2020 NBA Draft Thread

[SmartWentCrazy]

Know it was an off game for Carey but man I was not impressed. He got absolutely WORKED by a bit of a stiff in Olivier Sarr in the paint. Just hacked him constantly and beaten for position in the post /for rebounds all night. Zero passing skills shown as well.

Watching that, I don't know how you can see him as a 1st Rd pick.

He wont be one.

[Gomes3PC]

Know it was an off game for Carey but man I was not impressed. He got absolutely WORKED by a bit of a stiff in Olivier Sarr in the paint. Just hacked him constantly and beaten for position in the post /for rebounds all night. Zero passing skills shown as well.

Watching that, I don't know how you can see him as a 1st Rd pick.

Bad game.

He needs work, but there is alot of talent and potential there. Not too often you are getting someone at the 17th pick who will be an immediate difference maker and a closer to finished project.

The location of the 3 picks is going to be interesting. Carey might be there at 27.

Tyler Bey (ferocious defender and rebounder, improving offense)
Saddiq Bey
Pat Williams
Nesmith
Amar Sylla (Pascal Siakam/Dieng typeof player, lot of heart and endless motor)
Vernon Carey Jr
Jahmius Ramsey (Marcus Smart Jr with a bit more offense than Smart had as a rookie)

Been growing alot on the idea of Ramsey, Tyler Bey and Sylla

Would be a crushing defensive bench if Hayward is back and starting

Kemba/Smart/Waters
Brown/Ramsey/Romeo
Hayward/Bey/Tax Payer MLE
Tatum/Grant/Sylla
Theis/Timelord/Tacko

imo the top defensive team in the league, easily.

There's no way Carey would be an immediate contributor. He cannot defend at a good level in college, no chance he would be ready for NBA bigs, especially guys who space the floor. His rebounding is unremarkable. His offensive game is mainly hustle right now.

Carey is super young and has good fundamental athletic / physical tools, but he reminds me of the Fran Fraschilla '3 years away from being 3 years away.'

He's a guy I'd recommend return to college and round out his offense. Or, he'll likely be a 2nd Rd pick and will need to spend a couple years in the G League.

[100proof]

Know it was an off game for Carey but man I was not impressed. He got absolutely WORKED by a bit of a stiff in Olivier Sarr in the paint. Just hacked him constantly and beaten for position in the post /for rebounds all night. Zero passing skills shown as well.

Watching that, I don't know how you can see him as a 1st Rd pick.

Bad game.

He needs work, but there is alot of talent and potential there. Not too often you are getting someone at the 17th pick who will be an immediate difference maker and a closer to finished project.

The location of the 3 picks is going to be interesting. Carey might be there at 27.

Tyler Bey (ferocious defender and rebounder, improving offense)
Saddiq Bey
Pat Williams
Nesmith
Amar Sylla (Pascal Siakam/Dieng typeof player, lot of heart and endless motor)
Vernon Carey Jr
Jahmius Ramsey (Marcus Smart Jr with a bit more offense than Smart had as a rookie)

Been growing alot on the idea of Ramsey, Tyler Bey and Sylla

Would be a crushing defensive bench if Hayward is back and starting

Kemba/Smart/Waters
Brown/Ramsey/Romeo
Hayward/Bey/Tax Payer MLE
Tatum/Grant/Sylla
Theis/Timelord/Tacko

imo the top defensive team in the league, easily.

There's no way Carey would be an immediate contributor.

thats what I said.

you are not getting someone at 17 who will be an immediate contributor, so no point in expecting one to be.

Carey has tools, but needs work. But a big bodied, low post bruiser with excellent rebounding instincts, a smooth shot translateable to an nba 3 and the ability to alter shots is certainly worth a gamble. Anyone in that range has holes in their game.

[Gomes3PC]

We got a contributor in Grant Williams this year. Last year Donte DiVincenzo was a rotation piece for MIL. The year before that, John Collins was picked 19th. Year before, Malik Beasley and Caris LeVert went 19/20.

So, I disagree categorically with the notion that we can't find a 10-20 MPG contributor at the 17th pick.

That's not to say Ainge won't draft a "project" or an overseas stash guy, but it's not the only option.

[100proof]

We got a contributor in Grant Williams this year. Last year Donte DiVincenzo was a rotation piece for MIL. The year before that, John Collins was picked 19th. Year before, Malik Beasley and Caris LeVert went 19/20.

