Tacko Fall Signed to Two-Way (10-13-19)

meatball sub · Post #101 » by **meatball sub** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:24 pm

Big ass dude, which is exactly what we need. FOH with y’all negativity on this kid. He’s 7’7 & he knows how to use it.

Post #102 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:28 pm

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Kingsway_fan · Post #103 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:35 pm

He will amount to nothing..just a tall stiff....

CelticsLV · Post #104 » by **CelticsLV** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm

meatball sub wrote:Big ass dude, which is exactly what we need. FOH with y’all negativity on this kid. He’s 7’7 & he knows how to use it.

I'm negative on his upside. Nothing personal against him. Seems like a very bright guy. He has a great build and moves pretty well... for a 7'7. But that's about it.

FinNasty · Post #105 » by **FinNasty** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:30 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:
FinNasty wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:What era would he have been drafted in? Even his closest comp, Manute Bol, was drafted in a round that no longer exists and that was closer to 40 years ago. Dude is completely immobile. I'm not even remotely seeing how he could be used in an NBA game except in some sort of late game situation where you need a tall guy to bother the inbounder or on some kind of inbounds play where you just lob it up to him for a tip in. He is unbelievable slow. He can bother shots at the rim, but I don't see how it matters if he will just get destroyed in PnR he'll just be a foul machine. At least he'll be fun to watch for a bit as a sideshow in SL.

He’s not completely immobile. That is crazy hyperbole. And “foul machine”? He only fouled out 4 times in his entire college career with 1 less foul than in the NBA.

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He had the worst lane agility time in the entire combine. He's incredibly slow. He will 100 pct be a foul machine in the NBA. I'm just not seeing it with this dude except in really, really specific spots and only if he has a 75% fg to compensate for everything else.

Of course he had the slowest... he was also the biggest by a WIDE margin. Point is though, he can move well for his size. And his insane wingspan makes him hard to go around and makes up for some quickness.

He probably won’t be a starter... but he absolutely can contribute. He changes the game when he comes on the floor. He set combine records for almost every size category imaginable... and he has good athleticism for someone his size.

There is absolutely a place for him in this league...

Roddy · Post #106 » by **Roddy** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:37 pm

If he can give 10 minutes/game, block a couple of shots and 6 hard fouls on Embiid.....I'm all for it.

zoyathedestroya · Post #107 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:38 pm

Good read, if you want to learn more about Tacko...

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OldCeltics · Post #108 » by **OldCeltics** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:55 pm

Do you realize how hard you have to work to get a 4.0 GPA?

He could be a Vice President of a company with his work ethic. Imagine if he applies it to basketball instead?

He literally just started playing a few years ago. This guy has the potential to dominate the league if he applies himself, puts in years of hard work, and is given a chance.

For ** sake, he can just stand next to the basket, and put up layups and get blocks all day.

FinNasty · Post #109 » by **FinNasty** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:07 am

To give you some perspective on his record breaking wingspan, this is him... in high school.

He’s bigger now... lol

return2glory · Post #110 » by **return2glory** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:35 am

I was hoping he would be there at 51 but I felt he would be taken earlier. When he passed on him at 51, I was hoping we would invite him to SL and that he makes your team. It would be a great story. I feel like he will be an impactful player for Boston in short spurts until he gets better and better.

He played really well in the tournament. It was great how he contained Duke for the most part until he got into foul trouble.

GuyClinch · Post #111 » by **GuyClinch** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:41 am

Maybe his combine numbers weren't great but doesn't seem that slow on the court.. I could see him making the team.

Post #112 » by **djFan71** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:59 am

I don't see how he plays man to man. He was literally looking behind himself backpedaling in the drill. He'll just get killed in pick and roll. You'd have to have the guards fight over every screen and live with the results if they can't. I guess the other hope is he's so long that he doesn't have to come out fully to contain penetration. But, seems like that's a recipe for 3s galore behind the screen from the other team.

