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We are not likley to be keeping all the picks, but we need to use one on a big, Kanter is not on a long term contract and Thies has been great but has durability issues and is only under contract for 1 more year. That leaves us wtih Grant williams, way undersized and RW who has not stayed healthy either despite showing some good promise recently. We need someone in the do it all role, somone who can stretch the floor and block shots, that won't be available later maybe we can find someone at 14
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Y'all like guards?
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Poku for me (80% complete bust, but I'd roll the dice). I'd figure he'll be useless for a year at least, and be three years from being something, though.
I'd be okay with Jalen Smith. Doesn't seem a very Danny style pick, but I could see the thinking.
Nesmith is one I've seen us projected to take, and he would be useful. For all the good shooting we have, a knock down floor spacer is definitely useful with our play style. Might not be able to rely on Hayward being on court moving forwards, who knows?
With the late picks I've been on Paul Reed all season, and see no reason to change.
I'd be okay with Jalen Smith. Doesn't seem a very Danny style pick, but I could see the thinking.
Nesmith is one I've seen us projected to take, and he would be useful. For all the good shooting we have, a knock down floor spacer is definitely useful with our play style. Might not be able to rely on Hayward being on court moving forwards, who knows?
With the late picks I've been on Paul Reed all season, and see no reason to change.
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Spin Move wrote:We are not likley to be keeping all the picks, but we need to use one on a big, Kanter is not on a long term contract and Thies has been great but has durability issues and is only under contract for 1 more year. That leaves us wtih Grant williams, way undersized and RW who has not stayed healthy either despite showing some good promise recently. We need someone in the do it all role, somone who can stretch the floor and block shots, that won't be available later maybe we can find someone at 14
I think that would be the thinking if we took Jalen Smith.
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LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Y'all like guards?
We definitely need one or two. Kira Lewis Jr, Maxey or Cole Anthony?
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reload141 wrote:LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Y'all like guards?
We definitely need one or two. Kira Lewis Jr, Maxey or Cole Anthony?
Did you get to see RJ or Ball at all during their season? No chance at Ball obviously, but RJ intrigues me with that burst.
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LewisnotMiller wrote:Poku for me (80% complete bust, but I'd roll the dice). I'd figure he'll be useless for a year at least, and be three years from being something, though.
I'd be okay with Jalen Smith. Doesn't seem a very Danny style pick, but I could see the thinking.
Nesmith is one I've seen us projected to take, and he would be useful. For all the good shooting we have, a knock down floor spacer is definitely useful with our play style. Might not be able to rely on Hayward being on court moving forwards, who knows?
With the late picks I've been on Paul Reed all season, and see no reason to change.
I think at 14 you go Cole Anthony or Poku..
For 26 I think you go Stuart or Smith if available. If Poku I go Malachi Flynn My preference would be to trade this pick for Nemanja Bjelcia but can’t see how to do it...
For 30 I go Paul Reed or Jaden McDaniels.
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100proof wrote:Dogen wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:
I did too cause i hate his archetype. But damnit, im tantalized by his raw tools. I see his archetype as similar to Porzingis with more passing vision. Im willing to take that risk— itll be basically our last chance to do so.
OK, pass the pipe man -- I'm all in!![]()
Yeah, I see a skinnier Porzingis with better handle and court vision. These videos are so selective and deceptive though in that it's really hard to gauge the level of the competition. The guy moves so freely to the hoop, but will an average NBA defender lock him up? I think the size and shooting ability is, like Porzingis, the thing that can be counted on. A guy 7' 3" with outside shooting is a definite asset, but it's not enough.
If the Celtics "bring him in" (is that how it works now, or are the workouts on Zoom?) and the Celtics feel that he has that Jaylen Brown/ Giannis / Porzingis work ethic, than by all means he could be a steal at 14. But, like Porzingis, if that is true he will probably move into the first half of the lottery once the news is out.
A concern I have is that the things that make him unique gets negated by putting on size. It has happened in the past this that Bargnani guy. Raptors made him bulk up and he lost everything unique about him.
Yes he’s not going to be a banger and that’s ok. Kukoc, or a rich man’s Bol Bol maybe.

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Dogen wrote:100proof wrote:Dogen wrote:
OK, pass the pipe man -- I'm all in!![]()
Yeah, I see a skinnier Porzingis with better handle and court vision. These videos are so selective and deceptive though in that it's really hard to gauge the level of the competition. The guy moves so freely to the hoop, but will an average NBA defender lock him up? I think the size and shooting ability is, like Porzingis, the thing that can be counted on. A guy 7' 3" with outside shooting is a definite asset, but it's not enough.
If the Celtics "bring him in" (is that how it works now, or are the workouts on Zoom?) and the Celtics feel that he has that Jaylen Brown/ Giannis / Porzingis work ethic, than by all means he could be a steal at 14. But, like Porzingis, if that is true he will probably move into the first half of the lottery once the news is out.
A concern I have is that the things that make him unique gets negated by putting on size. It has happened in the past this that Bargnani guy. Raptors made him bulk up and he lost everything unique about him.
Yes he’s not going to be a banger and that’s ok. Kukoc, or a rich man’s Bol Bol maybe.
Kukoc is so much better than this kid.
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100proof wrote:Dogen wrote:100proof wrote:
A concern I have is that the things that make him unique gets negated by putting on size. It has happened in the past this that Bargnani guy. Raptors made him bulk up and he lost everything unique about him.
Yes he’s not going to be a banger and that’s ok. Kukoc, or a rich man’s Bol Bol maybe.
