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Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1001 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:29 am

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Are we sure about that? LeBron can play PF just fine.

Not a chance


Maybe, but I bet LeBron would lobby for it lol.


Chris Paul would too. He did threaten to leave for the Rockets as a FA unless the Clips hired Doc away from the Celtics. Wouldn't shock me at all if he walked into Ballmer's office and asked for Melo.

I think Melo might even be a better fit than Griffin at the 4 anyhow. Clips play better when they space the floor and just run CP3/DJ pick and rolls.
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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1002 » by Avalanche » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:49 am

18 months ago, if this comes up there's a real chance we could've swooped in and gotten Love. A title and an easy road back to the finals now, no way

Surely neither GM is foolish enough to give up Griffin or Love for Melo, but we should stay involved.. just in case
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Post#1003 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:02 am

Avalanche wrote:18 months ago, if this comes up there's a real chance we could've swooped in and gotten Love. A title and an easy road back to the finals now, no way

Surely neither GM is foolish enough to give up Griffin or Love for Melo, but we should stay involved.. just in case


Griffin won't because hes a good GM. Can't say the same about Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson.

Never underestimate the power of the banana boat buddies. CP3 wanted to team up with Melo and mentioned it during a speech at Melo's wedding.

With that being said, Phil is probably smart enough to keep Griffin and cut us out completely. Lol
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Post#1004 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:19 am

FWIW, Cleveland and LA would both be better if they replaced their power forwards with Melo.
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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1005 » by Captain_Caveman » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:23 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Avalanche wrote:18 months ago, if this comes up there's a real chance we could've swooped in and gotten Love. A title and an easy road back to the finals now, no way

Surely neither GM is foolish enough to give up Griffin or Love for Melo, but we should stay involved.. just in case


Griffin won't because hes a good GM. Can't say the same about Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson.

Never underestimate the power of the banana boat buddies. CP3 wanted to team up with Melo and mentioned it during a speech at Melo's wedding.

With that being said, Phil is probably smart enough to keep Griffin and cut us out completely. Lol


Griffin might have something to say about that.
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Post#1006 » by claycarver » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:59 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Avalanche wrote:18 months ago, if this comes up there's a real chance we could've swooped in and gotten Love. A title and an easy road back to the finals now, no way

Surely neither GM is foolish enough to give up Griffin or Love for Melo, but we should stay involved.. just in case


Griffin won't because hes a good GM. Can't say the same about Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson.

Never underestimate the power of the banana boat buddies. CP3 wanted to team up with Melo and mentioned it during a speech at Melo's wedding.

With that being said, Phil is probably smart enough to keep Griffin and cut us out completely. Lol


Griffin might have something to say about that.


No way he steps into that mess in New York.
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Post#1007 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:22 am

claycarver wrote:
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Griffin won't because hes a good GM. Can't say the same about Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson.

Never underestimate the power of the banana boat buddies. CP3 wanted to team up with Melo and mentioned it during a speech at Melo's wedding.

With that being said, Phil is probably smart enough to keep Griffin and cut us out completely. Lol


Griffin might have something to say about that.


No way he steps into that mess in New York.


It's not that much of a mess as you might think. Once we shed ourselves of Melo's contract, we can sign another young forward to team up with KP and then draft a stud PG with a strong second half tank. I like some of the other pieces Phil acquired like O'Quinn, Kuzminskis, Hernangomez, Ron Baker and Justin Holiday. I like Courtney Lee too, but he'd be a real nice piece on a winning team, so hopefully, he'll bring back something nice as well.

That said, I'm not that excited about getting Griffin. Though I think he'd love NYC.
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Re: Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice! 

Post#1008 » by Captain_Caveman » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:44 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
claycarver wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Griffin might have something to say about that.


No way he steps into that mess in New York.


It's not that much of a mess as you might think. Once we shed ourselves of Melo's contract, we can sign another young forward to team up with KP and then draft a stud PG with a strong second half tank. I like some of the other pieces Phil acquired like O'Quinn, Kuzminskis, Hernangomez, Ron Baker and Justin Holiday. I like Courtney Lee too, but he'd be a real nice piece on a winning team, so hopefully, he'll bring back something nice as well.

That said, I'm not that excited about getting Griffin. Though I think he'd love NYC.


They are definitely a mess, and tanking this year not likely to do much for them.

No idea why teams like the Knicks and Bulls went out of their way to build veteran teams with a .500 ceiling. Just makes no sense at all.

