Post-Game Notes: BOS 134, NYK 138 (OT, 0-1)

[Celts17Pride]

Tatum hasnt been shooting well during the pre season so this atrocity of a performance is not that shocking , but its concerning.

Honestly it’s not even concerning. Tatum’s recent struggles shooting is worry #247 on the list of things the Celtics need to worry about.

[Feed Your Head]

:nonono:

I truly feel that Brown will be our leading scorer this year. He plays with versatility where Tatum settles for the outside shot more times than not. I don't expect Tatum to be a post up player but I wish he would go back to what he did well when he started his NBA career.......a solid mid range game. He has to have the same mindset as Paul Pierce.......get to the free throw line multiple times per game.

Tatum drove to the hoop more and drew more fouls than Jaylen last season. Tatum dropped 50+ four times in the last 6 weeks of last season lol, while being the most double teamed front court player in the league.

Your post is the very definition of recency bias.

Mind you, he was talking/writing in future tense.
That's not recency bias.

So he’s basing it off of one game? Instead of an entire prior season sample size?

Of course it was recency bias lol

[Fierce1]

My biggest concern is Pritchard and Nesmith not getting enough minutes.

Smart and Schroder in the game at the same time in crunch time is not ideal.

[CelticPride44]

:nonono:

Tatum drove to the hoop more and drew more fouls than Jaylen last season. Tatum dropped 50+ four times in the last 6 weeks of last season lol, while being the most double teamed front court player in the league.

Your post is the very definition of recency bias.

Mind you, he was talking/writing in future tense.
That's not recency bias.

So he’s basing it off of one game? Instead of an entire prior season sample size?

Of course it was recency bias lol

Pretty ironic how I said the same thing last year vs. the Knicks.........You can leave you apology at the door.....I'll collect it later!!!

[jonige94]

Tatum hasnt been shooting well during the pre season so this atrocity of a performance is not that shocking , but its concerning.

Honestly it’s not even concerning. Tatum’s recent struggles shooting is worry #247 on the list of things the Celtics need to worry about.

You're probably right, i'm just concerned at what point his bulking up will have any impact on his shooting performance later on, hopefully none.

[Dannyboy36]

I’m glad the smart point guard experiment ended after a few possessions in 1st qtr. horrible. Jaylen should be the point guard.

[Fierce1]

I don't think Tatum was trying to do too much in this game.

He just kept missing open shots.

It's just a case of one those nights.

Trying to do too much is forcing shots.

That was not the case in this game.

[Dannyboy36]

Jaylen worked on his handle like crazy yet again. Tatum is gonna be amazing but he needs to take a leap in that dept so Celts are t watching him take these high difficulty shots . He’s one of best at making them but it should t be necessary. Bad shots.

[Blaze4G]

I think knicks size killed us. As mention the switch everything didn't work when Dennis or Payton had to switch onto randle/ robinson.

Imo we win this game with ease if horford plays.

Was upset with Tatum at times when he continued shooting. However, there has been many games he started with horrible shooting and he kept shooting and caught fire so I guess I shouldn't blame him for keep trying. Unfortunately this wasn't one of those nights.

[Fierce1]

I think knicks size killed us. As mention the switch everything didn't work when Dennis or Payton had to switch onto randle/ robinson.

Imo we win this game with ease if horford plays.

Was upset with Tatum at times when he continued shooting. However, there has been many games he started with horrible shooting and he kept shooting and caught fire so I guess I shouldn't blame him for keep trying. Unfortunately this wasn't one of those nights.

True.

Celts win if Horford played.

[Garbanzo]

:nonono:

Tatum drove to the hoop more and drew more fouls than Jaylen last season. Tatum dropped 50+ four times in the last 6 weeks of last season lol, while being the most double teamed front court player in the league.

Your post is the very definition of recency bias.

Mind you, he was talking/writing in future tense.
That's not recency bias.

So he’s basing it off of one game? Instead of an entire prior season sample size?

Of course it was recency bias lol

That's making an assumption (prolly incorrect) over a small sample size. That is NOT recency bias.
For example, saying Marcus Smart shot poorly in this game from 3 is recency bias, as someone may remmember his misses more boldly (marcus ended the game 5-11 from 3).

[Feed Your Head]

:nonono:

Mind you, he was talking/writing in future tense.
That's not recency bias.

So he’s basing it off of one game? Instead of an entire prior season sample size?

Of course it was recency bias lol

Pretty ironic how I said the same thing last year vs. the Knicks.........You can leave you apology at the door.....I'll collect it later!!!

It wasn’t close to true last year, and it’s still not. But have fun with the hot take, the entire league, other coaches, and all basketball writers would disagree.

What a weird attempt at a victory lap.

[24istheLAW]

The defensive side of the ball was concerning. The switching is not gonna work.