So, I disagree categorically with the notion that we can't find a 10-20 MPG contributor at the 17th pick.

That's not to say Ainge won't draft a "project" or an overseas stash guy, but it's not the only option.

A contributor and a impact player though are 2 very different things.

I think Carey can fill the Kanter roll off the bench and be a 10-20 minutes per game guy from the get go for example. But in the history of picks 15-22 I wouldnt say that there has been many instances of a player making an immediate impact. Starter level 30 mins a game impact.

[Celts17Pride]

Theo Maledon is my initial choice at #17. Kid would look real nice next to Tatum and Brown in a few years.

[Darth Celtic]

Theo Maledon is my initial choice at #17. Kid would look real nice next to Tatum and Brown in a few years.

I highly doubt that pick doesn't end up 12-14.

[Celts17Pride]

Theo Maledon is my initial choice at #17. Kid would look real nice next to Tatum and Brown in a few years.

I highly doubt that pick doesn't end up 12-14.

If Ainge loves him he has two useless first round picks (27,30) he can try and use to move up. That's for any player he likes.

[greenroom31]

I have no idea what number people are ranked in theory at this point, but a guy I like is Jalen Smith out of Maryland: https://umterps.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/jalen-smith/8178

PERSONAL: Son of Charles and Orletha Smith...Father is retired Navy officer and was a big fan of Maryland legend Len Bias...Nickname is “Stix”...Chose Maryland over Syracuse, Villanova, Virginia, Duke and Arizona…Committed to Maryland because of friendship with Darryl Morsell and coaching staff...Sports hero is Kobe Bryant...Career goal is to play in the NBA...Alternative career would be computer programming...If he could play a different sport would play tennis...Majoring in information science.

[100proof]

Theo Maledon is my initial choice at #17. Kid would look real nice next to Tatum and Brown in a few years.

If the thought is to get a PG then RJ Barret needs a strong look at.

Or Halliburton

[djFan71]

Anyone have thoughts on Jahmi'us Ramsey? NBA Draft-room has him 10th, others a lot lower - in our range.
What caught me was their comp: "Marcus Smart+".

6'4", 6'10" wingspan. "Has a nose for the ball and brings a lot of energy. Can play on or off the ball and is a warrior on the court."

[100proof]

Anyone have thoughts on Jahmi'us Ramsey? NBA Draft-room has him 10th, others a lot lower - in our range.
What caught me was their comp: "Marcus Smart+".

6'4", 6'10" wingspan. "Has a nose for the ball and brings a lot of energy. Can play on or off the ball and is a warrior on the court."

Love him. Posted earlier today about really leaning towards him if he dropped.

I like Ramsey at memphis pick.
Tyler bey at ours


And amar sylla in the second or bucks pick.

Kid is so much like smart. Its scary. Better offense right now than Marcus had coming out of school. Not the playmaker though, more of a scorer.

Smart and ramsey and potetially bey at pg/sg/sf off the bench is foolish. The defense is gamechanging.

Allows for a pure scorer off the bench in the frontcourt cause defense 1-3 is crazy

[100proof]

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[Celts17Pride]

I also think Devin Vassell could be a steal in this draft.

[djFan71]

Anyone have thoughts on Jahmi'us Ramsey? NBA Draft-room has him 10th, others a lot lower - in our range.
What caught me was their comp: "Marcus Smart+".

6'4", 6'10" wingspan. "Has a nose for the ball and brings a lot of energy. Can play on or off the ball and is a warrior on the court."

Love him. Posted earlier today about really leaning towards him if he dropped.

I like Ramsey at memphis pick.
Tyler bey at ours


And amar sylla in the second or bucks pick.

Kid is so much like smart. Its scary. Better offense right now than Marcus had coming out of school. Not the playmaker though, more of a scorer.

Smart and ramsey and potetially bey at pg/sg/sf off the bench is foolish. The defense is gamechanging.

Allows for a pure scorer off the bench in the frontcourt cause defense 1-3 is crazy

Sorry, missed that earlier post. Bey has me intrigued too, Patrick Williams as well. All just reading, not watching though.
Also, don't forget Romeo in that bench group of yours.

[100proof]

Anyone have thoughts on Jahmi'us Ramsey? NBA Draft-room has him 10th, others a lot lower - in our range.
What caught me was their comp: "Marcus Smart+".

6'4", 6'10" wingspan. "Has a nose for the ball and brings a lot of energy. Can play on or off the ball and is a warrior on the court."