I think the Melo development is potentially good news for you, but he has a no-trade and I don't see the market for him being strong at all. If I am them, I dump Melo, Noah and Rose for anything or even nothing at all, and do the dirty work of collecting high lottery picks for a few years in the hopes that you will be able to eventually add some talent to Porzingis.

And if you are really lucky, Phil will get bored and quit so you can get a real GM in there. Would seem to be a desirable job if you could get someone strong enough to save Dolan from himself.
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Post#1009 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:55 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:FWIW, Cleveland and LA would both be better if they replaced their power forwards with Melo.


LAC dont have very many assets. Cleveland dont have any at all. I guess there's a slight possibility LAC can make that trade happen. Just my opinion, but Melo is not better than Griffin, he's never been. A healthy Griffin in top form is the best PF if not the 2nd best PF in the game.
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Post#1010 » by Ed Pinkney » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:03 pm

Melo has a large trade kicker too.
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Post#1011 » by 165bows » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:05 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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klemen4 wrote:Melo, Crowder to lac
Griffin, Pierce to bos
Amir, Zeller, brk 18 to ny

Clippers are not trading Griffin for Melo. Doc Rivers is the GM. Not happening


True, but what about the other rumored team Melo would accept a trade to?

Melo to Cavs
Love to Boston
Amir/Zeller/BKN 18 top 3 protected to Knicks

These new traded pick protection rules are the key here.

This is a weird situation and one that there is real potential to take advantage of someone. Not sure how to word the pick protection but I'd hope for even better than that.
Edit - Looking at it, I'd say something like:

Crowder, Anthony, LAC pick back to LAC
Amir, Zeller, Wes Johnson, top-5 protected Brk pick to NY ('17 or '18, then if not conveyed turns to maybe the MEM pick)
Griffin, Pierce to Boston

Pretty good lineup for LAC, really. Paul, Redick, Crowder, Melo, Griffin is a pretty ideal modern lineup.

Plus Ainge usually hooks his guys up, so Crowder to LA is a pretty good situation.
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Post#1012 » by bceltic55 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:11 pm

Melo is not waiving his no trade clause.
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Post#1013 » by 165bows » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:14 pm

bceltic55 wrote:Melo is not waiving his no trade clause.

Why not? Big fat raise, better team, better everything really, to go to LA.
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Post#1014 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:21 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:FWIW, Cleveland and LA would both be better if they replaced their power forwards with Melo.

You sound like a Knicks fan. No.
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Post#1015 » by bceltic55 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:27 pm

Melo will not play PF, loves the spotlight of NY. He wants to see Jackson gone.
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Post#1016 » by Gomes3PC » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:38 pm

Melo is basically untradeable thanks to his kicker, NTC and deteriorating skills, plus he's likely not interested in playing the position he should going forward full time (PF, instead of SF).

GM Doc is just never gonna do a deal with Blake either. That team is just stuck in a rinse-wash-repeat cycle and will be until/unless one of Griffin/Paul leaves. At that point, Doc will bail and some poor new coach/GM will be left holding the bag on a shell of a franchise with no assets outside of DAJ.
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Post#1017 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:43 pm

bceltic55 wrote:Melo will not play PF, loves the spotlight of NY. He wants to see Jackson gone.


Even if Jackson is gone- that Noah contract sucks ass... Noah should've retired- not get signed to a 4 year deal/~18 mils/year .. That team is **** and Melo was never good enough to be a N1 on a championship team. I've actually doubted his drive to be good for the past 2-3 years as he seems somewhat fat/out of shape and his athletic ability has regressed big time.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1018 » by TheOGJabroni » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:10 pm

I really can't see him going to Cleveland. As it's been mentioned, LA is more desirable in terms of location for his family and Cleveland is rolling right now. They're SF & PF are phenomenal, there's no real place for him there unless they moved Love and that will not happen for Melo.

Clippers on the other hand, makes sense to some degree. He can pair with CP3 and they could use a legitimate threat on the wing. They don't really have the pieces needed to make a deal, but I do wonder if we could get involved here.
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Post#1019 » by chrisab123 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:42 pm

165bows wrote:
bceltic55 wrote:Melo is not waiving his no trade clause.

Why not? Big fat raise, better team, better everything really, to go to LA.


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Post#1020 » by tlee324 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:14 pm

NYC is a true treadmill team at the moment. Stuck.
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