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Post#101 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:32 am

Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.
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Post#102 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:42 am

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Jaqua92 wrote:yeah I don't think I'm becoming here indicates another big move. I think it's a matter of simply being a better situation than Charlotte. That's it

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He will give you the same as Kyrie.

He replaces all what Kyrie does at the same level. Kyrie better, but Kemba gets to the line more and isn’t a EMO weirdo.

I am older, 42, and I have learned that in all aspects of business the most important consideration isn’t talent, though you need it, it is reliability. Talent is massive need, but I will take someone reliable who is very very good over an EMO genius.

Kyrie is just unreliable as a personality. He was good in Boston, then bad, was moody and weird. He has now been unhappy in 2 places where he won big and/or could win big.

Kemba plays everyday. Is massively productive and explosive, and can do all the things Kyrie can functionally. They are about equal, I will take the guy who is reliable, durable.

I can guarantee you this: Kemba will sign the Gosh Darn charity basketballs.




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Kemba is a better basketball player.

There's a difference between being a better basketball player and a better talent. Kyrie is the better talent but kemba is the better basketball player for everything he encompasses from stats to durability and more (including being a better teammate). All of these things should be factored in when evaluating a player
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Post#103 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:43 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

Wrong
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Post#104 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:45 am

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celticfan42487 wrote:Shams AND Woj agree, this is done.

Thanks for making the thread I was just about to.

I'll say this...

I have NO IDEA why Kemba is signing with us when all our all-star talent and some of our best role players (Morris, Baynes, and Rozier) of the past 2 years are leaving.

That said I'm so **** pumped to get an all-star for the low low price of zero assets.

Also I suspect Kemba isn't saying to himself "yeah add me, lose Irving, Horford, Baynes, Morris, Rozier = championship!" so either he wants to play in Stevens system... or we got some trades coming that Ainge promised Kemba he make to get another all-star in here for him to play with.

EITHER WAY. Great great day.

Our modern golden era since 2008 continues.

And the Celtics will once again ACTUALLY BE FUN next season. <3 <3 <3


I think he wants to be here, but I also think there aren't that many teams looking to pay him the max. Lakers reportedly only will offer that to Kawhi and Kyrie. Clippers reportedly have other guys on their radar. Nets are targetting Kyrie. Knicks reportedly aren't targetting him. 76ers are targeting their own guys and if they fail, they don't really want a ball dominant PG when Simmons is their ball handler. Kings have Fox. Mavericks have Luka handling PG duties. Everyone else doesn't have max room. As soon as Charlotte decided not to pay him, we became his best option by default if he wanted to get paid.


Kemba East Coast. No chance he would go to LA.

If Kawahi can be west coast and HAVE to be there, Kemba is same way as East Coast. This dude isn’t, miraculously at 30, saying he has to go LA.

Not his lifestyle.


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Post#105 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:50 am

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jfs1000d wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:yeah I don't think I'm becoming here indicates another big move. I think it's a matter of simply being a better situation than Charlotte. That's it

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He will give you the same as Kyrie.

He replaces all what Kyrie does at the same level. Kyrie better, but Kemba gets to the line more and isn’t a EMO weirdo.

I am older, 42, and I have learned that in all aspects of business the most important consideration isn’t talent, though you need it, it is reliability. Talent is massive need, but I will take someone reliable who is very very good over an EMO genius.

Kyrie is just unreliable as a personality. He was good in Boston, then bad, was moody and weird. He has now been unhappy in 2 places where he won big and/or could win big.

Kemba plays everyday. Is massively productive and explosive, and can do all the things Kyrie can functionally. They are about equal, I will take the guy who is reliable, durable.

I can guarantee you this: Kemba will sign the Gosh Darn charity basketballs.




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Kemba is a better basketball player.

