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If we are talking about free passes how about Jaylen Brown, he who had .495 TS% while tied for team lead in shot attempts.

“If you keep playing with your food, at some point the food might just play with you.” — Sun Tzu

It’s a real quote. No need to look it up. JT needs to have that tattooed on his body.

I expect nothing but a bounce back win tonight. White and Holiday need to step up as they were quite abysmal last time around.

31to6 wrote:

bisme37 wrote:Admittedly I wasn't watching the 4th quarter super closely because I started writing the postgame thread once it looked like we were headed toward a loss. But unless Tatum was extremely terrible while I wasn't paying attention I'm honestly confused about all the blame he's getting. He was the best Celtic on the floor during the other 3 quarters and we lost that game because of poor team defense and poor team shooting. So yeah I'm kinda wondering what I missed.

Derrick White has gotten the biggest free pass for a guy shooting 1-8 from 3 and getting roasted on defense several times.

I understand that shooting performance is overdue regression to the mean for him.

If you ask me White shot 3s far more tightly contested than the usual games. Cleveland did say they were going to run the Celtics off the 3 point line. Pump fake the shot, drive and recreate if necessary. Make or miss, I want to see quality shot selections. Didn't see many last game. Dumb offense can lead to lazier defense.

8 games into not worrying about Tatum’s shot. It’s not a concern at all. Those shots will fall eventually. Most likely today. It is written. The correction is due. JT will make his shots. It’s a guarantee. Not worried one bit. Tour dates are over. Cavs are ****.

It's been 44 hours or whatever since we last lost.. And I still cannot believe.We got blown out at home.to that team with that roster. Like two years ago against golden state and last year to miami.. This is actually aging worse over time..

Cleveland is tough.

I wish I could be positive but I foresee a 3-1 deficit heading back to Boston.

Don’t have an assassin like Paul Pierce that would take matters into his own hands or anyone that could outplay the best players on a given night.

Paul Pierce has that aura, Ant does, Jamal Murray does, Luka does. None of our current players do.


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yeah Ant would never lose a playoff game at home

Just for fun, let's look at how the playoff assassin Paul Pierce performed in his age 26 season.
0-4 sweep by the Pacers, shot 34.2% for the series. 25 turnovers in 4 games.

Yeah what a joke, Paul Pierce couldn’t beat Jermaine O Neal, Reggie Miller, Al Harrington and Ron Artest with a star-studded supporting cast of Mark Blount and Jiri Welsch.

Poor Tatum only gets to play alongside Jaylen Brown Derrick White and Jrue Holiday.


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Scarletfire81 wrote:

lon3lytoaster wrote:

Scarletfire81 wrote:People need to chill out on JT, he will give everything he has when all the chips are on the table. I think the Celtics haven’t really be tested this season which caused somewhat of a laid back approach at times. I think they need a wake up call & last game might have done it, we’ll see.

The “needs a wake up call” card is an interesting one given that they’ve ignored multiple wake up calls in the last two post seasons. At some point you have to just be awake, and they’re lead by a guy content to coast and have things handed to him.

It’s not good that this team has let downs but I’m not giving up on JT. Now if we lose the next couple games, I will have some serious concerns, especially if he plays bad. But I’m not at that point yet.

As if the last two post season isn’t enough. He was talking about the losses, especially last season. How he was excited for the playoffs to start, and he’s treating this post season like a pre season game. No fire, no will to win. Like one poster said, he’s kind of floating out there. The cavs threw single coverage out there against JT, so thry could close out on our shooters, and he can’t even deliver. That’s not what supposed superstars do. I think he’s starting to lose confidence in himself, and it shows in his body language and the way he talks post game.

Could be a bloodbath in the game thread tonight.

White better take over the game or else

fallguy wrote:Could be a bloodbath in the game thread tonight.

It gets disgusting. I agree that the team should be much better than they were last game and I too have my doubts about this team but its still bad when we lead by 20 lol. There is an unrealistic expectation of perfection which won't stop until we win a title, maybe not even then.

fallguy wrote:One thing we need to keep in mind - if JT is regularly standing in a corner or unmoving on the wing by strategic design, that's on Joe (whether you like that choice or not).

I thinknits on both Joe and JT. I also saw a play where Jt passed the ball to DWhite in the corner 3. Dwhite had the opportunity to attack the basket, but opted to chuck a 3, and bricked it bad. **** that!!!
If he attacked the basket, and JT also got inside, he could easily have passed it to JT for dunk, or a simple mid range shot uncontested. Instead, he jacked off a shot fast, and missed with no chance for an offensive rebound. That’s on Joe. Probably said to chuck 3’s as a priority on offense. Sick of it.


