Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

[GoGreen]

Can we extend Smart and still sign Beal in FA?

Smart
Beal
Tatum
JB
Rob

and if we're really greedy Nesmith...would be incredible.

Flat out signing Beal in FA will not be possible if Smart gets extended.

The fact they offered it to Marcus indicates one of two things

1) The FO believes Smart is their 3rd star and wants to keep him no matter what

2) the FO is pessimistic about Beal choosing Boston.

Such a dumb move to offer even before FA next year.

Even if they think their shot at Beal is limited, and this is why they're offering Smart that deal, why tf do you give him the money and not Evan? He looked to be a WAY better fit with the Jays than Marcus ever has been. His shooting and facilitating is exceedingly more important than whatever "intangibles" Smart supposedly gives us.

I just hope this contract is nothing but a rumor.

[SuperDeluxe]

Flat out signing Beal in FA will not be possible if Smart gets extended.

The fact they offered it to Marcus indicates one of two things

1) The FO believes Smart is their 3rd star and wants to keep him no matter what

2) the FO is pessimistic about Beal choosing Boston.

Such a dumb move to offer even before FA next year.

Even if they think their shot at Beal is limited, and this is why they're offering Smart that deal, why tf do you give him the money and not Evan? He looked to be a WAY better fit with the Jays than Marcus ever has been. His shooting and facilitating is exceedingly more important than whatever "intangibles" Smart supposedly gives us.

I just hope this contract is nothing but a rumor.

It's rare that numbers of a contract are out before both parties are happy and agree. My guess is that Smart hasn't accepted these numbers, so the Celtics decided to leak them--either to put pressure on his agent or to do damage control.

[Feed Your Head]

Can we extend Smart and still sign Beal in FA?

Smart
Beal
Tatum
JB
Rob

and if we're really greedy Nesmith...would be incredible.

Flat out signing Beal in FA will not be possible if Smart gets extended.

The fact they offered it to Marcus indicates one of two things

1) The FO believes Smart is their 3rd star and wants to keep him no matter what

2) the FO is pessimistic about Beal choosing Boston.

Such a dumb move to offer even before FA next year.

4/68 isn’t even close to 3rd star money, so no. And it has nothing to do with Beal, why would it?

Weren’t you making some ridiculous prediction last week that they were going to offer Smart 25 million a year? 4/68 is a great deal, and would be very easily moveable.

Last two postseasons, Smart is averaging 16/5/5 on a 57% TS. So in the biggest games, he comes through.

[keevsnick1]

Ya I kind of doubt anything comes of Schroder. It seems like signing him would likely require being a tax team next year which ownership doesn't seem to wnat to do, especially in a year when being a non-tax team likely comes with a pretty nice payout from the tax system (luxury tax gets distributed amongst teams not in the tax).

I doubt ownership views Schroder as being worth giving up that payday. But who knows? If you trade Dunn, sign Schroder to the non tax MLE of 9.5 million you'd only be like 5 million into the tax.

[chrisab123]

Flat out signing Beal in FA will not be possible if Smart gets extended.

The fact they offered it to Marcus indicates one of two things

1) The FO believes Smart is their 3rd star and wants to keep him no matter what

2) the FO is pessimistic about Beal choosing Boston.

Such a dumb move to offer even before FA next year.

4/68 isn’t even close to 3rd star money, so no. And it has nothing to do with Beal, why would it?

Weren’t you making some ridiculous prediction last week that they were going to offer Smart 25 million a year? 4/68 is a great deal, and would be very easily moveable.

Last two postseasons, Smart is averaging 16/5/5 on a 57% TS. So in the biggest games, he comes through.

He comes through...why sign him in the offseason and leave it to chance that another team can and probably will top your offer? What is the rush to spend cap room on Marcus? Now you're left with not only convincing Beal that Boston is the place for him but also convincing Washington to take your deal instead of getting a team like GSW involved who would probably offer Wiseman. If they offer Wiseman for Beal that knocks the Celtics out of the running. I'm sorry but Romeo Nesmith and Prichard probably don't beat what GSW can offer. OKC makes strides this year and wants to pair SGA with a star...they have 3 entire drafts full of picks. You aren't beating that. Blazers can offer CJ. You also aren't beating that offer. Say the Clippers want to offer PG13 and team Kawhi up with Beal? You aren't beating that one. It gets more complicated and adds extra steps when it should be very straight forward.

