggy.

Why Philly does it: Bottom line is they get rid of the Brand deal. Not only do they get a quality pro in Ray Allen, but they bring back a hometown player in Wallace who has a much smaller contract then Brand. Iverson and Wallace on the same team would be good for their gate as well.

Thoughts? Makes a lot of sense for both teams.

My thoughts........they are I always listen to your trade ideas........

[meatball sub]

LOL @ trading for Brand only to have him come off the bench while paying him the third most money on the team.

[Celtics_85]

As Darrendaye said earlier in this post of what Ainge was looking for in a trade of Allen I came up with a deal that puts rumors into account for my idea.

Boston gets Iggy, Thomas expiring deal, Armstrong, and Sacto 1st- giving up Ray and Davis

Philly gets Ray and Davis- giving up Iggy and Dalembert

Sacto gets Dalembert- giving up Kenny Thomas expiring, Armstrong, and a 1st

I know Sacto had some interest in Dalembert and were looking to get rid of Thomas's deal to do it so this may make sense for them.
Philly is getting rid of Dalembert and Iggy who they have been shopping and get Ray and his 20 million off the books and a servicable Davis in return. If they would take Williams instead of Davis I would send them the first rounder and replace him with Armstrong for the rest of the year.

We get what Ainge is looking for in a trade for Ray with Iggy being the player and Thomas and Armstrong comming off the books.

[Banks2Pierce]

Brand is the second worst contract in the NBA and will turn into the worst if Arenas is cleared off the books of Washington.

[GreenDreamer]

Brand is not a good fit here and has a terrible contract. Simply awful.

[Perk Is Beast]

omfg i would do this in a second
Ray Allen and Sheed are hurting our team. I would much rather start TA than Ray. we lost against LA because Doc put Ray back in in the 2nd half.

[Slartibartfast]

Brand is not a good fit here and has a terrible contract. Simply awful.

Amen. We'd have 50% of the salary cap tied up in two past their prime PFs with lingering injury concerns.

I love Iggy, but not that much.

Brand is what Kenyon Martin has been for the past several years: untradable.

[irie]

This would make us a perennial first round exits starting in 2012 until Brand's contract is up.

[theman]

As Darrendaye said earlier in this post of what Ainge was looking for in a trade of Allen I came up with a deal that puts rumors into account for my idea.

Boston gets Iggy, Thomas expiring deal, Armstrong, and Sacto 1st- giving up Ray and Davis

Philly gets Ray and Davis- giving up Iggy and Dalembert

Sacto gets Dalembert- giving up Kenny Thomas expiring, Armstrong, and a 1st

I know Sacto had some interest in Dalembert and were looking to get rid of Thomas's deal to do it so this may make sense for them.
Philly is getting rid of Dalembert and Iggy who they have been shopping and get Ray and his 20 million off the books and a servicable Davis in return. If they would take Williams instead of Davis I would send them the first rounder and replace him with Armstrong for the rest of the year.

We get what Ainge is looking for in a trade for Ray with Iggy being the player and Thomas and Armstrong comming off the books.

I like that a lot but I can't see Sacramento giving up a first to get a Delembert especially when they have Hawes. Take out the pick the Sac. might do it.

Keep in mind half of the Phili fans wouldn't trade Jason Kapono to Boston for Rajon Rondo. That doesn't mean the GMs wouldn't deal with each other.

Maybe this could happen if Boston sent a first to Phili.

[avi623]

Has Philly indicated that they are willing to give up their best player to a team in their own division? Look, I am well aware the 76ers want to save money, but look at the rumored Iggy deals. I don't hear him being rumored to New York, NJ, or Toronto. There is a reason: teams usually do not trade their best player to a team in their own division, let alone the division leader.

This is before we get to the problem of where Iggy fits on this team. Yeah he is a great defender and a do it all player. But his shooting, alongside Rondo's awful shooting, would be toxic.