Celtics Offseason General Thread, 2018

mikestar · Post #161 » by **mikestar** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:24 pm

Parliament10 wrote:

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A lot of Guards, and Wings coming through there.

We could use a Bruce Bowen. Wait, what...

Post #162 » by **Parliament10** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:29 pm

Shane Larkin, on his way out?

KGboss · Post #163 » by **KGboss** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:45 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Shane Larkin, on his way out?

Insurance in case smart and larkin leave possibly

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leper-con · Post #164 » by **leper-con** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:01 pm

Something is going down this off season for sure.
We are bringing back two guards for second workouts. We are connected to a guard from overseas.
Someone is getting moved. SAy good bye to smart or Terry.

Post #165 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:35 am

Celtics Odds Climbing.

https://infogram.com/2019-nba-title-1hdw2je07wex4l0

Kefa461 · Post #166 » by **Kefa461** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:57 am

https://nesn.com/2018/06/gordon-hayward-injury-celtics-forward-expected-to-be-cleared-by-mid-august/

8-)

colaroaster · Post #167 » by **colaroaster** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:06 am

we all agree both gordon and kyrie will start, play back-backs, and make it back 100%??
no to all 3.. at least not until xmass break

batabatuta · Post #168 » by **batabatuta** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:57 am

Jamal Crawford declined his player option. We sure could use a vet like him on the second unit

KumaJG · Post #169 » by **KumaJG** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:08 am

batabatuta wrote:Jamal Crawford declined his player option. We sure could use a vet like him on the second unit

no hes terrible.

Parliament10 wrote:Celtics Odds Climbing.

https://infogram.com/2019-nba-title-1hdw2je07wex4l0

Warriors going to be favorite for the next few years.They're just too good.

CeltsfaninDC · Post #170 » by **CeltsfaninDC** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:11 am

Whenever you think Danny blew a draft or botched a trade I want you to remember this:

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ZeroTolerance · Post #171 » by **ZeroTolerance** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:08 am

leper-con wrote:Something is going down this off season for sure.
We are bringing back two guards for second workouts. We are connected to a guard from overseas.
Someone is getting moved. SAy good bye to smart or Terry.

or Kyrie....

Tyakack · Post #172 » by **Tyakack** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:16 am

colaroaster wrote:we all agree both gordon and kyrie will start, play back-backs, and make it back 100%??
no to all 3.. at least not until xmass break

And you're basing this off what exactly? Absolutely nothing?

bucknersrevenge · Post #173 » by **bucknersrevenge** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:00 pm

Valid wrote:
Big Joke Line wrote:
Valid wrote:Smart is the most destructive perimeter defender in the league not named Kawhi Leonard, is a very good passer, has very impressive floor vision, possesses a decent post game, can get to the free-throw line and crashes the glass well. In addition, he had a plus-5 net rating this season. He brings much more than just grit.

I feel like most of what you describe here falls under grit. I honestly hope we never see him take 10+ shots a game for the Celtics. And it’s proven at this point if he’s out there he’s getting his shots.

Passing, floor vision, elite defense, a post game and an incredibly positive overall impact on the team's performance falls under "grit?" He is a gritty player with skill; there is a difference between that and a player who is solely "gritty." A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square.

Hitching my wagon right behind this guy. Elite defense at MULTIPLE positions is a SKILL. And it's not one you just get to disregard because he shot 30% from 3. It's easy to get caught up in the counting stats that are flashy but he's also maybe the most intuive passer on the roster. In a PnR league, he's excellent in the PnR. With Kyrie out, Marcus was on the way to leading the team in assists during the regular season when his own injury derailed him. He makes plays despite his shooting inefficiencies. Against Cleveland, as the series wore on we continually had to sub out Rozier because of the 1-4 PnR mismatch that would leave Terry stuck on Jeff Green or Lebron whereas Smart was bigger and stronger and they could exploit that matchup less often with him on the floor. And bottomline, in the playoffs against the best teams, I just value Marcus' innate ability to see the play on defense before it happens and be the first to rotate over for the charge, the block or the steal. And here's one last important thing as it regards to paying him:

Currently our contracts right now or mostly max deals and mostly rookie salary. We have no mid-level salaries on the team that we can use to match up for trades later. We have nothing in the 10-15 million range as a trading slot. Marcus isn't gonna get much on the open market I don't think just because most teams don't have much money, backup PG is a HUGE depth spot in the league right now, and most teams I think know we will match anything reasonable so I don't think he's going to get a lot of offers. I'd match as high as 3/39 and then that last year he becomes a tradeable asset if needed.

cloverleaf · Post #174 » by **cloverleaf** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:24 pm

ZeroTolerance wrote:
leper-con wrote:Something is going down this off season for sure.
We are bringing back two guards for second workouts. We are connected to a guard from overseas.
Someone is getting moved. SAy good bye to smart or Terry.

or Kyrie....

Bingo.

Valid · Post #175 » by **Valid** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:17 pm

ZeroTolerance wrote:
leper-con wrote:Something is going down this off season for sure.
We are bringing back two guards for second workouts. We are connected to a guard from overseas.
Someone is getting moved. SAy good bye to smart or Terry.

or Kyrie....

Or Larkin?

Let's stop with the Kyrie stuff. He isn't the type of player the Celtics would be looking to replace with a late first-round draft pick or guys from Europe.

Edug27 · Post #176 » by **Edug27** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:18 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
ZeroTolerance wrote:
leper-con wrote:Something is going down this off season for sure.
We are bringing back two guards for second workouts. We are connected to a guard from overseas.
Someone is getting moved. SAy good bye to smart or Terry.

or Kyrie....

Bingo.

Not a chance.

Valid · Post #177 » by **Valid** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:21 pm

Edug27 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
ZeroTolerance wrote:
or Kyrie....

Bingo.

Not a chance.

We just agreed again.

What the hell is going on here dude?

colaroaster · Post #178 » by **colaroaster** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:55 pm

Tyakack wrote:
colaroaster wrote:we all agree both gordon and kyrie will start, play back-backs, and make it back 100%??
no to all 3.. at least not until xmass break

And you're basing this off what exactly? Absolutely nothing?

no one expects set-backs or thinks practical about these players conditioning.. they're not in "nba shape" and they're not fully recovered

Post #179 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:01 pm

colaroaster wrote:
Tyakack wrote:
colaroaster wrote:we all agree both gordon and kyrie will start, play back-backs, and make it back 100%??
no to all 3.. at least not until xmass break

And you're basing this off what exactly? Absolutely nothing?

no one expects set-backs or thinks practical about these players conditioning.. they're not in "nba shape" and they're not fully recovered

Yeah, but it's June.
They have 4 more months, to fully recover.

Post #180 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:08 pm

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Will Danny Ainge Stand Pat (As he's Done Before) in Summer of 2018?