The **** everyone is just standing outside watching. No one even tried to cut inside. The cavs probably wants us to shoot contested 3’s all game. That’s why they play Tatum single coverage game 2. They know he’s shooting poorly, so why double???
Until JT gets it going, it will be hard to win.

Triple7 wrote:

fallguy wrote:One thing we need to keep in mind - if JT is regularly standing in a corner or unmoving on the wing by strategic design, that's on Joe (whether you like that choice or not).

I thinknits on both Joe and JT. I also saw a play where Jt passed the ball to DWhite in the corner 3. Dwhite had the opportunity to attack the basket, but opted to chuck a 3, and bricked it bad. **** that!!!
If he attacked the basket, and JT also got inside, he could easily have passed it to JT for dunk, or a simple mid range shot uncontested. Instead, he jacked off a shot fast, and missed with no chance for an offensive rebound. That’s on Joe. Probably said to chuck 3’s as a priority on offense. Sick of it.

The **** everyone is just standing outside watching. No one even tried to cut inside. The cavs probably wants us to shoot contested 3’s all game. That’s why they play Tatum single coverage game 2. They know he’s shooting poorly, so why double???
Until JT gets it going, it will be hard to win.

White was open in the corner. Open corner three is one of the best shots in the game.
There were no cutting angles. What would White cutting baseline accomplish? They are already sagging off. If White drove the close out and Tatum also cut, maybe we get a better shot but probably not because open corner three is a better scoring opportunity than basically anything that's not an open layup or free throws. Also that's not drop coverage.
The play was to get Tatum on Mitchell, which resulted in the defense shifting up to prevent Tatum drive, leaving White open in the corner. It worked exactly as intended and the open three was missed.
In any case when you diagram a play as you did where three players move to the same spot that's probably not leading to success.

KingofTheClay wrote:Yeah what a joke, Paul Pierce couldn’t beat Jermaine O Neal, Reggie Miller, Al Harrington and Ron Artest with a star-studded supporting cast of Mark Blount and Jiri Welsch.

Poor Tatum only gets to play alongside Jaylen Brown Derrick White and Jrue Holiday.


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Reggie Miller who was 38. Al Harrington? Lmao. In any case I thought real stars were supposed to win no matter what the supporting cast did. That's why we are roasting Tatum whose superstar cast had .495 TS% (Jaylen), 1-8 from the three (White), and shot 28.6% from the field for 4 points (Jrue). Can't believe you are pulling out the supporting cast card lmfao.

BK_2020 wrote:

Triple7 wrote:

fallguy wrote:One thing we need to keep in mind - if JT is regularly standing in a corner or unmoving on the wing by strategic design, that's on Joe (whether you like that choice or not).

I thinknits on both Joe and JT. I also saw a play where Jt passed the ball to DWhite in the corner 3. Dwhite had the opportunity to attack the basket, but opted to chuck a 3, and bricked it bad. **** that!!!
If he attacked the basket, and JT also got inside, he could easily have passed it to JT for dunk, or a simple mid range shot uncontested. Instead, he jacked off a shot fast, and missed with no chance for an offensive rebound. That’s on Joe. Probably said to chuck 3’s as a priority on offense. Sick of it.

The **** everyone is just standing outside watching. No one even tried to cut inside. The cavs probably wants us to shoot contested 3’s all game. That’s why they play Tatum single coverage game 2. They know he’s shooting poorly, so why double???
Until JT gets it going, it will be hard to win.

White was open in the corner. Open corner three is one of the best shots in the game.
There were no cutting angles. What would White cutting baseline accomplish? They are already sagging off. If White drove the close out and Tatum also cut, maybe we get a better shot but probably not because open corner three is a better scoring opportunity than basically anything that's not an open layup or free throws. Also that's not drop coverage.
The play was to get Tatum on Mitchell, which resulted in the defense shifting up to prevent Tatum drive, leaving White open in the corner. It worked exactly as intended and the open three was missed.
In any case when you diagram a play as you did where three players move to the same spot that's probably not leading to success.

Nope. White ended up taking a contested 3. Ifbhe opted to attack inside, that would have been an easy jumper for him, or a lob to a teaamate. My point was why always chuck a 3. They are down, try taking higher percentage shots, not jack off the 1st available 3, especially if shooting was off all night.
Our guys are lazy af. Always trying for the home run when down. Too lazy to grind it out.

Calling it, this is our first playoff game this season going to crunch time

Memokerobi wrote:Calling it, this is our first playoff game this season going to crunch time

I hope not. Can't say I have a ton of faith in them in that situation. Seems like these guys are either on one or they lose.