Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 2

[Parliament10]

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Quick reminder to not fall down the rabbit hole of constantly watching the news or social media on this. Do something productive if you can. Was a facebook trend of posting landscapes without explanation, and while I passed on that, here's a gallery for you to enjoy or not.

https://imgur.com/a/nLrM92I

So much this.

I don't even check local media anymore just the worldofmeters once a day, The Australian specific meters once a day and if any new government restrictions come in I read about them.

Everything else is just rubbish (as in some of it's obviously true and some is complete bull but why have it on your mind 100% of the time?)

[Captain_Caveman]

Quick reminder to not fall down the rabbit hole of constantly watching the news or social media on this. Do something productive if you can. Was a facebook trend of posting landscapes without explanation, and while I passed on that, here's a gallery for you to enjoy or not.

https://imgur.com/a/nLrM92I

So much this.

I don't even check local media anymore just the worldofmeters once a day, The Australian specific meters once a day and if any new government restrictions come in I read about them.

Everything else is just rubbish (as in some of it's obviously true and some is complete bull but why have it on your mind 100% of the time?)

I'm locked down with my wife and kids in a relatively sparsely populated area, and enough funds to handle it all. That has its own challenges, but I do feel for those who are truly isolated or in situations that are less tenable. There for anyone who wants to reach out, as best I am able. Even just to talk... have never had an issue breaking down the wall from internet to real life. Many have been surprised that I am actually a super nice guy IRL lol.

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Quick reminder to not fall down the rabbit hole of constantly watching the news or social media on this. Do something productive if you can. Was a facebook trend of posting landscapes without explanation, and while I passed on that, here's a gallery for you to enjoy or not.

https://imgur.com/a/nLrM92I

So much this.

I don't even check local media anymore just the worldofmeters once a day, The Australian specific meters once a day and if any new government restrictions come in I read about them.

Everything else is just rubbish (as in some of it's obviously true and some is complete bull but why have it on your mind 100% of the time?)

I'm locked down with my wife and kids in a relatively sparsely populated area, and enough funds to handle it all. That has its own challenges, but I do feel for those who are truly isolated or in situations that are less tenable. There for anyone who wants to reach out, as best I am able. Even just to talk... have never had an issue breaking down the wall from internet to real life. Many have been surprised that I am actually a super nice guy IRL lol.

Nuh I know you are, next time when you're down here or I'm over there we can catch up to prove it hahaha

But of course feel for people who don't have the funds to handle it and worry about their parents etc.... it's really hard on so many people.

[24SecondRule]

https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/

Another concern: 1 in 5 patients may have cardiac damage.

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https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/

Another concern: 1 in 5 patients may have cardiac damage.

Scary stuff. Many possibilities. Not mysterious.
Viral myocarditis and/or stress related acute MI at the head of the list.
As if viral-related ARDS & cytokine storm were not catastrophic enough.

Also getting a bunch of new literature in my inbox every single day about the potential endocrine consequences of COVID-19 (especially related to patients with preexisting primary or secondary hypoadrenalism, &, not surprisingly, enhanced predilection to infection amongst patients being treated with ‘steroids’ [specifically glucocorticoids] for many non-endocrine diseases).

Also, there are implications for the innumerable patients being treated wit ARBs/ACEis for hypertension - which paradoxically actually may be beneficial - stay tuned on this.

This is unreal.
World is exploding.

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Crossposted from the Current Affairs thread:

I haven't driven my car for a couple of weeks, and will take it out for exercise at some point even without having anywhere to go.

That reminds me that, even with AAA memberships, it's good to own some kind of jump starter, especially since they double as general batteries in time of blackout.

I've been fantastically happy with the brand GOOLOO 800A, which is periodically discounted on Amazon and costs only $70 even at full price. (It's small and light enough to easily keep in the car, and can do multiple starts without running out of juice.) Perhaps others are as good or better. But for many people, I'd advise getting some product like that if you don't have it already.

[Slax]

Some positive news: daily death count, number of new hospitalizations, and % increase in ICU utilization all declined on Sunday in New York. Too early to tell if we're past the peak or if it's a statistical anomaly, but either way in conjunction with prior days' data they appears to be a trend of slowing growth, suggesting that social distancing and increasingly stringent city and state directives are working. Not out of the woods yet: next we will find out if we started slowing growth early enough that we will have the capacity to ride out the hospitalization peak that will come some time soon.

Editing to add: don't be surprised if there's an uptick again in today's or tomorrow's stats. The point isn't about any one day. It's that we are seeing a trend of things slow down from absurd double digit exponential growth to more manageable single digit growth, and eventually that will become no growth or decline.

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[Green89]

I can't understand why the data isn't showing where each new case picked up the virus. This would be extremely important info for everyone to know, as it will show where the loopholes are as far as lockdowns and social distancing. Is it corona house parties? Churches? Health care workers? Workers still going to work and picking it up in thier workplace or on public transit? The public needs to know this info! If it's public transit and people are still going to work, they need to be policing whether these people are going to essential jobs or not.

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https://apple.news/AZt1fkAG0TW68kZR1sfEFpA

[Dave_From_NB]

I can't understand why the data isn't showing where each new case picked up the virus. This would be extremely important info for everyone to know, as it will show where the loopholes are as far as lockdowns and social distancing. Is it corona house parties? Churches? Health care workers? Workers still going to work and picking it up in thier workplace or on public transit? The public needs to know this info! If it's public transit and people are still going to work, they need to be policing whether these people are going to essential jobs or not.

An awful lot of information is withheld due to privacy legislation where the rights (privacy) of the individual outweigh the right to know of the public - IMO sometimes it's because of the actual legislation, and sometimes it's because officials are hiding behind it because they don't want to tell us. I think this is one of those areas that is going to have to undergo scrutiny after this thing is over.