I think if you use him, you'd almost have to zone up for the time he's in. If he's just running side to side in/out of the lane and protecting the rim, that could be pretty effective. That wingspan will let him cover so much effective ground and affect shots that it could work. But, seems like even that would only be in stretches. You just can't go zone that long.

No idea what the offensive end would look like. If the other team is going small ball can he get position and just throw it down thru the hoop? Would be worth it to have him on a 2-way just to see what happens in a couple years.

robdog_5 · Post #113 » by **robdog_5** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:09 am

Hes super slow. Against Duke he was fun to watch. He could be a guy who plays 5 to 6 mins a game in which you try to match him up with a post dominant C. But in this day and age how is he going to defend a PnR or a big like Lopez whose gonna bring him 30 feet out

12footrim · Post #114 » by **12footrim** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:33 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Tacko Fall is so bad, dunno what anyone sees in him. Do you think he could even pretend to stay on the court for one defensive possession against an NBA team? Sideshow player, have fun in China or something, bro. He will be 100 pct attacked every defensive possession just like someone like Boban, except at least Boban is freakishly strong in the post and is an automatic 2 pts every time down the court so it evens out. Tacko Fall is an eight foot pylon who shoots 36 pct from the FT line. He'll be fun for some summer league highlights and hopefully there will be some meme-able clips of him not even being able to run the length of the court or something.

When people look at Tacko Fall, what do they envision his absolute ceiling to be? He's the least agile player in the history of the NBA, he can't shoot, he's 10 feet tall and likely made of glass. Any good big will be able to box him out with ease, but sure he can snag some cheap rebounds over shorter players and I bet he'd be able to swat a few fun blocks. You legit will not even be able to run an offense with him on the court. It'll be 4v5 until he shows up in the halfcourt with 12 seconds left on the shotclock.

I'll bet you right now that he's on NBA rosters for a few years. I'm an ECU grad and have watched him in the AAC for 4 years and I don't think you understand how dominate a defensive presence he is. He's also highly efficient on offense with one of the highest FG percentages ever to go along with some of the highest defensive ratings. He anchored and was most of the reason UCF was a top 25 team and gave Duke everything they could handle. He certainly didn't look out of place on the court with Zion and 2 other top 10 picks.I think you guys got an absolute steal. If there are places for 35 year olds like Zaza and Andrew Bogut or Gortat to start games in this league in 2019 he can certainly be on a roster. There were plenty of dumb teams not to draft him. I mean freaking Yabusale, I'd take Tacko all day over him.

12footrim · Post #115 » by **12footrim** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:08 pm

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1500835

Here is a thread on the draft board I started on him in 2016.

JmacBronco68 · Post #116 » by **JmacBronco68** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:15 pm

He is slower but it's not like he got beat by 3-4 seconds in every drill. He had a better shuttle run than Naz Reid, Claxton, and Lawson at the combine. His lane agility was the slowest by about .5 to 1 second compared to other big centers but I'm betting the extra foot in standing reach will make up for some of that.

Post #117 » by **Darth Celtic** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:22 pm

djFan71 wrote:I don't see how he plays man to man. He was literally looking behind himself backpedaling in the drill. He'll just get killed in pick and roll. You'd have to have the guards fight over every screen and live with the results if they can't. I guess the other hope is he's so long that he doesn't have to come out fully to contain penetration. But, seems like that's a recipe for 3s galore behind the screen from the other team.

I think if you use him, you'd almost have to zone up for the time he's in. If he's just running side to side in/out of the lane and protecting the rim, that could be pretty effective. That wingspan will let him cover so much effective ground and affect shots that it could work. But, seems like even that would only be in stretches. You just can't go zone that long.

No idea what the offensive end would look like. If the other team is going small ball can he get position and just throw it down thru the hoop? Would be worth it to have him on a 2-way just to see what happens in a couple years.

I agree on 1 on 1. Leaving him on an island against any pg worth while would be poor. Maybe he can cover ground to block because his 10ft standing reach, but best to play zone.

