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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1001 » by Patsfan1081 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:20 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:If Jaylen is your #2 then the team isn't very good and we're going nowhere. If we've learned anything this season it's this. He was the 4th best player on the court today but yet people think he's all-NBA.


Disagree totally. He’s 50% from the floor(and has been excellent from midrange), and yeah he does get tunnel vision but at least he attacks the basket and doesn’t settle for as many low percentage shots like Tatum. He needs to trust his teammates more but it’s difficult with that surrounding cast, but you can see by his assist numbers going up he’s trying. What’s noticeable is the times he’s touching the ball the least seem to be the fourth when the team struggles the most. The media had him as a all star starter and you guys think he should be a fourth option... :noway:
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1003 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:30 am

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BostonCouchGM wrote:If Jaylen is your #2 then the team isn't very good and we're going nowhere. If we've learned anything this season it's this. He was the 4th best player on the court today but yet people think he's all-NBA.


Disagree totally. He’s 50% from the floor(and has been excellent from midrange), and yeah he does get tunnel vision but at least he attacks the basket and doesn’t settle for as many low percentage shots like Tatum. He needs to trust his teammates more but it’s difficult with that surrounding cast, but you can see by his assist numbers going up he’s trying. What’s noticeable is the times he’s touching the ball the least seem to be the fourth when the team struggles the most. The media had him as a all star starter and you guys think he should be a fourth option... :noway:


Him and Tatum both settle for low percentage shots, Jaylen just was unsustainably hot early in the season from midrange. And for all the talk of Jaylen attacking the basket, Tatum now gets to the line more, and leads the team in drives to the rim per game.

Jaylen is struggling trying to adjust to his mid range shot crashing back to earth, and it’s leading to a ton of awkward shots in the paint. I have no doubts he will figure it out, but it needs to start with being more aggressive at the rim, and taking more threes. He has a 30% USG in the 4th, pretty much in line with the first three quarters.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1004 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:21 pm

An NBA player's prime years are usually age 27-31. It is during those years when talent, experience, maturity, and consistency all intersect. It is at that age you usually get the best a player has to offer.

Jaylen is 24.

Jayson is 22.

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Post#1005 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:28 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:An NBA player's prime years are usually age 27-31. It is during those years when talent, experience, maturity, and consistency all intersect. It is at that age you usually get the best a player has to offer.

Jaylen is 24.

Jayson is 22.

Just sayin.

Well you just hope when they reach their prime, they're still with the Cs. Player empowerment era sucks. Good for the players, sucky for Boston which is not exactly the place superstars want to form a superteam in.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1006 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:36 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:An NBA player's prime years are usually age 27-31. It is during those years when talent, experience, maturity, and consistency all intersect. It is at that age you usually get the best a player has to offer.

Jaylen is 24.

Jayson is 22.

Just sayin.

Well you just hope when they reach their prime, they're still with the Cs. Player empowerment era sucks. Good for the players, sucky for Boston which is not exactly the place superstars want to form a superteam in.


Yep. That is the risk in the game Danny is playing. Jaylen will enter his prime during the course of this extension. We will see what complementary talent he is surrounded with as that happens. The development of Jaylen, much like the ascension of this team may or may not be linear.

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Post#1007 » by KGtabake » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:33 pm

I stick with what i've said in the past.
I like him more than JT. He's the only guy on that team aside smart, who gives me the impression that he gets pissed off when we suck.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1008 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:55 pm

KGtabake wrote:I stick with what i've said in the past.
I like him more than JT. He's the only guy on that team aside smart, who gives me the impression that he gets pissed off when we suck.


I don't think that JT cares any less at all but Jaylen is more extroverted while JT is more introverted. They express things in different ways. Matter of preference so I get it.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1009 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:28 pm

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BostonCouchGM wrote:If Jaylen is your #2 then the team isn't very good and we're going nowhere. If we've learned anything this season it's this. He was the 4th best player on the court today but yet people think he's all-NBA.