[threrf23]

I can't understand why the data isn't showing where each new case picked up the virus. This would be extremely important info for everyone to know, as it will show where the loopholes are as far as lockdowns and social distancing. Is it corona house parties? Churches? Health care workers? Workers still going to work and picking it up in thier workplace or on public transit? The public needs to know this info! If it's public transit and people are still going to work, they need to be policing whether these people are going to essential jobs or not.

An awful lot of information is withheld due to privacy legislation where the rights (privacy) of the individual outweigh the right to know of the public - IMO sometimes it's because of the actual legislation, and sometimes it's because officials are hiding behind it because they don't want to tell us. I think this is one of those areas that is going to have to undergo scrutiny after this thing is over.

In fairness, in at least some cases, there are people making an effort to identify and contact and test those who had been in contact with someone who tested positive. There's just no reason to air that out publicly.

Perhaps it might be beneficial to organize a database of such info. But, that's assuming people can know where they contracted the virus. And I'm not sure it is necessary; this thing is airborne and spreads like the flu, you shouldn't need a doctorate or scientific proof to figure out where and how it is most likely to spread.

Oh, and the other problem, you actually have to test people for the virus, to know who has it, and figure this stuff out. Check this guy's story (cliffs: 44 year old guy, sent by Verizon to do some work at a hospital in Manhattan, experienced a sudden onset of symptoms one week later, and immediately called the hotline to be tested. He had to spend five hours on the phone in order to schedule a test seven days later. He got turned away from urgent care / emergency rooms in the mean time, while in self quarantine he began to struggle to breathe, wife called 911, 911 refused an ambulance, she drove him to the hospital and he passed shortly after)

[SuperDeluxe]

If you want to know how your community is doing in terms of social distancing, you might want to take a look at Google's Community Mobility Reports: https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Someone here in Quebec prepared a graph combining the parks and retail data for Canadian provinces and U.S. states: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159662070678502&set=gm.2491468971114982&type=3&theater
(The information, which is from April 2, was taken from the Google reports I linked to above. Higher percentage is better.)

Can someone confirm that the Facebook image is visible?

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[Parliament10]

If you want to know how your community is doing in terms of social distancing, you might want to take a look at Google's Community Mobility Reports: https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Someone here in Quebec prepared a graph combining the parks and retail data for Canadian provinces and U.S. states: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159662070678502&set=gm.2491468971114982&type=3&theater
(The information, which is from April 2. was taken from the Google reports I linked to above. Higher percentage is better.)

Can someone confirm that the Facebook image is visible?

I can see the Facebook image, but it's hard to read.

[SuperDeluxe]

If you want to know how your community is doing in terms of social distancing, you might want to take a look at Google's Community Mobility Reports: https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Someone here in Quebec prepared a graph combining the parks and retail data for Canadian provinces and U.S. states: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159662070678502&set=gm.2491468971114982&type=3&theater
(The information, which is from April 2. was taken from the Google reports I linked to above. Higher percentage is better.)

Can someone confirm that the Facebook image is visible?

I can see the Facebook image, but it's hard to read.

Thank you. If you make it full screen, it becomes much more legible.

[Dave_From_NB]

I can't understand why the data isn't showing where each new case picked up the virus. This would be extremely important info for everyone to know, as it will show where the loopholes are as far as lockdowns and social distancing. Is it corona house parties? Churches? Health care workers? Workers still going to work and picking it up in thier workplace or on public transit? The public needs to know this info! If it's public transit and people are still going to work, they need to be policing whether these people are going to essential jobs or not.

An awful lot of information is withheld due to privacy legislation where the rights (privacy) of the individual outweigh the right to know of the public - IMO sometimes it's because of the actual legislation, and sometimes it's because officials are hiding behind it because they don't want to tell us. I think this is one of those areas that is going to have to undergo scrutiny after this thing is over.

In fairness, in at least some cases, there are people making an effort to identify and contact and test those who had been in contact with someone who tested positive. There's just no reason to air that out publicly.

Perhaps it might be beneficial to organize a database of such info. But, that's assuming people can know where they contracted the virus. And I'm not sure it is necessary; this thing is airborne and spreads like the flu, you shouldn't need a doctorate or scientific proof to figure out where and how it is most likely to spread.

The officials certainly have this information, at least initially and until the amount of work to accumulate it becomes overwhelming. At least in my Province they report on how many cases are travel, how many are close acquaintances, how many are community spread, how many are still being investigated. They are diving into every case - they just tell us about them in a high level.

[Dave_From_NB]

In a somewhat more uplifting and fun message, have you folks got wind of the "Stay the Blazes Home" messages? Premier of Nova Scotia said that during a press conference where he was clearly pissed off at people not social distancing. Some of the outflow actions are pretty fun. Scroll down to the Instagram post.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/premier-s-stay-the-blazes-home-inspires-viral-songs-memes-clothes-1.4884584

[claycarver]

If you want to know how your community is doing in terms of social distancing, you might want to take a look at Google's Community Mobility Reports: https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Someone here in Quebec prepared a graph combining the parks and retail data for Canadian provinces and U.S. states: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159662070678502&set=gm.2491468971114982&type=3&theater
(The information, which is from April 2. was taken from the Google reports I linked to above. Higher percentage is better.)

Can someone confirm that the Facebook image is visible?

Is this graph showing me how much people are moving, or how much LESS people are moving relative to the distances they moved, say, a month ago?

If it's just telling me that people in, say, Washington DC travel more miles per day than people in Arkansas, that's not helpful.