Celts Win Photo Finish In Motor City! Victory Cigar vs DET 10/26

[Bad-Thoma]

Can you see the problem?

Jrue Holiday 76 TS% => 18 FGA
Al Horford 74 TS% => 19 FGA
Derrick White 70 TS% => 38 FGA
Jayson Tatum 69 TS% => 64 FGA
Payton Pritchard 60 TS% => 29 FGA
Jaylen Brown 53 TS% => 62 FGA

The only problem I see here is lack of context and sample size. Both JB and JT are facing regular double teams and the full attention of the defense. Their ability to score and willingness to score despite this is why everyone else has a higher percentage of open looks and set shots. If they were playing off of someone else who was a bigger threat to score with the ball in their hands their percentages would be higher as well but the team isn't built that way.

The only concern I have so far is the defense has been lacksadaisical at times but I'm confident that will build with the season.

[Stan34]

Jaylen haters come up big after a W over the Pistons. He had 24 pts, 10 R (two big ones in the clutch), 5A and only 2 TO. Plus 11, second best on the team but when it's about him +/- don't count. A great defensive possession on Cade late in the game. 9/10 from the line and two of them to seal the game. Great drive and kick game. He played some lazy offense when we were in control of the game. That's it.
And remember, Jrue, White and so on have space cause of the jays presence.

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[darrendaye]

[bisme37]

I was also annoyed by JB's shot selection last night but who the hell cares. We won the game and dude is the reigning finals MVP. So I mean, we know he can play better. Sometimes you have a weird game.

[Homerclease]

I was also annoyed by JB's shot selection last night but who the hell cares. We won the game and dude is the reigning finals MVP. So I mean, we know he can play better. Sometimes you have a weird game.

A lot of people were off last night. Holiday was a disaster until the final 5 minutes. One of Kornets worst games in awhile too.

[djFan71]

Serious question. Is there anyone who is OK playing 8 players in game 3 of a long season?

My guess is that Joe punished them for blowing the lead. You break it, you fix it.

Agreed. I’d prefer the alternative, personally. Put in bench guys and see if they can turn it around with energy. How much are we really teaching the starters at this point? Sitting them and watching the bench either save them - or make things much worse - is an equal learning experience. With the benefit of getting other guys that need time out there.

We probably don’t go any deeper against the Bucks tomorrow either. Unless Hauser flies out, or it’s a blowout. It’s not a huge deal since nobody played crazy minutes, but it would be nice to give the deeper bench a chance.

[djFan71]

Oh, and I went Tatum and Jrue.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Serious question. Is there anyone who is OK playing 8 players in game 3 of a long season?

It's better to play 8 guys in October to stack up wins early and have the possibility to rest guys down the stretch than to have a 12 man rotation early on, drop games you shouldn't and be forced to play your top 8 players 40 minutes a night in March/April. Besides it's not like they were overly taxed by the previous two games (or the amount of effort they put in tonight).

I am not advocating for a twelve man lineup... But eight is the extreme on the other end.even if stacking up wins early is the main goal, I jus dont see how Queta for and example hurts that cause..same for Walsh playing in the 2nd quarter..

My belief is a 9 man.Rotation or ten may actually strengthen our ability to win. All while getting players like Queta and Walsh more experience down the road in case of injuries.

Because they are significantly worse than any player that saw the floor for the Celtics in that game. Considering it was like a tie game with a minute to go, it's not crazy to think that giving even a few minutes to worse players during the course of the game would have flipped the outcome.

Fun fact, the minutes for all five starters are down from last year (significantly so in Tatum's and Holiday's case) and the Celtics are unbeaten. Seems to me that Mazzulla is doing a great job of balancing winning and keeping guys fresh for a long playoff run. That's the part that matters. Whether the bench minutes are distributed between three, four or five guys so we can say we run a rotation with x, y or z number of players in it doesn't really matter.

[exculpatory]

Can you see the problem?

Jrue Holiday 76 TS% => 18 FGA
Al Horford 74 TS% => 19 FGA
Derrick White 70 TS% => 38 FGA
Jayson Tatum 69 TS% => 64 FGA
Payton Pritchard 60 TS% => 29 FGA
Jaylen Brown 53 TS% => 62 FGA

Problem seems to be the lack of relevant sample size

I think the problem is that Brown is still an "idiot" and always will be. Much like Westbrook, even after winning MVP, never became self aware and kept on making the same selfish mistakes. Brown wants to be a star like Tatum and he just isn't. I firmly believe that Tatum, White and Porzingis are our best three players, almost every statistic supports that notion by the way. Because Holiday and Horford know who they are and play their roles accordingly to support the team, there's even a case to be made that Brown is not part of the Celtics best starting five.