Love him. Posted earlier today about really leaning towards him if he dropped.

I like Ramsey at memphis pick.
Tyler bey at ours


And amar sylla in the second or bucks pick.

Kid is so much like smart. Its scary. Better offense right now than Marcus had coming out of school. Not the playmaker though, more of a scorer.

Smart and ramsey and potetially bey at pg/sg/sf off the bench is foolish. The defense is gamechanging.

Allows for a pure scorer off the bench in the frontcourt cause defense 1-3 is crazy

Sorry, missed that earlier post. Bey has me intrigued too, Patrick Williams as well. All just reading, not watching though.
Also, don't forget Romeo in that bench group of yours.

I think Ramsey is ahead of him if selected, so he would be fighting for minutes against Bey, but I think Bey wins that battle atleast for next year.

Bey is older but does a good few things very well.

Solid shooter, takes good shots, excellent defender and rebounder.

[djFan71]

Love him. Posted earlier today about really leaning towards him if he dropped.

I like Ramsey at memphis pick.
Tyler bey at ours


And amar sylla in the second or bucks pick.

Kid is so much like smart. Its scary. Better offense right now than Marcus had coming out of school. Not the playmaker though, more of a scorer.

Smart and ramsey and potetially bey at pg/sg/sf off the bench is foolish. The defense is gamechanging.

Allows for a pure scorer off the bench in the frontcourt cause defense 1-3 is crazy

Sorry, missed that earlier post. Bey has me intrigued too, Patrick Williams as well. All just reading, not watching though.
Also, don't forget Romeo in that bench group of yours.

I think Ramsey is ahead of him if selected, so he would be fighting for minutes against Bey, but I think Bey wins that battle atleast for next year.

Bey is older but does a good few things very well.

Solid shooter, takes good shots, excellent defender and rebounder.

Hopefully in his 2nd year Romeo can outplay a late 20s/30 pick rookie, but who knows? I was actually talking play all 4. A little short, but crazy wingspans. Put them around a center and let them destroy the passing lanes.

[100proof]

Sorry, missed that earlier post. Bey has me intrigued too, Patrick Williams as well. All just reading, not watching though.
Also, don't forget Romeo in that bench group of yours.

I think Ramsey is ahead of him if selected, so he would be fighting for minutes against Bey, but I think Bey wins that battle atleast for next year.

Bey is older but does a good few things very well.

Solid shooter, takes good shots, excellent defender and rebounder.

Hopefully in his 2nd year Romeo can outplay a late 20s/30 pick rookie, but who knows? I was actually talking play all 4. A little short, but crazy wingspans. Put them around a center and let them destroy the passing lanes.

Smart
Ramsey
Romeo
Bey
Tinelord

Interesting

[Smog]

This draft is getting ripped by all of the experts, but to me it looks like that's because there are so few scorers. It's actually full of players of the type Ainge has had success with, defense-first "instigators" who might be undervalued because of shooting numbers. From Marcus Smart to Tony Allen to Jaylen Brown to Perk -- even Semi was a decent pick for a second-rounder -- Ainge has done pretty well with guys who defend and hustle.

There are a LOT of these dudes in this draft. Some are getting a lot of love, like Devin Vassell, Isaac Okoro, Onyeka Okongwu, etc. but there are many more down in the draft. Paul Reed looks like a classic Ainge player. Ashton Hagans, Tillman... I don't know if Oscar Tshiebwe is coming out, but he's about as instigator-y as they come.

The great thing about this current version of the Celtics is, they don't need more stars or more scoring. They need high-level role players. Ainge's record at drafting stars is mixed, but he's usually able to get decent NBA rotation players with enough tries, and what the Cs need right now happens to be the exact kind of player he has an eye for. I actually wonder if that's why he didn't make a move at the deadline, because he likes the selection.

[100proof]

I do think that Danny targets a point guard in this draft, Edwards is a dud, waters can be the third guard on the roster, and I cannot see a financial way to keep brad signed cheap.

So that leaves draft.

Right now at the memphis pick players that could be around that spot(or perhaps a trade up in an instance or 2)

RJ Hampton

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Killian Hayes

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Tyrese Haliuburton

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IMO Haliburton would be a great addition to grow with the Jays and come up behind Kemba.


Also, every day I fall more in love with Jahmius Ramsey

A really Danny type of guy, tough, defensive aggression,

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The thought of him and smart on the court together lets me sleep like a baby at night.