Disagree totally. He’s 50% from the floor(and has been excellent from midrange), and yeah he does get tunnel vision but at least he attacks the basket and doesn’t settle for as many low percentage shots like Tatum. He needs to trust his teammates more but it’s difficult with that surrounding cast, but you can see by his assist numbers going up he’s trying. What’s noticeable is the times he’s touching the ball the least seem to be the fourth when the team struggles the most. The media had him as a all star starter and you guys think he should be a fourth option... :noway:


while his offense has definitely improved, it's been almost completely offset by his declining defense. I think this is why it's been a zero sum game and hasn't resulted in us having a better record. If he was truly a top 20 player like people believe, and combined with Tatum we had two top 20 players, then we'd be better than a .500 team. It's as simple as that. There's enough of a supporting cast that two top 20 players should be able to have us playing better. Maybe this also means Tatum isn't quite the top 10 player some believe as well.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1010 » by La Flame » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:14 pm



According to Woj, Jaylen is getting major props from GM's around the league
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Post#1011 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:20 am

congrats to Jaylen on making the all-star team. I'll eat crow as I honestly never saw this happening. Kid has really become an elite scorer. I hope his defense and playmaking catch up so he becomes all-NBA
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Post#1012 » by Floody100 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:47 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:congrats to Jaylen on making the all-star team. I'll eat crow as I honestly never saw this happening. Kid has really become an elite scorer. I hope his defense and playmaking catch up so he becomes all-NBA


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While inconsistent his playmaking has definitely improved. His defence on the other hand has taken a step back this year though. He’s only 24 so I believe he’ll figure it out.
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Post#1015 » by cl2117 » Sat Mar 6, 2021 8:46 pm

This is the smallest of gripes, but I've noticed lately Jaylen has a real tendency to take his time getting back on D after drives to the basket with no-calls and him ending up flat out on the baseline. Like I get it, he just went through contact and down hard on the hardwood and you gotta take a moment to gather yourself, but I feel like he can really dog it sometimes.

Again it's the smallest of gripes given everything else he's done well.

I just feel like both Jaylen and Jayson have let some things slip, particularly on the defensive end, but obviously understandable with the injuries they've suffered and the condensed schedule. Just wasn't sure if I was the only one noticing.
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Post#1016 » by LoquaciousLarry » Sat Mar 6, 2021 10:24 pm

Jaylens ceiling is all NBA first team in my opnion. He's got the ability to be the best two way shooting guard in the league. Even as a rookie when his skillset dribbling was limited he was always smart to kick the ball back out and take smart shots within the flow of the offense. As he's become a star, his shot selection can be less disciplined at times but he's also a tough shot maker.

Reminds me of a smaller/young Kawhi Leonard, poor mans Kobe Bryant. He's been my favorite Celtic since we drafted him though so I could be biased. I think his mind is his greatest asset, coming from a family where his dads a 7'0 boxing champ and his brother played football but lacked academic discipline, Jaylen seems to have his head in the right place and is a diligent worker.

Sky is the limit, I wouldn't trade him. I'm glad Ainge passed on Harden and PG13.
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Re: What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling? 

Post#1017 » by Feed Your Head » Sun Mar 7, 2021 4:31 pm

Part of this is his knee, but it’s also course correction from being better from midrange than prime MJ for the first 15 games lol.

First 15 games he averaged just under 27 on 56% shooting, the last 18 games he’s averaged 22.5 on 47/33/70 splits. I think somewhere in between is close to what we can expect going forward from Jaylen, something like 23/24 on really good, but not elite efficiency. He will definitely get that percentage from three closer to the high 30s than 33, but otherwise these last 18 games have pretty much been in line with his career shooting splits.

More importantly, I hope they’re really careful with his knee in the second half, I’d rather finish a seed lower than risk him having knee issues going forwards
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Post#1018 » by JediMasterRevan » Mon Mar 8, 2021 2:28 pm

Watching him in the 3pt comp yesterday and was remembering how so many people claimed he was a/and will remain a terrible shooter.
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Post#1019 » by jfs1000d » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:42 pm

Jaylen is a dynamic no. 2 on a title team.


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Post#1020 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:14 am



He's rested. He's rejuvenated. He's inspired by being surrounded by so many great players during AS game. I think we're going to see an even more improved Jaylen in the 2nd half. I do wish he goes back to more finishing/catch-and-shoot/go, leaving the playmaking/ballhandling to Smart, PP, Kemba, and Tatum.

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