Gordon Hayward's Recovery Thread

[Wee Bay]

People shluld be in the acceptance phase by now.

Hayward playing this season is irrelevant at this point. How guys like Tatum and brown look like when he comes back and apparnetly rozier are my priority.

Boston is a 33 win team this season. Even if Hayward were healthy enough to return, it wouldn't be a for playoff run. So there's really no point.

You name the terms of the bet..I'll take it

[Edug27]

From the way they played first two games lotter team. Its just two games but Kyrie is no IT not even close so far.

You can learn a lot from just 2 games.

I'm suspecting Kyrie gets shelved with a mysterious injury after all star break. Same with Horford. Let the young dudes play 35 minutes a game en route to a high lottery pick. Trade Smart before the deadline for something of value.

I think this would be detrimental to what is ur focus now, make stras out of Jaylen and Jason. Putting them on the field with a bunch of role players/young guys will strongly linit their potential.

KD would disagree. He said putting young guys out there with no pressure to win and make mistakes is the best way to grow and learn your game.

[Edug27]

From the way they played first two games lotter team. Its just two games but Kyrie is no IT not even close so far.

You can learn a lot from just 2 games.

I'm suspecting Kyrie gets shelved with a mysterious injury after all star break. Same with Horford. Let the young dudes play 35 minutes a game en route to a high lottery pick. Trade Smart before the deadline for something of value.

It’s two games and the Celtics are a lottery team now despite almost winning both...

Correct. This roster is one that'll fight for the 8 seed.

[Edug27]

People shluld be in the acceptance phase by now.

Hayward playing this season is irrelevant at this point. How guys like Tatum and brown look like when he comes back and apparnetly rozier are my priority.

Boston is a 33 win team this season. Even if Hayward were healthy enough to return, it wouldn't be a for playoff run. So there's really no point.

You name the terms of the bet..I'll take it

Not much of a betting man.. I prefer the old fashioned I told you so.

[Jingles]

Yeah why didn't they fix any problems from game 1 during all that practice time they had before game 2 to adjust to losing their best player?

[ermocrate]

You can learn a lot from just 2 games.

I'm suspecting Kyrie gets shelved with a mysterious injury after all star break. Same with Horford. Let the young dudes play 35 minutes a game en route to a high lottery pick. Trade Smart before the deadline for something of value.

I think this would be detrimental to what is ur focus now, make stras out of Jaylen and Jason. Putting them on the field with a bunch of role players/young guys will strongly linit their potential.

KD would disagree. He said putting young guys out there with no pressure to win and make mistakes is the best way to grow and learn your game.

Yeah but we won’t have an experienced star to lead the way and correct their flaws. Today nobody has expectations on the Celtics so they should be fine

[prov1ml]

Like someone said a few pages back, the true measure of whether or not he will return this season is if the team applies for the disabled player exception. If they do, they are planning that he's out for the season, if they don't then they might be expecting a return.

Regardless, an agent isn't going throw a timeline out there for his return immediately after surgery. That would inevitably 1) put pressure on Gordon to try to meet those expectations and 2) make the team have to answer questions about his availability for the next 3-4 months.

[Edug27]

I think this would be detrimental to what is ur focus now, make stras out of Jaylen and Jason. Putting them on the field with a bunch of role players/young guys will strongly linit their potential.

KD would disagree. He said putting young guys out there with no pressure to win and make mistakes is the best way to grow and learn your game.

Yeah but we won’t have an experienced star to lead the way and correct their flaws. Today nobody has expectations on the Celtics so they should be fine

You're assuming you need an experienced star... I disagree.

[sam_I_am]

It was pretty awesome at game last night to see Hayward talk to fans from his hospital bed and encourage the team.

[ermocrate]

KD would disagree. He said putting young guys out there with no pressure to win and make mistakes is the best way to grow and learn your game.

Yeah but we won’t have an experienced star to lead the way and correct their flaws. Today nobody has expectations on the Celtics so they should be fine

You're assuming you need an experienced star... I disagree.

