hugepatsfan wrote:165bows wrote:hugepatsfan wrote:IMO, Brad assess the roster and determined he doesn’t have the means to trade for the guys he things this roster is gonna need around Tatum/Brown. Maybe he can get lucky with a home run pick in the 20s/30s or an out of nowhere breakout signing/trade acquisition. But I don’t think he looks at it and feels he has a good chance of getting what he needs.
Giannis/Tatum would have been a better duo to try with, but I think he had similar reservations still because ultimately you’re still top heavy with 2 players. That’s why he was limited in how much extra he would add.
IMO, the reason Brown is still reportedly in talks because he just thinks he needs to break Brown down into 2-3 really good players. Maybe not in the Brown trade itself but in relatively short order through a series of follow up trades.
Just my opinion, but I think he’s gone. I think they’ll get a package that isn’t amazing but good enough for Brad to feel he can built a contender easier that way then trying to add key pieces without any real asset base to deal from.
That’s the big question at this point, is why.
Really could be any or a combo of any of the following:
They don’t want to extend him now and he wants out
He wants out to be the ‘man’ (lame imo)
Ownership is cheap now (tbd)
Impossible to build a winner with 2 super maxes (maybe)
Something else
I think the “why” is because he looks at the roster as needing two good starting caliber players and this is a league where a Trey Murphy type has a 3 first round pick asking price. How are you going to send out value for two of that? And that’s not even getting into the salary matching aspects. We have that TPE which fits Murphy which is why he gets discussed a lot in ideas here even if we keep Brown, but how many actual starting caliber players are even attainable with that TPE who will realistically be moved? How would we match salary for the second starter we need even if we can find one with the TPE? And only needing two starters is based on White’s bad shooting last year being a fluke and him not declining even though he’s 32 - because if he does decline now we need value for 3 starters.
This is speculation but my opinion is he just looks at it as a kind of futile effort and if he keeps Tatum/Brown he won’t be able to get a championship supporting cast behind them so it’s just be a bunch of 2nd round exits year after year. And he’d rather go the riskier route of trading Brown and trying to build it back up because it’s not like they’re gonna suck or not be able to keep making the playoffs in the meantime.
Just my opinion. He’d rather be a 1st round playoff exit but feel he has moves to make to get better vs a 2nd round exit and feel trapped there.
Yea, it’s very hard to build a team with two forwards making Jays money… from a far, there also seems an additional layer of division on top of that, with Joe and JT on one side, and Jaylen Brown on the other.
JB has made comments that, I would assume, didn’t land well with them guys, and those guys have made no public statements of support saying “we’re keeping Jaylen Brown, we will figure this out” … but the “why” is not 100% apparent, but it seems more than team building under the cap rules