The Celtics cannot offer Smart above 17 million until end of the season. The 25 million was an exaggerated number but I also did say that like dopes the Celtics would try to blow their cap room on a Marcus extension. Sure enough...Not only all this but then on top of a Beal trade you need to find a non guaranteed contract to take for Smart or a team with open cap room willing to take Smart to make the deal happen. That team can ask for picks on top of Smart. So now you're also trading assets on top of Marcus to get this done.

So why does this make sense to do before the season if the end game is Beal? It doesn't...no one is going to be in any rush to sign Marcus to that deal in the offseason without seeing what Beal does first anyways. Is he a solid player? Yes. But hes not that good where you should go through all of these extra steps to make it that much harder for you in the offseason

[Feed Your Head]

The fact they offered it to Marcus indicates one of two things

1) The FO believes Smart is their 3rd star and wants to keep him no matter what

2) the FO is pessimistic about Beal choosing Boston.

Such a dumb move to offer even before FA next year.

4/68 isn’t even close to 3rd star money, so no. And it has nothing to do with Beal, why would it?

Weren’t you making some ridiculous prediction last week that they were going to offer Smart 25 million a year? 4/68 is a great deal, and would be very easily moveable.

Last two postseasons, Smart is averaging 16/5/5 on a 57% TS. So in the biggest games, he comes through.

He comes through...why sign him in the offseason and leave it to chance that another team can and probably will top your offer? What is the rush to spend cap room on Marcus? Now you're left with not only convincing Beal that Boston is the place for him but also convincing Washington to take your deal instead of getting a team like GSW involved who would probably offer Wiseman. If they offer Wiseman for Beal that knocks the Celtics out of the running. I'm sorry but Romeo Nesmith and Prichard probably don't beat what GSW can offer. OKC makes strides this year and wants to pair SGA with a star...they have 3 entire drafts full of picks. You aren't beating that. Blazers can offer CJ. You also aren't beating that offer. Say the Clippers want to offer PG13 and team Kawhi up with Beal? You aren't beating that one. It gets more complicated and adds extra steps when it should be very straight forward.

The Celtics cannot offer Smart above 17 million until end of the season. The 25 million was an exaggerated number but I also did say that like dopes the Celtics would try to blow their cap room on a Marcus extension. Sure enough...Not only all this but then on top of a Beal trade you need to find a non guaranteed contract to take for Smart or a team with open cap room willing to take Smart to make the deal happen. That team can ask for picks on top of Smart. So now you're also trading assets on top of Marcus to get this done.

So why does this make sense to do before the season if the end game is Beal? It doesn't...

The entire idea of Beal coming here is because he wants to team up with Tatum. Nobody is offering anything of real value for Beal at the deadline, if he even asks out this season. Then if he doesn’t ask out, it just becomes about a sign and trade, which again, nobody offers anything of real value.

FWIW, all indications are that the Warriors hold onto Wiseman, and they owe the Grizzlies a first in a couple of years, which screws up their offer. They also aren’t going to trade multiple unprotected firsts when they have a team with an old, injury prone core.

You’re overthinking this. If Beal wants to come here, it’s pretty easy. Extending Smart doesn’t impact that at all. And as plenty of nba reporters have pointed out, Boston is the biggest threat for Beal. And if Beal does ask out at the deadline, we’d still very easily be able to trade for him. It’s no different than if he were to ask out tomorrow.

[Jaqua92]

Maybe someone can ease my concern here. But how do we obtain Beal in a S&T if we are expecting to extend Smart?

We lose the leverage of free agency. But now, if we resign Smart, we can't sign Beal which means we HAVE to trade him. We can't beat the Warriors offer, so, if the Wizards trade Beal to Warriors, we can't sign him in the off season.

Other than Beal telling the FO he wants to be traded to Boston, how do we ACTUALLY trade for him? The Wizards will know that they don't HAVE to trade him to Boston, even if he demands a trade to Boston. They could still send him to the Warriors and we'd be out.

I'm concerned that the priority of signing Smart was just revealed to be of greater importance than obtaining Beal. A sign and trade around Smart doesn't beat the Warriors offer if Beal doesn't force his way to Boston successfully.

Thoughts?

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[Jaqua92]

4/68 isn’t even close to 3rd star money, so no. And it has nothing to do with Beal, why would it?

