Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 10: Free Agency is in Free Flow

[The Corey's]

See you guys in November when I start my bitching about zero defense. Have a ok summer fools

[Andrew McCeltic]

So what are we looking at now?

Kemba/Smart/Wanamaker/Edwards
Brown/Langford
Hayward/Ojeleye
Tatum/Grant Williams/Yabu
Kanter/Rob Williams/Theis/Poirier
+ Waters, Fall

Could add someone by trading or cutting Yabu - including a full time roster spot for Tacko..

But we would need to deal Smart/Jaylen or Hayward to get anyone impactful..

[Memokerobi]

Couldn't sign 2 $5mm guys without resigning Theis. Kanter was signed with an exception.

Oh I understand, thanks. Then I’d rather have had Theis + Ed Davis/WCS/Mcgee

Right, but I think Kanter brings an offensive skillset we are unlikely to replicate with those guys. I imagine they envision Williams with the defensive/vertical skillset of those guys you mentioned (even if he still needs work to get there). We should probably look at the Celtics big men like a swiss-army knife. We employ them selectively given a certain situation as complementary pieces.

Yes but is it smart to rely on Rob Williams as your defensive specialist? I’m just saying they should have prioritized a defensive big over Kanter. It’s not an exact science, I definitely understand people who like the signing, he’s very good at scoring and rebounding. While those are good skills, I’d rather have Davis who’s a terrific rebounder and a good defender. I hope to be wrong on this one. We’ll see

[Andrew McCeltic]

Wish we had a junk contract to trade for Steven Adams..

One scenario:

Westbrook to MIA
Winslow, two unprotected LAC/MIA picks to BOS
Jaylen, Yabu, Dragic, Olynyk, Ojeleye to OKC

[Theocy]

Wish we had a junk contract to trade for Steven Adams..

One scenario:

Westbrook to MIA
Winslow, two unprotected LAC/MIA picks to BOS
Jaylen, Yabu, Dragic, Olynyk, Ojeleye to OKC

What is this fascination with Adams. Is he really that good? Honest question. A few people bring him up I just though he was an average C

[Andrew McCeltic]

Oh I understand, thanks. Then I’d rather have had Theis + Ed Davis/WCS/Mcgee

Right, but I think Kanter brings an offensive skillset we are unlikely to replicate with those guys. I imagine they envision Williams with the defensive/vertical skillset of those guys you mentioned (even if he still needs work to get there). We should probably look at the Celtics big men like a swiss-army knife. We employ them selectively given a certain situation as complementary pieces.

Yes but is it smart to rely on Rob Williams as your defensive specialist? I’m just saying they should have prioritized a defensive big over Kanter. It’s not an exact science, I definitely understand people who like the signing, he’s very good at scoring and rebounding. While those are good skills, I’d rather have Davis who’s a terrific rebounder and a good defender. I hope to be wrong on this one. We’ll see

Based on stray comments from journalists, I think they prioritized bigs who can play in our offense - dribble hand-offs and quick passes. Davis is more limited.. They’re striking a balance - Kanter can be the starter while Williams develops..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Wish we had a junk contract to trade for Steven Adams..

One scenario:

Westbrook to MIA
Winslow, two unprotected LAC/MIA picks to BOS
Jaylen, Yabu, Dragic, Olynyk, Ojeleye to OKC

What is this fascination with Adams. Is he really that good? Honest question. A few people bring him up I just though he was an average C

He’s not that good, he’s good, and easy to root for, but it’s just the idea he seems to be on the market for peanuts.. like, if we’d been able to turn Horford into Adams, we’d be that much better off..

[Triple7]

Oh I understand, thanks. Then I’d rather have had Theis + Ed Davis/WCS/Mcgee

Right, but I think Kanter brings an offensive skillset we are unlikely to replicate with those guys. I imagine they envision Williams with the defensive/vertical skillset of those guys you mentioned (even if he still needs work to get there). We should probably look at the Celtics big men like a swiss-army knife. We employ them selectively given a certain situation as complementary pieces.

Yes but is it smart to rely on Rob Williams as your defensive specialist? I’m just saying they should have prioritized a defensive big over Kanter. It’s not an exact science, I definitely understand people who like the signing, he’s very good at scoring and rebounding. While those are good skills, I’d rather have Davis who’s a terrific rebounder and a good defender. I hope to be wrong on this one. We’ll see

Signing Kanter for cheap is good. He gives us something different on the offensive end, a post up presence which don’t have last year. Plus rebounding. What we needed to do with the extra money is to go get someone to protect the rim. Ed davis would have been decent. Tyson chandler would be good especially against bigger C’s like embiid and drummond. I’d take the risk of signing Dwight, if we can get him for cheap as well. Any bigs, instead of hoping for Pourier, RW and Fall to become reliable this season, which i think won’t happen. Of course we can always trade for one later, but we can always get one now.

