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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#101 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:38 pm

Bohemian wrote:Brad is doing an amazing job by getting rid of our awful bench from last year. He has also made the team better defensively, taller, tougher, more balanced and less selfish.

So far, 8 players are gone from last year's awful season:

Walker
Fournier
Thompson
Kornet
Ojeleje
Edwards
Waters
Fall


Payton Pritchard must be feeling very lonely as the last of the smurfs.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#102 » by playa-hater » Sat Sep 4, 2021 3:25 pm

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Bohemian wrote:Brad is doing an amazing job by getting rid of our awful bench from last year. He has also made the team better defensively, taller, tougher, more balanced and less selfish.

So far, 8 players are gone from last year's awful season:

Walker
Fournier
Thompson
Kornet
Ojeleje
Edwards
Waters
Fall


Payton Pritchard must be feeling very lonely as the last of the smurfs.


I still remember PP playing some 3 -man with 2 other smaller teammates in the same lineup. #funtimes :o :-? :D
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#103 » by Half-Full » Sat Sep 4, 2021 3:38 pm

Bohemian wrote:Brad is doing an amazing job by getting rid of our awful bench from last year. He has also made the team better defensively, taller, tougher, more balanced and less selfish.

So far, 8 players are gone from last year's awful season:

Walker
Fournier
Thompson
Kornet
Ojeleje
Edwards
Waters
Fall


In addition, even after losing Kemba and Fournier, I don't think we have lost anything on the offensive end. As you say, we are a more balanced team, and I expect that balance will result in more offense from our second unit. We know what Schroder brings, and I think it is reasonable to expect more from Pritchard and Nesmith. Juancho and Grant may not be expected to put up a lot of points, but I think they can reasonably be expected to contribute more scoring than what Ojeleye and Thompson were giving. While one might expect that Walker and Fournier would score more than Richardson and Horford, I don't think the difference will be that great, and any shortfall will be greatly mitigated by the defensive skills Richardson and Horford bring to the table.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#104 » by TommyForever » Sat Sep 4, 2021 9:22 pm

This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#105 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Sep 4, 2021 9:27 pm

TommyForever wrote:This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.


Tatum has been the number one option the last two seasons, both by shots/usage, and how defenses defend him. That’s exactly why I expect him to be even better this year, he now knows exactly what being “the guy” entails.
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Post#106 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Sep 4, 2021 9:46 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Simmons would be perfect with the Clippers. Too bad they're out of assets to make an interesting offer.

Yeah I mean, Mann is a good young talent. Reggie Jackson is a PG who can distribute and score, which Philly needs.

Keon Johnson is a young wing with high upside they just took in the 1st round, who many had projected a lottery pick.

So a package of Mann + Jackson + Keon + multiple 1st round picks isn't terrible. But I'm sure there's another team could make a better offer..


Mann and Jackson would be really nice gets for Philly. Both looked good in the POs


The Clips don't have a lot of 1sts to trade right now, although they could presumably at least offer one in 2028, plus a 2027 swap.
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Post#107 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Sep 4, 2021 9:56 pm

Bohemian wrote:Brad is doing an amazing job by getting rid of our awful bench from last year. He has also made the team better defensively, taller, tougher, more balanced and less selfish.

So far, 8 players are gone from last year's awful season:

Walker
Fournier
Thompson
Kornet
Ojeleje
Edwards
Waters
Fall


Centers aside, the departures are all guys whose actual or projected future merit was almost exclusively at one end of the floor.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#108 » by TommyForever » Sun Sep 5, 2021 12:30 pm

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TommyForever wrote:This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.


Tatum has been the number one option the last two seasons, both by shots/usage, and how defenses defend him. That’s exactly why I expect him to be even better this year, he now knows exactly what being “the guy” entails.


We can’t act like Kyrie and Kemba weren’t taking shots from Tatum. He is THE guy now.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#109 » by 1st banana » Mon Sep 6, 2021 2:21 am

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Curmudgeon wrote:
Bohemian wrote:Brad is doing an amazing job by getting rid of our awful bench from last year. He has also made the team better defensively, taller, tougher, more balanced and less selfish.

So far, 8 players are gone from last year's awful season:

Walker
Fournier
Thompson
Kornet
Ojeleje
Edwards
Waters
Fall


Payton Pritchard must be feeling very lonely as the last of the smurfs.