Weren’t you making some ridiculous prediction last week that they were going to offer Smart 25 million a year? 4/68 is a great deal, and would be very easily moveable.

Last two postseasons, Smart is averaging 16/5/5 on a 57% TS. So in the biggest games, he comes through.

He comes through...why sign him in the offseason and leave it to chance that another team can and probably will top your offer? What is the rush to spend cap room on Marcus? Now you're left with not only convincing Beal that Boston is the place for him but also convincing Washington to take your deal instead of getting a team like GSW involved who would probably offer Wiseman. If they offer Wiseman for Beal that knocks the Celtics out of the running. I'm sorry but Romeo Nesmith and Prichard probably don't beat what GSW can offer. OKC makes strides this year and wants to pair SGA with a star...they have 3 entire drafts full of picks. You aren't beating that. Blazers can offer CJ. You also aren't beating that offer. Say the Clippers want to offer PG13 and team Kawhi up with Beal? You aren't beating that one. It gets more complicated and adds extra steps when it should be very straight forward.

The Celtics cannot offer Smart above 17 million until end of the season. The 25 million was an exaggerated number but I also did say that like dopes the Celtics would try to blow their cap room on a Marcus extension. Sure enough...Not only all this but then on top of a Beal trade you need to find a non guaranteed contract to take for Smart or a team with open cap room willing to take Smart to make the deal happen. That team can ask for picks on top of Smart. So now you're also trading assets on top of Marcus to get this done.

So why does this make sense to do before the season if the end game is Beal? It doesn't...

The entire idea of Beal coming here is because he wants to team up with Tatum. Nobody is offering anything of real value for Beal at the deadline, if he even asks out this season. Then if he doesn’t ask out, it just becomes about a sign and trade, which again, nobody offers anything of real value.

FWIW, all indications are that the Warriors hold onto Wiseman, and they owe the Grizzlies a first in a couple of years, which screws up their offer. They also aren’t going to trade multiple unprotected firsts when they have a team with an old, injury prone core.

You’re overthinking this. If Beal wants to come here, it’s pretty easy. Extending Smart doesn’t impact that at all. And as plenty of nba reporters have pointed out, Boston is the biggest threat for Beal. And if Beal does ask out at the deadline, we’d still very easily be able to trade for him. It’s no different than if he were to ask out tomorrow.

No one is. But the fact is that by us extending Smart, we can't sign Beal in the off season, correct? His point is that we have lost this free agency leverage over the league. Yes, sure he wants to come here. But if teams now know that we don't have the cap space to sign him, it may be worth it to out trade us and try to resign him, because there's no risk of him running to Boston unless he continues to demand trades.

Some of us are assuming that teams are STILL going to gamble on out bidding us, even if he demands a trade to Boston. And THEN you are assuming that if he is traded elsewhere, he is STILL going to force his way to Boston. If this is true, great. We may have cap space to sign some vets. but it's a lot of specifics surrounding uncertainty now that we may sign Smart.

Honestly, I wish Beal would just request a trade now, we sign and trade Smart and finish this mess

[Froob]

4/68 isn’t even close to 3rd star money, so no. And it has nothing to do with Beal, why would it?

Weren’t you making some ridiculous prediction last week that they were going to offer Smart 25 million a year? 4/68 is a great deal, and would be very easily moveable.

Last two postseasons, Smart is averaging 16/5/5 on a 57% TS. So in the biggest games, he comes through.

It’d be dope if Beal hurts the Wiz leverage to the point we keep JB, Tatum, Rob and Smart. That’s an excellent starting five plus Beal.

He comes through...why sign him in the offseason and leave it to chance that another team can and probably will top your offer? What is the rush to spend cap room on Marcus? Now you're left with not only convincing Beal that Boston is the place for him but also convincing Washington to take your deal instead of getting a team like GSW involved who would probably offer Wiseman. If they offer Wiseman for Beal that knocks the Celtics out of the running. I'm sorry but Romeo Nesmith and Prichard probably don't beat what GSW can offer. OKC makes strides this year and wants to pair SGA with a star...they have 3 entire drafts full of picks. You aren't beating that. Blazers can offer CJ. You also aren't beating that offer. Say the Clippers want to offer PG13 and team Kawhi up with Beal? You aren't beating that one. It gets more complicated and adds extra steps when it should be very straight forward.

