Odd Man Out??? - Hunter Waived; Young Stays

[Homerclease]

Green was terrible last night, he probably keeps his job due to the Smart injury and the need for a backup 2 guard right now but I can't see this guy being a rotation player this season. He is what he is, a vet minimum guy.

[BRUNiNHO91]

Young will be cut just because RJ has more years left on his contract. If I had my way I'd keep James and Hunter and cut Jackson. Don't see what the fuss is all about with this kid.

[ddb]

Young will be cut just because RJ has more years left on his contract. If I had my way I'd keep James and Hunter and cut Jackson. Don't see what the fuss is all about with this kid.

Yeah, I am with you on this one. Especially when you consider how darn good Rozier looks. Jackson is Maine bound....kid has talent, but does he have more potential value and upside over Young/Hunter?

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[Homerclease]

Young will be cut just because RJ has more years left on his contract. If I had my way I'd keep James and Hunter and cut Jackson. Don't see what the fuss is all about with this kid.

Yeah, I am with you on this one. Especially when you consider how darn good Rozier looks. Jackson is Maine bound....kid has talent, but does he have more potential value and upside over Young/Hunter?

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Why not just cut Green then?

[Banks2Pierce]

Why not just cut Green then?

Yeah, he's looked much more like Miami Hotel Lobby Gerald than Phoenix Suns, 40% from 3, 59%TS Gerald.

I'd kick the tires on McLemore at this point. Worried about our depth at wing if anyone goes down. I don't feel comfortable with any out of Hunter, Green, or Young getting minutes in Smart's absence. Brown will be bad at least until the New Year. Potential for dropping games looks real to me.

[cl2117]

You don't cut Green here, he's the cheapest and most likely to contribute this year.

I'm not expecting consistency from GG, but he's established a history of having hot stretches where he could really help with this team's biggest weakness, shooting/scoring. I think it'll be down to Stevens to manage Green's usage and take advantage of those stretches, while reigning him in when it gets ugly. But I think within this team, and particularly the 2nd unit, Green is going to have an opportunity to have an impact in a very meaningful way.

Hunter and Young both obviously have longer term potential, but they're still much further away to contributing in a meaningful way than Green is. Young particularly. He's shown a little bit in the last 2 games, but that's not enough to save him when you consider that just a couple months ago he gets benched in SL. I think you carry Hunter and hope that if Green doesn't work out, then he'd be ready to step into a similar role as a potential volume scorer off the bench (albeit in very limited minutes). He's much closer to being a net positive than Young.

And I seriously won't even feel bad if Young gets cut and goes to the Sixers or Wolves or wherever and all of a sudden he starts playing better with more minutes because I just can't imagine that happening on this C's roster at any point during his rookie contract, and as a result can't imagine him coming back after that. There is potential there, but it won't be realized while in Boston or Maine. Cut him and hope Hunter rounds into form.

[ddb]

Young will be cut just because RJ has more years left on his contract. If I had my way I'd keep James and Hunter and cut Jackson. Don't see what the fuss is all about with this kid.

Yeah, I am with you on this one. Especially when you consider how darn good Rozier looks. Jackson is Maine bound....kid has talent, but does he have more potential value and upside over Young/Hunter?

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Why not just cut Green then?

Green will make the team and help the team. He's looked fine minus last night.

[Homerclease]

Yeah, I am with you on this one. Especially when you consider how darn good Rozier looks. Jackson is Maine bound....kid has talent, but does he have more potential value and upside over Young/Hunter?

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Why not just cut Green then?

Green will make the team and help the team. He's looked fine minus last night.

Ooooh I disagree here, I think since his first appearance he's been bad. I understand what he was brought in here for but he's been largely ineffective at it. I'm through with stop gap players at this point. Brown is further along then we thought, play him and send green packing IMO

[Dogen]

I'd kick the tires on McLemore at this point. Worried about our depth at wing if anyone goes down. I don't feel comfortable with any out of Hunter, Green, or Young getting minutes in Smart's absence.

I'd kick the tires on McLemore, too. If Sacto is thinking they'll lose him after the season, maybe they'd consider a swap for Young and Hunter.

[m haynes]

Get rid of all three. They are useless. Brown a 19 year old that has improved in what 7 pre season games and these guy have been in the league and show nothing.

1. Hunter Has he ever hit a shot! He is noted as a shooter and I have yet to see him hit one, let alone two. He shows nothing on defense.

2. Mickey He is as dumb as a stump. Picked off when you career on the line (last night game with 2 minutes left) He looked totally shocked. His BB IQ doesn't exist. If anything he the last person on the bench. He the man you have to waste fouls. Important minutes are you crazy.

3. Young You all have eyes, he can't move, especially side to side. He will never be able to play one on one defense. I question his desire, he still looks lost or just doesn't understand basketball. He loses his man constantly or if the ball rotated to his side he not fast enough to cover.

I here Tommy H say they are young, ya ya ya but where is the improvement. You can stink but you can stink and show improvement. There is none. Here the excuse some will give, they are young and not everyone improves at the same rate. My reply, How Rosys shot this year, compared to last year. Many said it would be a miracle if he could ever shoot. He put the work in!!!

[return2glory]

Green had a bad preseason. He was really bad last night. But he is a decent vet, we should keep him.

Hunter and Young didn't do enough, especially Young. I still think Bentil has a chance to be better than those guys.