I still remember PP playing some 3 -man with 2 other smaller teammates in the same lineup. #funtimes :o :-? :D

You mean no more payton at power forward with tremont Carson and kemba?
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#110 » by 1st banana » Mon Sep 6, 2021 2:25 am

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TommyForever wrote:This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.


Tatum has been the number one option the last two seasons, both by shots/usage, and how defenses defend him. That’s exactly why I expect him to be even better this year, he now knows exactly what being “the guy” entails.


We can’t act like Kyrie and Kemba weren’t taking shots from Tatum. He is THE guy now.

I have him ahead of Zion for sure and close to or equal with Luka he’s a much better shooter and defender than both of them.

Tatums had somewhat slow starts to the last two years too with last year being partly covid related. I see him really getting off to a better start this year and still making his seasonal spring/late winter ascension.
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Post#111 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Sep 6, 2021 1:50 pm

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Post#112 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Sep 6, 2021 7:54 pm

Notice, by the way, that it is Ojeleye's movement without the ball that makes the play work.
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Post#113 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Sep 6, 2021 10:38 pm

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per usual with Jaylen, open by 5 yards. It's uncanny how teams let him be wide open like they do. I've never seen anything like it. If you watch a highlight film of his threes they're all similar to this. Literally 5 feet or more open when he catches the ball. I wonder if defenses will finally learn and defend him better now that he's proven he can beat them from deep consistently.
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Post#114 » by Dogen » Tue Sep 7, 2021 12:52 am

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per usual with Jaylen, open by 5 yards. It's uncanny how teams let him be wide open like they do. I've never seen anything like it. If you watch a highlight film of his threes they're all similar to this. Literally 5 feet or more open when he catches the ball. I wonder if defenses will finally learn and defend him better now that he's proven he can beat them from deep consistently.


It's uncanny how you can suck out the joy from this board on a clearly epic moment for the Celtic's young player.

But, you know, I guess Utah's strategy was to simply give Brown that extra 5 yards to take an open shot with the game on the line, cuz that's just the plan.
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Post#115 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Sep 7, 2021 1:39 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Notice, by the way, that it is Ojeleye's movement without the ball that makes the play work.

Our young guys can execute a drawn-up ATO play esp when opposing team doesn't know what's coming or are programmed to react to an ATO setup a certain way (Brad is a wizard in anticipating how opposing teams defend ATO plays). Semi can move/cut if he's told where to go.

We kinda suck at read-and-react on the fly. So when opponents snuff out options 1 and 2, we become stagnant and resort to iso.

We'd probably the top offensive team in the league if Stevens had 100 timeouts every game.
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Post#116 » by SatchSanders » Tue Sep 7, 2021 2:34 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Notice, by the way, that it is Ojeleye's movement without the ball that makes the play work.

I’m really interested in seeing how Milwaukee uses Ojeleye. I think Budenholzer will really like him as a big 3&D, replacing much of what Tucker provided.
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Post#117 » by Bohemian » Tue Sep 7, 2021 7:22 am

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Curmudgeon wrote:Notice, by the way, that it is Ojeleye's movement without the ball that makes the play work.

I’m really interested in seeing how Milwaukee uses Ojeleye. I think Budenholzer will really like him as a big 3&D, replacing much of what Tucker provided.


We are talking about Semi here. We need training camp to arrive, it´s getting embarrassing :lol:
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Post#118 » by Triple7 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 7:45 am

TommyForever wrote:This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.


Nah Tatum was the clear number 1 since kyrie left. He was already all nba in the bubble season. Zion is not better than him right now.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#119 » by TommyForever » Tue Sep 7, 2021 10:18 am

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TommyForever wrote:This is the first season where Tatum, Brown, and Smwrt have the keys to the ship. Tatum has been compared to all the top young players. Most put him behind only Zion and Luka. Both Zion and Luka have been the number one option on their teams. Tatum hasn’t yet. I think he makes a fairly big jump this year. You may remember this same group was a game away from the finals two seasons ago.


Nah Tatum was the clear number 1 since kyrie left. He was already all nba in the bubble season. Zion is not better than him right now.


He was but Kemba definitely took a lot of shots away from him.
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Post#120 » by Floody100 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 11:08 am

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per usual with Jaylen, open by 5 yards. It's uncanny how teams let him be wide open like they do. I've never seen anything like it. If you watch a highlight film of his threes they're all similar to this. Literally 5 feet or more open when he catches the ball. I wonder if defenses will finally learn and defend him better now that he's proven he can beat them from deep consistently.


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