2021-2022 Trade Thread: Will the Celtics make a Smart move?
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2021-2022 Trade Thread: Will the Celtics make a Smart move?
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2021-2022 Trade Thread: Will the Celtics make a Smart move?
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My final sticky post; I think anyway. Trade away.
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I think it's the best option we've got. We need a shake up and change things that are not working anymore. Smart way of playing is really great sometimes, but many other times isn't. I loved his time here, but I think this time is over.
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Was in response to this, I’m sure.
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Brad not even waiting for the season to end before trading away everyone he hates.
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Was in response to this, I’m sure.
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Disappointing.
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Would we be willing to hard cap ourselves next year for a couple years of Kyle Lowry which could then transition nicely into Beal free agency? Smart + TT and fillers? Not sure if even possible.
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Tbh,I'd really like to see what Smart can do under a new head coach who will, hopefully, reign him in. An EFFICIENT Marcus Smart is a keeper. If he's going to continue being the same guy, I'm all about seeing him go. Prob is, that leaves us with jack squat at PG..
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GoGreen wrote:Tbh,I'd really like to see what Smart can do under a new head coach who will, hopefully, reign him in. An EFFICIENT Marcus Smart is a keeper. If he's going to continue being the same guy, I'm all about seeing him go. Prob is, that leaves us with jack squat at PG..
1) Agreed that perhaps a new coach could reign him in and get him to be more efficient. Agreed that a more efficient Smart who picks his spots with when to take shots (just occasionally posting up smaller guards, occasional floaters in the lane and occasional 3's if he's open and if it's in the flow of the offense, nothing more, nothing less) then yeah, he could be awesome. I mean, he is only 27 so still very much in his prime.
2) If Smart is traded, yes it does leave us shorthanded at PG but I assume Brad would either acquire a PG in that same trade or land a PG via trade/free agency right away..
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Amy idea whats the weather like over in san antonio ?
Dejunta Murray is a good contract and maybe we can entice the Spurs with picks plus tristan plus neismith ?
That’d give us a PG we so need, cost controlled plus it removes the clutter at the C position. Watched him play a bit this year he looked like a solid PG. Or am
I just delusional here
Dejunta Murray is a good contract and maybe we can entice the Spurs with picks plus tristan plus neismith ?
That’d give us a PG we so need, cost controlled plus it removes the clutter at the C position. Watched him play a bit this year he looked like a solid PG. Or am
I just delusional here
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Was in response to this, I’m sure.
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I wonder if Stevens might parlay Fournier and TT into Kyle Lowry (two years with the third year nonguaranteed). They could do this and still be under the apron if Lowry doesn't want too much money. I don't know what Philly or other teams are offering, but obviously Toronto would rather not lose him for nothing.
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Curmudgeon wrote:I wonder if Stevens might parlay Fournier and TT into Kyle Lowry (two years with the third year nonguaranteed). They could do this and still be under the apron if Lowry doesn't want too much money. I don't know what Philly or other teams are offering, but obviously Toronto would rather not lose him for nothing.
I believe we cannot sign and trade anybody due to cap.
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sam_I_am wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:I wonder if Stevens might parlay Fournier and TT into Kyle Lowry (two years with the third year nonguaranteed). They could do this and still be under the apron if Lowry doesn't want too much money. I don't know what Philly or other teams are offering, but obviously Toronto would rather not lose him for nothing.
I believe we cannot sign and trade anybody due to cap.
Is that right? I don't think so.
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Curmudgeon wrote:sam_I_am wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:I wonder if Stevens might parlay Fournier and TT into Kyle Lowry (two years with the third year nonguaranteed). They could do this and still be under the apron if Lowry doesn't want too much money. I don't know what Philly or other teams are offering, but obviously Toronto would rather not lose him for nothing.
I believe we cannot sign and trade anybody due to cap.
Is that right? I don't think so.
We just have to stay under the apron if we accept an S&T. With Horf instead of Kemba, TT, no Fournier and Parker picked up, we're ~$10M under it. So, it could get tight getting Lowry and 2 vet mins into $20M.
EDIT: Assuming the cap/tax/apron stay the same as last year. I'm not sure if that's true or not, or even been decided yet.
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The “Smart” move would be to sign
Maaaaaahhhhcussssss and build around JT, JB and Timelord. Yup I said it!
Maaaaaahhhhcussssss and build around JT, JB and Timelord. Yup I said it!
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Theocy wrote:Amy idea whats the weather like over in san antonio ?
Dejunta Murray is a good contract and maybe we can entice the Spurs with picks plus tristan plus neismith ?
That’d give us a PG we so need, cost controlled plus it removes the clutter at the C position. Watched him play a bit this year he looked like a solid PG. Or am
I just delusional here
I live here in San Antonio, Murray has seemingly been the best piece for the Spurs rebuild as Keldon Johnson, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker and Devin Vassell look like good pieces as well. Their frontcourt outside of Poeltl is abysmal and with PG Jones coming up also, I don't think they'd move Murray for cheap but they do have a surplus of guards that could be plucked.
Derrick White and Murray are both very good defenders and White head to head vs Trae Young always eats him up in the 4th quarter. Whites contract isn't the prettiest as he has a 4 year 73 million extension but he is a similar player to Marcus Smart except a better shooter and smarter offensive player.
Murray is excellent with the ball in his hands but doesn't stretch the floor all that well. I'd be surprised if the Spurs moved him but I think White would be the perfect fit for Boston. I'm not sure San Antonio's direction though with DeRozans impending free agency. They actually played DeRozan anywhere from the 1-4 this past year and tried a lot of unique lineups. Only Pop knows what he's looking for but they've assembled a lot of good guard/wing pieces while neglecting Bigs.
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GoGreen wrote:Tbh,I'd really like to see what Smart can do under a new head coach who will, hopefully, reign him in. An EFFICIENT Marcus Smart is a keeper. If he's going to continue being the same guy, I'm all about seeing him go. Prob is, that leaves us with jack squat at PG..
it's baffling how wrong everyone continues to be about Pritchard. Kid could be a top 10-15 PG. 20-5-8 shooting 40% from three with above average defense is well within reach.
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15-5-3....41% from three with good defense and high energy as a rookie afterthought for most of the season.
You'd think he was a bum going by the posts on here or at best an end of bench role player. Embarrassing. He's 6'1" but apparently too small, in a league where Trae Young, Lowry, Rozier and Conley all led their teams deep into the playoffs. I swear people don't actually watch basketball on here. There's no other explanation.
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tfribs45 wrote:The “Smart” move would be to sign
Maaaaaahhhhcussssss and build around JT, JB and Timelord. Yup I said it!
Soooo you want to build around a guy who is a glorified role player who believes he's a first option and an oft injured big in order to keep Tatum and Brown here? If this roster is run back next season with the only changes being the coach and Al Horford this team will go nowhere and one of the two stars probably starts the process of asking for a trade.
The sad part is Brad is almost guaranteed to resign Smart to a real stupid contract and bring back Semi.