There's a difference between being a better basketball player and a better talent. Kyrie is the better talent but kemba is the better basketball player for everything he encompasses from stats to durability and more (including being a better teammate). All of these things should be factored in when evaluating a player


This. LBF nailed it right there.
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Re: Enter, Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#106 » by Darth Celtic » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:51 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

Wrong

I don''t even mean this in the mean way. I don't mind the dude. But the next time Andrew is right about something, will be the first time.
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Post#107 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:53 am

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LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
He will give you the same as Kyrie.

He replaces all what Kyrie does at the same level. Kyrie better, but Kemba gets to the line more and isn’t a EMO weirdo.

I am older, 42, and I have learned that in all aspects of business the most important consideration isn’t talent, though you need it, it is reliability. Talent is massive need, but I will take someone reliable who is very very good over an EMO genius.

Kyrie is just unreliable as a personality. He was good in Boston, then bad, was moody and weird. He has now been unhappy in 2 places where he won big and/or could win big.

Kemba plays everyday. Is massively productive and explosive, and can do all the things Kyrie can functionally. They are about equal, I will take the guy who is reliable, durable.

I can guarantee you this: Kemba will sign the Gosh Darn charity basketballs.




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Kemba is a better basketball player.

There's a difference between being a better basketball player and a better talent. Kyrie is the better talent but kemba is the better basketball player for everything he encompasses from stats to durability and more (including being a better teammate). All of these things should be factored in when evaluating a player


This. LBF nailed it right there.

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Post#108 » by Writebloc » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:58 am

Sorry if this has been posted before. Old friend Steve Bulpett breaks it down.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/29/celtics-may-still-be-lucky-after-net-loss-of-stars/amp/

More moves will be necessary. There is a very good returning core in Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, and people around the team are cautiously giddy of what Gordon Hayward could be as he gets further away from his horrible injuryand plays a crew that hopefully is interested in sharing the ball more. But that still leaves a major need for an experienced big person.


This is the first I'm hearing people talking positively regarding Hayward. Momentum is gaining speed. Come on Ainge work your magic.
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Post#109 » by 31to6 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:03 am

Writebloc wrote:Sorry if this has been posted before. Old friend Steve Bulpett breaks it down.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/29/celtics-may-still-be-lucky-after-net-loss-of-stars/amp/

More moves will be necessary. There is a very good returning core in Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, and people around the team are cautiously giddy of what Gordon Hayward could be as he gets further away from his horrible injuryand plays a crew that hopefully is interested in sharing the ball more. But that still leaves a major need for an experienced big person.


This is the first I'm hearing people talking positively regarding Hayward. Momentum is gaining speed. Come on Ainge work your magic.


Danny probably slipped Bulpett a crisp $100 to put the word ‘giddy’ in there
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Post#110 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:21 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

Wrong

I don''t even mean this in the mean way. I don't mind the dude. But the next time Andrew is right about something, will be the first time.


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Post#111 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:25 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

Wrong


We were set up to trade for stars and have a cast of roleplayers around them - we’re losing Kyrie, Rozier, Morris, Baynes and Horford - even if Kemba is better than Kyrie and our offense flows better, we’re replacing a group of competent vets with rookies and .. Enes Kanter. I actually like Kanter a lot, he’s strong, rebounds really well - but he’s more Greg Monroe than Al Horford - which is why you might get him for 4.5 million. We could win 50+ this year with better chemistry and internal improvement, but we’re taking a net loss on overall talent level.
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Post#112 » by rd26 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:02 am

Kemba has the same chance Kyrie had. If he embraces the idea of building something WITH the young guys and assets, he has the opportunity to go down as a great Celtic.

Kyrie, with all his talent still doesn't realize that there is anyone else in the universe but him, and he has all the patience of a 3 year old.

He absolutely blew a huge opportunity. Let's hope Kemba does better, and I think he will.
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Post#113 » by Soulcatcher33 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:08 am

The success of this team this upcoming season is basically going to come down if Hayward is back or not, though. He's never going to put up the numbers he did in 2017 for the simple fact that he won't ever be the vocal point of an offense like he was on the Jazz with Kemba and Tatum there, but he can definitely provide a huge impact beyond box score numbers if he can get to the level of play he was playing at even in 15, 16. People keep going on about Kemba like he's Kyrie, but Kemba had to play the way he was playing because the Hornets basically had NOTHING else offensively. He had to be that kind of ball dominant 20 shot a game player. Kemba isn't a selfish player, though, and never has been. He'll have no problem with a smaller usage rate if it leads to winning.