[Curmudgeon]

I'd like to see Ainge maneuver a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade involving Hunter and Young to bring in some veteran beef like Lavoy Allen, Kris Humphries or Dewayne Dedmon. I would have no problem throwing that heavily protected first rounder from the Clippers into the right deal.

[J0EMichigan]

After seeing how much better Ron Baker looked than any of our young bubble guys I would worry too much on who gets cut. They have had plenty of time to show us what they have to offer. This guy was un drafted. We also need a bid that can rebound. I am sure someone will get cut that is better than what we have.

[Parliament10]

Why not just cut Green then?

Green will make the team and help the team. He's looked fine minus last night.

Ooooh I disagree here, I think since his first appearance he's been bad. I understand what he was brought in here for but he's been largely ineffective at it. I'm through with stop gap players at this point. Brown is further along then we thought, play him and send green packing IMO

Cut Green.

We don't need him for a stopgap, as it turns out. Brown is fine.
Stay youthful, and keep the Kids: Jackson, Hunter, Young & Mickey.

You don't cut Green here, he's the cheapest and most likely to contribute this year.

Being the cheapest, is exactly why you do cut him.
The contribution and upside of the Kids (Brown, Mickey, Young, Hunter & Jackson) far outweighs anything that Green could bring, at this point. -- We're talking about an average 9 year difference.

Green will not be in the League in 9 years. All these Kids could be.

[KGboss]

Green will make the team and help the team. He's looked fine minus last night.

Ooooh I disagree here, I think since his first appearance he's been bad. I understand what he was brought in here for but he's been largely ineffective at it. I'm through with stop gap players at this point. Brown is further along then we thought, play him and send green packing IMO

Cut Green.

We don't need him for a stopgap, as it turns out. Brown is fine.
Stay youthful, and keep the Kids: Jackson, Hunter, Young & Mickey.

You don't cut Green here, he's the cheapest and most likely to contribute this year.

Being the cheapest, is exactly why you do cut him.
The contribution and upside of the Kids (Brown, Mickey, Young, Hunter & Jackson) far outweighs anything that Green could bring, at this point. -- We're talking about an average 9 year difference.

Green will not be in the League in 9 years. All these Kids could be.

All of those kids will not be in the league. Id be surprised if hunter, young, and bentil make it past this year to be honest.

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[Parliament10]

Ooooh I disagree here, I think since his first appearance he's been bad. I understand what he was brought in here for but he's been largely ineffective at it. I'm through with stop gap players at this point. Brown is further along then we thought, play him and send green packing IMO

Cut Green.

We don't need him for a stopgap, as it turns out. Brown is fine.
Stay youthful, and keep the Kids: Jackson, Hunter, Young & Mickey.

You don't cut Green here, he's the cheapest and most likely to contribute this year.

Being the cheapest, is exactly why you do cut him.
The contribution and upside of the Kids (Brown, Mickey, Young, Hunter & Jackson) far outweighs anything that Green could bring, at this point. -- We're talking about an average 9 year difference.

Green will not be in the League in 9 years. All these Kids could be.

All of those kids will not be in the league. Id be surprised if hunter, young, and bentil make it past this year to be honest.

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Bentil? -- I didn't mention him.

Hunter, Young and Mickey will definitely find a place in this League. Jackson, may bounce around, but he does have 3rd String PG Qualities.

[ddb]

I still can't get excited about James Young. Talented kid, but I don't think he'll ever turn into much in this league. At first I did....not anymore. For me, he's the odd man out.

[DoubleHappiness]

After seeing how much better Ron Baker looked than any of our young bubble guys I would worry too much on who gets cut. They have had plenty of time to show us what they have to offer. This guy was un drafted. We also need a bid that can rebound. I am sure someone will get cut that is better than what we have.

Young and Hunter are both better than Ron Baker.

[DoubleHappiness]

I still can't get excited about James Young. Talented kid, but I don't think he'll ever turn into much in this league. At first I did....not anymore. For me, he's the odd man out.

Yeah, maybe it's unfair but this is me too. Most of us on this board put some pretty high expectations on him when he came in, and perhaps those were too lofty.

But watching him not even climb onto any sort of steady improvement arc has been frustrating. If we keep him I am cool with that; if we cut him that's fine too.

He probably should have stayed in school or not gone to Kentucky.

[cl2117]

You don't cut Green here, he's the cheapest and most likely to contribute this year.

Being the cheapest, is exactly why you do cut him.
The contribution and upside of the Kids (Brown, Mickey, Young, Hunter & Jackson) far outweighs anything that Green could bring, at this point. -- We're talking about an average 9 year difference.

Green will not be in the League in 9 years. All these Kids could be.

That's incredibly misleading. You're only dropping one of those kids, so it's not Green or the rest of them, it's Green or one of them.

And Young has made it very clear that it should be him that should be cut. He's not going to contribute while on his rookie deal and he's not going to get resigned after it. So the contribution and upside of Young is virtually non-existent (especially when you consider the upcoming influx of young talent via next year's draft), whereas the contribution of Green could be significant for at least this year.

I'd not hesitate to cut Green to keep Mickey, Jackson and even Hunter, but Young's not worth it. I'd rather keep the vet around and see if Stevens can't get him back closer to his Phoenix days, he may actually have some hot streaks where he wins you a couple games. He might not either, but James Young certainly isn't.