Tatum, Holiday and White were part of the Olympics team. Brown wasn't. But instead of being humbled and learn why that was, he just felt insulted and didn't learn a thing. That FMVP might also be a bad thing. Guys like Iguodala appreciated it, but still knew to keep deferring to the real stars, I have zero confidence Brown will be doing that.

Last night a couple of times Pritchard was open, but Brown just took the 3-point-shot from the dribble. I honestly believe Brown doesn't know that Pritchard is a better shooter than him. He has no clue.

++++
**** idiot.

[playa-hater]

It's better to play 8 guys in October to stack up wins early and have the possibility to rest guys down the stretch than to have a 12 man rotation early on, drop games you shouldn't and be forced to play your top 8 players 40 minutes a night in March/April. Besides it's not like they were overly taxed by the previous two games (or the amount of effort they put in tonight).

I am not advocating for a twelve man lineup... But eight is the extreme on the other end.even if stacking up wins early is the main goal, I jus dont see how Queta for and example hurts that cause..same for Walsh playing in the 2nd quarter..

My belief is a 9 man.Rotation or ten may actually strengthen our ability to win. All while getting players like Queta and Walsh more experience down the road in case of injuries.

Because they are significantly worse than any player that saw the floor for the Celtics in that game. Considering it was like a tie game with a minute to go, it's not crazy to think that giving even a few minutes to worse players during the course of the game would have flipped the outcome.

Fun fact, the minutes for all five starters are down from last year (significantly so in Tatum's and Holiday's case) and the Celtics are unbeaten. Seems to me that Mazzulla is doing a great job of balancing winning and keeping guys fresh for a long playoff run. That's the part that matters. Whether the bench minutes are distributed between three, four or five guys so we can say we run a rotation with x, y or z number of players in it doesn't really matter.

I am not sure Queta is "significantly worse than Kornet" Plus Queta played quite well in the previous game.

[Celticfan_N_FL]

Can you see the problem?

Jrue Holiday 76 TS% => 18 FGA
Al Horford 74 TS% => 19 FGA
Derrick White 70 TS% => 38 FGA
Jayson Tatum 69 TS% => 64 FGA
Payton Pritchard 60 TS% => 29 FGA
Jaylen Brown 53 TS% => 62 FGA

Problem seems to be the lack of relevant sample size

I think the problem is that Brown is still an "idiot" and always will be. Much like Westbrook, even after winning MVP, never became self aware and kept on making the same selfish mistakes. Brown wants to be a star like Tatum and he just isn't. I firmly believe that Tatum, White and Porzingis are our best three players, almost every statistic supports that notion by the way. Because Holiday and Horford know who they are and play their roles accordingly to support the team, there's even a case to be made that Brown is not part of the Celtics best starting five.

Tatum, Holiday and White were part of the Olympics team. Brown wasn't. But instead of being humbled and learn why that was, he just felt insulted and didn't learn a thing. That FMVP might also be a bad thing. Guys like Iguodala appreciated it, but still knew to keep deferring to the real stars, I have zero confidence Brown will be doing that.

Last night a couple of times Pritchard was open, but Brown just took the 3-point-shot from the dribble. I honestly believe Brown doesn't know that Pritchard is a better shooter than him. He has no clue.

I see one of 3 Jaylen haters started a new account.

I wonder which one it could be.

[Tatumfor2]

Problem seems to be the lack of relevant sample size

I think the problem is that Brown is still an "idiot" and always will be. Much like Westbrook, even after winning MVP, never became self aware and kept on making the same selfish mistakes. Brown wants to be a star like Tatum and he just isn't. I firmly believe that Tatum, White and Porzingis are our best three players, almost every statistic supports that notion by the way. Because Holiday and Horford know who they are and play their roles accordingly to support the team, there's even a case to be made that Brown is not part of the Celtics best starting five.

Tatum, Holiday and White were part of the Olympics team. Brown wasn't. But instead of being humbled and learn why that was, he just felt insulted and didn't learn a thing. That FMVP might also be a bad thing. Guys like Iguodala appreciated it, but still knew to keep deferring to the real stars, I have zero confidence Brown will be doing that.

Last night a couple of times Pritchard was open, but Brown just took the 3-point-shot from the dribble. I honestly believe Brown doesn't know that Pritchard is a better shooter than him. He has no clue.

I see one of 3 Jaylen haters started a new account.

I wonder which one it could be.

Are we sure it's not one with 4 accounts?