I'm really looking forward to this upcoming season. I think you are going to see a much happier group of guys out there and that chemistry will be really good. Kemba is a really chill guy just like Hayward so he should come in and fit comfortably with everyone else. With Kyrie gone and the cancer that was Rozier I think this group is going to be much happier and relaxed out there. You are going to say this group playing with a joy that was lacking this past season.
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Post#114 » by Cyclical » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:16 am

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Man, I'm just giddy about this. Just could not enjoy my team with this egotistical, unaware diva we had as our so-called leader.
Danny, please find a way to add Capela to the mix and I'll be forever grateful.

EDIT: C's aren't trying to acquire Capela per reports. Oh well. Still Giddy.
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Post#115 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:26 am

CeltsfaninDC wrote:The Charlotte board is understandably upset. They are calling for tampering and are expecting our firsts.


They can go get Brooklyn’s first from us, or, whoever signs Horford.


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Post#116 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:40 am

31to6 wrote:
Writebloc wrote:Sorry if this has been posted before. Old friend Steve Bulpett breaks it down.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/29/celtics-may-still-be-lucky-after-net-loss-of-stars/amp/

More moves will be necessary. There is a very good returning core in Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, and people around the team are cautiously giddy of what Gordon Hayward could be as he gets further away from his horrible injuryand plays a crew that hopefully is interested in sharing the ball more. But that still leaves a major need for an experienced big person.


This is the first I'm hearing people talking positively regarding Hayward. Momentum is gaining speed. Come on Ainge work your magic.


Danny probably slipped Bulpett a crisp $100 to put the word ‘giddy’ in there


Hayward has some explosive games late in the season.

His game log is ridiculous in its inconsistency.

Hayward, I am sure, is working on his body and explosiveness this offseason. It is going to come back. He just lost that explosion when he had to learn how to run again.

I think we will see a much quicker and much more explosive player this Year


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Post#117 » by chrisab123 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:49 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

jfs1000d wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Writebloc wrote:Sorry if this has been posted before. Old friend Steve Bulpett breaks it down.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/06/29/celtics-may-still-be-lucky-after-net-loss-of-stars/amp/



This is the first I'm hearing people talking positively regarding Hayward. Momentum is gaining speed. Come on Ainge work your magic.


Danny probably slipped Bulpett a crisp $100 to put the word ‘giddy’ in there


Hayward has some explosive games late in the season.

His game log is ridiculous in its inconsistency.

Hayward, I am sure, is working on his body and explosiveness this offseason. It is going to come back. He just lost that explosion when he had to learn how to run again.

I think we will see a much quicker and much more explosive player this Year


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What if the emphasis is to develop RW3 and eventually play Kanter/Looney off the bench?
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Post#118 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:51 am

chrisab123 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Kemba is a good player and could be a better fit than Kyrie, but.. Kemba and Enes Kanter? We're just trying to stop the bleeding.

jfs1000d wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Danny probably slipped Bulpett a crisp $100 to put the word ‘giddy’ in there


Hayward has some explosive games late in the season.

His game log is ridiculous in its inconsistency.

Hayward, I am sure, is working on his body and explosiveness this offseason. It is going to come back. He just lost that explosion when he had to learn how to run again.

I think we will see a much quicker and much more explosive player this Year


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What if the emphasis is to develop RW3 and eventually play Kanter/Looney off the bench?


I think they like Williams, a lot. But you have to win games this year. I just gotta see better positioning. He will rebound, dunk and blocks shots. Will he set screens, roll correctly, and be in the right spots on defense.


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Post#119 » by Kalela » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:06 am

Kemba is a huge downgrade to Kyrie and whoever the Celtics sign to replace Horford - assuming they will - will be an even bigger downgrade.
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