Well, the example is what is more important for youngs growing up, it's very hard for a kid to succeed otherwise even with a great coach, they need to be challenged continuosly and be pushed.When the star presence is not invasive it only helps.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Like someone said a few pages back, the true measure of whether or not he will return this season is if the team applies for the disabled player exception. If they do, they are planning that he's out for the season, if they don't then they might be expecting a return.
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I view it the other way - if they say Gordon can return before the season ends, then they might not get the disabled player exception. Why wouldn't you want an extra $8.4 million to use as an asset? There is no penalty if Hayward returns early either.

I think they'll say he's out for the season for 2 reasons:
1) They don't want to rush Hayward back
2) they get an asset in the exception

[robdog_5]

I'm thinking we will win around 38-42 games and be a 6 or 7 seed. Win 1 or 2 games vs Toronto or Wizards. If we play Cavs we will get swept and IT will score 40 in one game. It's not going to be a great year.

But Jaylen and Tatum will get ton of good mins. Rozier and Smart also will get a chance to carry larger role. So in essence guys will hopefully add the value we've always thought they had as Celtics fans and prove to be huge parts of the future or could also become greater assets.

Some positive to gain, also Boston will have a much better pick of their own.

I thought we had a shot if all the pieces meshed well to beat Cavs but now it's the long game which is most important and that was the main crux of the trade anyways. To build long term flexibility and an elite team for long hual

[ConstableGeneva]

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[FlatearthZorro]

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I guess Brad confirmed that there were no ligaments torn? If true Hayward would have a much easier time getting back to his old self.

[CavemanDoctor]

Did Brad confirm no ligaments torn? All I saw was some random reporter on Twitter say that.

Would like an actual confirmation.

[ddb]

trade for Marco Belinelli. 1 year rental to help fill the void left by the injured Gordon Hayward. Marco is in no way, shape or form Gordon Hayward, but he could surprisingly duplicate SOME of the portion of the playbook that was created for Hayward. Also, Marco is fearless. He can shoot, score, handle and play when it matters. He is a veteran that could either start or come off the bench depending on match-ups.
I year left on his deal. If we get the injury hardship exception the Celtics need to send a couple minor assets to a rebuilding Atlanta team in exchange for the veteran Belinelli.

[ConstableGeneva]

Did Brad confirm no ligaments torn? All I saw was some random reporter on Twitter say that.

Would like an actual confirmation.

From the Herald article:
"A major reason for that optimism, as Bartelstein told the Herald Wednesday night, was that tests revealed a so-called clean break, with a minimum of other damage to Hayward’s leg.

Hayward and his family were further encouraged after surgery, when doctors failed to discover any surprises or further complications."

[CavemanDoctor]

Did Brad confirm no ligaments torn? All I saw was some random reporter on Twitter say that.

Would like an actual confirmation.

From the Herald article:
"A major reason for that optimism, as Bartelstein told the Herald Wednesday night, was that tests revealed a so-called clean break, with a minimum of other damage to Hayward’s leg.

Hayward and his family were further encouraged after surgery, when doctors failed to discover any surprises or further complications."

Good news, obviously. I'd still like someone to come out and definitively say "No ligament damage whatsoever." I've been bitten by the cryptic "minimum of other damage" talk before.

[OFWGKTA]

Did Brad confirm no ligaments torn? All I saw was some random reporter on Twitter say that.

Would like an actual confirmation.

From the Herald article:
"A major reason for that optimism, as Bartelstein told the Herald Wednesday night, was that tests revealed a so-called clean break, with a minimum of other damage to Hayward’s leg.

Hayward and his family were further encouraged after surgery, when doctors failed to discover any surprises or further complications."

Good news, obviously. I'd still like someone to come out and definitively say "No ligament damage whatsoever." I've been bitten by the cryptic "minimum of other damage" talk before.

There was probably some stretching of ligaments by default, but "minimum" probably means it should heal within the same time frame as the bones.

[chrisab123]

You can learn a lot from just 2 games.

I'm suspecting Kyrie gets shelved with a mysterious injury after all star break. Same with Horford. Let the young dudes play 35 minutes a game en route to a high lottery pick. Trade Smart before the deadline for something of value.

It’s two games and the Celtics are a lottery team now despite almost winning both...

Correct. This roster is one that'll fight for the 8 seed.

Strongly disagree. In the West yes. But the East is a joke. They couldn't tank even if they wanted to. Kyrie is a superstar and Brown and Tatum look really mature. Al is still pretty good.