Kukoc is so much better than this kid.
Well yeah. All I’m saying is he’s more of that type player than a guy who can put on a lot of size and muscle. He’s still young. Probably won’t be the next Kukoc but this is an upside pick and as I wrote earlier, it’s just an odious comparison.

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Maxey is a great fit for the next couple of years, but I can see them needing someone like Kira in 3 years when Kemba is 35 and Hayward is the same or has long been somewhere else.
If you have an offense with multiple initiators and don’t need him to run point, I question Kira Lewis’ finishing ability being sufficient enough to pass on Maxey.
If you have an offense with multiple initiators and don’t need him to run point, I question Kira Lewis’ finishing ability being sufficient enough to pass on Maxey.
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djFan71 wrote:reload141 wrote:LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Y'all like guards?
We definitely need one or two. Kira Lewis Jr, Maxey or Cole Anthony?
Did you get to see RJ or Ball at all during their season? No chance at Ball obviously, but RJ intrigues me with that burst.
I saw both down here and honestly they weren’t that impressive... but I mean they are playing a much more physical game than they would in College so I think it will benefit them greatly just being more prepared and ready for the NBA
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reload141 wrote:djFan71 wrote:reload141 wrote:
We definitely need one or two. Kira Lewis Jr, Maxey or Cole Anthony?
Did you get to see RJ or Ball at all during their season? No chance at Ball obviously, but RJ intrigues me with that burst.
I saw both down here and honestly they weren’t that impressive... but I mean they are playing a much more physical game than they would in College so I think it will benefit them greatly just being more prepared and ready for the NBA
Cool that you got to see em. That's the tough part when you got these kids playing in professional leagues internationally against grown me. I have no idea how to translate that to the NBA unless they're Luka or something.
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I want players who can shoot. So, no Maxey. Haven't even watched any film on him, and I don't plan to. I could live with Greg Anthony's kid. I have seen him. He's no Tyler Herro, but at least there's hope.
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Curmudgeon wrote:I want players who can shoot. So, no Maxey. Haven't even watched any film on him, and I don't plan to. I could live with Greg Anthony's kid. I have seen him. He's no Tyler Herro, but at least there's hope.
Maxey has pretty decent mechanics. Shot a good FT% at 83%. Some of the reason for his low numbers was shot selection among other things. He's probably a better shooter than he's shown.
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bucknersrevenge wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:I want players who can shoot. So, no Maxey. Haven't even watched any film on him, and I don't plan to. I could live with Greg Anthony's kid. I have seen him. He's no Tyler Herro, but at least there's hope.
Maxey has pretty decent mechanics. Shot a good FT% at 83%. Some of the reason for his low numbers was shot selection among other things. He's probably a better shooter than he's shown.
I got a really good feeling about Maxey as a pro. And like I mentioned earlier, I think he would love playing in our system.
A lot of drafts have him slipping, but I actually think he is gonna be gone by 14.
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If you had to rank 4 ballhandlers in terms of raw talent AND longterm fit in our particular system taking into account how Brad uses the primary ballhandler here, I'd love to hear how people would rank these 1-4:
Tyrese Maxey, Cole Anthony, Tyrell Terry, and Kira Lewis
This is an open question to any and all
Tyrese Maxey, Cole Anthony, Tyrell Terry, and Kira Lewis
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bucknersrevenge wrote:If you had to rank 4 ballhandlers in terms of raw talent AND longterm fit in our particular system taking into account how Brad uses the primary ballhandler here, I'd love to hear how people would rank these 1-4:
Tyrese Maxey, Cole Anthony, Tyrell Terry, and Kira Lewis
This is an open question to any and all
With Jaylen and Jayson in the lineup defending the other teams point guard while also being able to switch onto a 2 and being able to shoot 3's are more imporatant then being a great play maker in our offense where the assist get spread around.
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LewisnotMiller wrote:Spin Move wrote:We are not likley to be keeping all the picks, but we need to use one on a big, Kanter is not on a long term contract and Thies has been great but has durability issues and is only under contract for 1 more year. That leaves us wtih Grant williams, way undersized and RW who has not stayed healthy either despite showing some good promise recently. We need someone in the do it all role, somone who can stretch the floor and block shots, that won't be available later maybe we can find someone at 14
I think that would be the thinking if we took Jalen Smith.
The mocks I have been seeing have smith in the late 20's he would be a solid pick later but not at 14
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bucknersrevenge wrote:If you had to rank 4 ballhandlers in terms of raw talent AND longterm fit in our particular system taking into account how Brad uses the primary ballhandler here, I'd love to hear how people would rank these 1-4:
Tyrese Maxey, Cole Anthony, Tyrell Terry, and Kira Lewis
This is an open question to any and all
On pure ball handling, I would put Maxey and Anthony as equals. Lewis is not far behind but it's hard to completely separate speed from the equation. And Lewis is lightening quick. Maxey is has an added benefit of being super strong. You can see how strong of a base he has. and that's why I think he can finish in traffic and through contact so well.
I think all three would absolutely have a field day in our system.
That said, PG is the deepest position in this draft. So I wouldn't mind taking a flier on a Patrick Williams if there because I think Danny could easily get a starting level PG at 26 or 30.
I like Riller, Flynn, Mannion, Winston. I think they all have terrific ball skills and would also flourish in our system.
This draft doesn't have the top end talent but it is loaded where we are picking. Scouting is going to be so important this year.
Mannion is one guy I'm having trouble assessing as a pro. He has a high floor IMO but I can't tell if he has all star potential or not.