We saw a lot of zone in this years playoffs. Brad has played some zone. A special zone when he comes in could be done. We are talking about 5mins a half maybe.

Post #118 » by **Darth Celtic** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:24 pm

robdog_5 wrote:Hes super slow. Against Duke he was fun to watch. He could be a guy who plays 5 to 6 mins a game in which you try to match him up with a post dominant C. But in this day and age how is he going to defend a PnR or a big like Lopez whose gonna bring him 30 feet out

If the bucks keep lopez (not easy), i'm still ok with him shooting all the 3's. Cuz open or not, covered or not, odds you don't block it or even affect the shot at all anyway with whoever is on him. If he's hot, they can win. Odds are he'll miss a lot of shots.

cloverleaf · Post #119 » by **cloverleaf** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:24 pm

12footrim wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1500835

Here is a thread on the draft board I started on him in 2016.

Thanks. I think he's different than the usual sideshow as well. Here's Bleacher Report on him. His standing reach is above the rim. But he's also actually a healthy looking and well proportioned man who hasn't been limited by injuries so far, which is a very good sign. (Also, despite his monster size he bested 3 other players in the shuttle run.) UCF's success, including against Zion and Duke says a lot too, as well as that he's so smart and apparently hardworking to overcome being so late to the game.

Tacko Fall's measurements at the #NBADraftCombine

7'7" with shoes
289 lbs
6.8 % body fat
8'2 1/4 wingspan
10'2 1/2 standing reach

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UCF center Tacko Fall made a name for himself during the NCAA tournament when he nearly led the Knights to an upset of the Duke Blue Devils.

Fall shattered all the measurement records at the combine, standing at 7'7" in shoes with an 8'2 1/4" wingspan and a 10'2 1/2" standing reach. He demonstrated his shot-blocking and defensive abilities at UCF and looked better than expected at the combine in his scrimmage sessions, per Scott Gleeson of USAToday.com.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836908-nba-combine-results-2019-players-who-made-biggest-impression

Post #120 » by **Darth Celtic** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:26 pm

12footrim wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Tacko Fall is so bad, dunno what anyone sees in him. Do you think he could even pretend to stay on the court for one defensive possession against an NBA team? Sideshow player, have fun in China or something, bro. He will be 100 pct attacked every defensive possession just like someone like Boban, except at least Boban is freakishly strong in the post and is an automatic 2 pts every time down the court so it evens out. Tacko Fall is an eight foot pylon who shoots 36 pct from the FT line. He'll be fun for some summer league highlights and hopefully there will be some meme-able clips of him not even being able to run the length of the court or something.

When people look at Tacko Fall, what do they envision his absolute ceiling to be? He's the least agile player in the history of the NBA, he can't shoot, he's 10 feet tall and likely made of glass. Any good big will be able to box him out with ease, but sure he can snag some cheap rebounds over shorter players and I bet he'd be able to swat a few fun blocks. You legit will not even be able to run an offense with him on the court. It'll be 4v5 until he shows up in the halfcourt with 12 seconds left on the shotclock.

I'll bet you right now that he's on NBA rosters for a few years. I'm an ECU grad and have watched him in the AAC for 4 years and I don't think you understand how dominate a defensive presence he is. He's also highly efficient on offense with one of the highest FG percentages ever to go along with some of the highest defensive ratings. He anchored and was most of the reason UCF was a top 25 team and gave Duke everything they could handle. He certainly didn't look out of place on the court with Zion and 2 other top 10 picks.I think you guys got an absolute steal. If there are places for 35 year olds like Zaza and Andrew Bogut or Gortat to start games in this league in 2019 he can certainly be on a roster. There were plenty of dumb teams not to draft him. I mean freaking Yabusale, I'd take Tacko all day over him.

Well, to be fair you can play straight zone in college with no 3 second call. Also most college teams don't have the 3pt shooting to space the floor and draw defenders. He had that high d rating cuz he never played high pick and roll 2 vs 2 defense. In the NBA he will need to adjust, as will the team who signs him.