sam_I_am wrote: MagicBagley18 wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:From a business perspective he has every right in the world to go get that cash regardless of who it comes from, but we easily could have given up on him and nobody would have batted an eye. Hopefully there's a happy medium where we don't completely **** our cap and have a chance to keep him.
Yea for him someone who has seen what a devastating injury can do to you personally and on the court- it only makes sense for him to secure the bag. If he plays at all star level or close to all star level, a team will throw money at him and all it takes is one lousy team to over pay someone.
His 1st 2 seasons in Boston have been nightmares let’s face it, horrible injury and then just an unhappy dysfunctional & underachieving 2nd year, so hopefully this off season spending ithere and then hopefully having a great year for himself and for the team plus our loyalty we’ve shown him- he’ll remember that when it comes to negotiating but I don’t think so.
Way too early to discuss but can’t give him 40 mill max
The reason it’s not too early is that you can’t wait until June to find out he is gone. If we lose him and his max salary slot, the team is kind of screwed and will only be able to get better via rebuild or trade. He may not get a max salary offer, but he is having a career season ( the caveat: small sample size, inflated stats based on 1 great game ).
His last year in Utah he averaged 22 pts, 16 FGA, 44%/39%/84%, 5 reb., 3 asst as first option.
This year so far he has 20 ppg, 14 FGA, 55%/50%/83%, 7.5 reb, 4 asst as third option.
The odds are pretty good that he will be the premier free agent this off season. Kemba Walker just got a max at 29. Gordon will be 30 which for a 6-7 player is equivalent to 27 for a 6-1 guard. His injury is fully healed and is not a long term risk or career shortening like a knee injury.
If he opts out, somebody will give him the max. If you know Boston shouldn’t....then Ainge has to explore trading him now. Even if you want to give him the max....Ainge can’t really get a meaningful commitment now so has to aggressively explore all options.
Sam is totally right. The one thing that may save us from a Horford situation is Hayward's relationship with Brad. It's fine if Hayward wants to get paid more than we want to pay. And it's also fine to trade him. What we can't have happen is a surprise. We will have to max Tatum and then we don't have any money to attact a top free agent for the forseeable future. So our options are:
1. Hayward doesn't opt out. kick the can for a year, same problem next year. Probably not smart for Hayward.
2. Hayward agrees to an extention or a wink wink deal to opt out and sign a new contract with us.
3. We trade him now.
4. He **** us over by saying he will stay and then leaves. Then we have all our money tied up in Tatum, Brown Smart and Walker and are probbly not good enough to compete, so we have to think hard about trading Walker for someone on a rookie contract as a last ditch option to have money to find another max guy. Low odds it all works out and we are looking at a rebuild unless Tatum turns into Kobe.
So yeah, unless Brad and Gordon want to be BFFs and come to some kind of fair deal, we should trade him. Sadly.