[Parliament10]

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[Bleeding Green]

Wow, Ainge really finessed a likely mid-second for the privilege of trading Rozier for Kemba Walker. Charlotte is really dumb lmao

The late second is part of the NBA baker’s dozen.. mostly I think we did Terry a favor to get him more money - he was ready to sign with Phoenix..

Maybe, but if you give me an extra late second every year, I'll get Jokic once a generation. Every team sucks at drafting, so just get as many extra picks (or move up as many spots) as you can.

[Bohemian]

So I guess this is it for now. No more moves in the near future. Summertime!

Walker
Smart
Hayward
Tatum
Kanter
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Edwards/Wanamaker/Waters
Brown/Langford
G Williams/ Ojeleye
Theis/Poirier
R Williams/ Tacko?

[Roddy]

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[cloverleaf]

Thies is getting the money because the plan is to play Tatum and eventually Grant Williams at the Power forward minutes. Guys like Morris want to start or be the first big off the bench and take a bunch of shots. Thies knows his role and won't cause any problems while we develop our young players.

For this particular team Theis is valuable for the reasons you stated but also because he is our only experienced big who can stretch the floor. And if he is back to 100% he can play some D. I think he’s a decent player.

I expect to see Kanter sticking 3's by opening night.

[cloverleaf]

I wonder who gets No 11. Maybe a big star player.

Looking for #11?

https://twitter.com/EnesKanter

[gocelts]

Thies is getting the money because the plan is to play Tatum and eventually Grant Williams at the Power forward minutes. Guys like Morris want to start or be the first big off the bench and take a bunch of shots. Thies knows his role and won't cause any problems while we develop our young players.

For this particular team Theis is valuable for the reasons you stated but also because he is our only experienced big who can stretch the floor. And if he is back to 100% he can play some D. I think he’s a decent player.

He’s decent alright just as long as you don’t have him guard the likes of giannis, embiid and drummond. He would have been ok if we had rim protection already, ut we don’t.

Totally agree on that point. That's the glaring hole in the roster where we need another big to man up on these kind of players. I don't believe there was a "Giannis stopper" available though.

Horford Morris and Baynes all did okay particularly on Embiid. Theis will get some of those minutes now and fingers crossed that Kanter simply can keep up on offense to make up for his defense.

That's where danny has his work cut out for him. That being said, adding Theis does help with the overall depth of the roster.

[Roddy]

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[AgentGreen]

I'm starting to think that Ainge and Brad will talk with Hayward to start from the bench again.. They'll tell him he needs a little bit more time so that he can slowly comeback into rythm till the all star break.

I think the starting lineup will be something like this in the beginning.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Theis, Kanter

You need a big like Theis next to Kanter. Theis has the abbility to protect the rim. He's a good shotblocker and can guard multiple positions. Kanter on the other hand will solve the rebounding issues, he can boxout his opponents and will give us interior offense. I think that this could be a very good frontcourt duo.

Theis didnt play his A game anymore since he came back from his injury. People forget over here that he was playing really really good before his injury. He was a solid contributor on the offensive and defensive end. His injury hurt our teams chemistry for a few months. This guy could suddenly breakout next season and be a MIP candidate. You never know.

Also what do you guys think about a potential Kanter + Adams frontcourt? Or Theis + Adams and let Kanter lead our secondary together with Smart.

The biggest issue is still we got too many wings. If the staff isnt confident in Haywards comeback they should shop him to OKC for Adams + Grant

[Higgs Boston]

Should be something like this in game 1:

Kemba
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Kanter or RW3

I can't believe people putting hayward in the starting lineup and sending brown to the bench when he was one of the few players that didn't look like **** and Hayward hasn't done anything to deserve to be a starter.

[BeanTownBrawler]

Stop putting Hayward or Tatum at pf. That team cannot do anything in the playoffs. Hayward is now on the bench, nothing wrong w that. Havliceck also came off the bench.

We should use one of our bigs at pf, either theis or Williams.

[sam_I_am]

Hayward and Yabousele for Galinari and Adams comes close to 125%. Good center, good stretch PF when healthy for a great wing when healthy is probably not worth it unless OKC throws in a pick - but they want picks for these guys.