It's only one game, but it feels like we went from Brad micromanaging the defensive side of the ball and just not coaching offense, to getting a coach who holds the players to standards on offense but doesn't coach defense well.

I don't care about Tatum missing open shots. That'll correct itself. Ball movement was consistently good. Jaylen was incredible and has made yet another leap. And he should have taken more shots but was going out of his way to try and get Tatum in rhythm.

[Fantaxp7]

Exciting but tough week so far for Boston sports.

Not too worried about the loss in terms of how it reflects this team. Tatum though, that was rough...He shows up and we win easily. Horford plays and it's no question we win. So as a whole I am not scared of the Knicks and their improvements. Tough loss and to squander that JB performance.

[philing00]

Tatum is so overrated. If his shots not falling, he ain’t got no plan B. He and Brown and are on the same tier and I’d rather take Brown because he’s more consistent and he wont lose you games like Tatum. Why didn’t Brown have the iso at the end of the second OT?! Brown would’ve had 10 assists if his teammates hit all their open 3s. Tatum has blinkers on still.
Does a trade of Tatum and Timelord or Smart for Trae and Collins work?

[ddb]

Obviously a fun game to watch. Atmosphere seemed awesome at MSG. Below are my notes on the game.

#1- JB was unreal. We keep talking about how he seems to work on his game each offseason and comes back a better player. If the preseason and game 1 are any indication of what we can expect from Jaylen this season, he could very well be in for an All-NBA caliber season. His handle is SO MUCH BETTER than it used to be. Like a 6'6 Chris Paul handling the ball last night. His vision and passing looked much better. He looked way more shifty... Granted it was a phenomenal game, but very encouraging stuff out of JB.

#2- On the flip side Tatum just couldn't make a shot. I thought he played fine otherwise. If he makes 5 more shots he would have had a 30pt night. Just a brutal night shooting the ball. I'm not worried about him....I just don't think he had it. And we all know it a lot of ways it's a make or miss league.

#3- Celts win this game if Horford and Richardson are available. The Celtics lost this game because they went stagnate in a few stretches. They could have used a veteran presence like Al to help calm things down. That's the most underrated part about Al's game. He never panics...When the crowd is loud, Al can make the right play and help guide his teammates. So he was missed last night.....Celts also could have used another 6'6 wing defender to throw on Fournier. So I think if Al/JRich are in uniform we are talking about a regulation time win for the Celts.

#4- Looks like the kids are much more prepared and ready to contribute this season. Romeo looks ready (finally), Grant was solid, and even though Pritch & Nesmith didn't do much, I still have a lot of confidence that they will help this team plenty throughout the season.

#5- Depth, Depth, Depth. This team finally has the depth I think it needs to make a deep run. Especially if #4 holds true. Hermangomez, Kanter didn't even sniff the floor in a double OT game where the team was already without Horford/JRich. That means the rotation (at least for now) is Smart/JB/JT/Al/RWill with DS/Pritch/Romeo/JRich/Nesmith/Grant/JH all pushing for minutes. And don't panic on Schroder. He will be fine. He wasn't making shots last night, but it's very obvious that he knows how to play.

#6-Looking ahead the Celts have a favorable schedule over the next couple of weeks. Despite the loss last night, there's no reason this team can't run off 4 out of 5 or 5 straight moving forward.

[ddb]

Tatum is so overrated. If his shots not falling, he ain’t got no plan B. He and Brown and are on the same tier and I’d rather take Brown because he’s more consistent and he wont lose you games like Tatum. Why didn’t Brown have the iso at the end of the second OT?! Brown would’ve had 10 assists if his teammates hit all their open 3s. Tatum has blinkers on still.
Does a trade of Tatum and Timelord or Smart for Trae and Collins work?

[ddb]

Jaylen worked on his handle like crazy yet again. Tatum is gonna be amazing but he needs to take a leap in that dept so Celts are t watching him take these high difficulty shots . He’s one of best at making them but it should t be necessary. Bad shots.

Yes. I agree. Tatum is at his best when he gets a few early buckets driving to the basket or posting up....Then working his way out to the 3pt line from there. He needs to be watching a lot more film on Kevin Durant. That's the player he needs to model his game after.

[ddb]

My biggest concern is Pritchard and Nesmith not getting enough minutes.

Smart and Schroder in the game at the same time in crunch time is not ideal.

Smart is going to drive me absolutely crazy as our starting PG. Just think, he played pretty well last night....and he still was driving me nuts.

[Matt5]

Unfortunate disparity tonight.
Jaylen had the most points to open in NBA history!
Tatum negated it by his historically bad performance.
23% FG 13% 3PT 30 shots?
Smart and Schroeder don’t shoot great, we knew that. Tatum started this season flat in MSG, where many get up to play.

I know it is 1 game in a long season. I am sure Tatum will respond. That was a tough one to lose.