The Celtics cannot offer Smart above 17 million until end of the season. The 25 million was an exaggerated number but I also did say that like dopes the Celtics would try to blow their cap room on a Marcus extension. Sure enough...Not only all this but then on top of a Beal trade you need to find a non guaranteed contract to take for Smart or a team with open cap room willing to take Smart to make the deal happen. That team can ask for picks on top of Smart. So now you're also trading assets on top of Marcus to get this done.

So why does this make sense to do before the season if the end game is Beal? It doesn't...

The entire idea of Beal coming here is because he wants to team up with Tatum. Nobody is offering anything of real value for Beal at the deadline, if he even asks out this season. Then if he doesn’t ask out, it just becomes about a sign and trade, which again, nobody offers anything of real value.

FWIW, all indications are that the Warriors hold onto Wiseman, and they owe the Grizzlies a first in a couple of years, which screws up their offer. They also aren’t going to trade multiple unprotected firsts when they have a team with an old, injury prone core.

You’re overthinking this. If Beal wants to come here, it’s pretty easy. Extending Smart doesn’t impact that at all. And as plenty of nba reporters have pointed out, Boston is the biggest threat for Beal. And if Beal does ask out at the deadline, we’d still very easily be able to trade for him. It’s no different than if he were to ask out tomorrow.

[Feed Your Head]

He comes through...why sign him in the offseason and leave it to chance that another team can and probably will top your offer? What is the rush to spend cap room on Marcus? Now you're left with not only convincing Beal that Boston is the place for him but also convincing Washington to take your deal instead of getting a team like GSW involved who would probably offer Wiseman. If they offer Wiseman for Beal that knocks the Celtics out of the running. I'm sorry but Romeo Nesmith and Prichard probably don't beat what GSW can offer. OKC makes strides this year and wants to pair SGA with a star...they have 3 entire drafts full of picks. You aren't beating that. Blazers can offer CJ. You also aren't beating that offer. Say the Clippers want to offer PG13 and team Kawhi up with Beal? You aren't beating that one. It gets more complicated and adds extra steps when it should be very straight forward.

The Celtics cannot offer Smart above 17 million until end of the season. The 25 million was an exaggerated number but I also did say that like dopes the Celtics would try to blow their cap room on a Marcus extension. Sure enough...Not only all this but then on top of a Beal trade you need to find a non guaranteed contract to take for Smart or a team with open cap room willing to take Smart to make the deal happen. That team can ask for picks on top of Smart. So now you're also trading assets on top of Marcus to get this done.

So why does this make sense to do before the season if the end game is Beal? It doesn't...

The entire idea of Beal coming here is because he wants to team up with Tatum. Nobody is offering anything of real value for Beal at the deadline, if he even asks out this season. Then if he doesn’t ask out, it just becomes about a sign and trade, which again, nobody offers anything of real value.

FWIW, all indications are that the Warriors hold onto Wiseman, and they owe the Grizzlies a first in a couple of years, which screws up their offer. They also aren’t going to trade multiple unprotected firsts when they have a team with an old, injury prone core.

You’re overthinking this. If Beal wants to come here, it’s pretty easy. Extending Smart doesn’t impact that at all. And as plenty of nba reporters have pointed out, Boston is the biggest threat for Beal. And if Beal does ask out at the deadline, we’d still very easily be able to trade for him. It’s no different than if he were to ask out tomorrow.

No one is. But the fact is that by us extending Smart, we can't sign Beal in the off season, correct? His point is that we have lost this free agency leverage over the league. Yes, sure he wants to come here. But if teams now know that we don't have the cap space to sign him, it may be worth it to out trade us and try to resign him, because there's no risk of him running to Boston unless he continues to demand trades.

Some of us are assuming that teams are STILL going to gamble on out bidding us, even if he demands a trade to Boston. And THEN you are assuming that if he is traded elsewhere, he is STILL going to force his way to Boston. If this is true, great. We may have cap space to sign some vets. but it's a lot of specifics surrounding uncertainty now that we may sign Smart.

Honestly, I wish Beal would just request a trade now, we sign and trade Smart and finish this mess

If they give Smart 4/68, they could still open up max space. Waiving/stretching Al, and letting Dunn/Grant/Carsen/Romeo walk pretty much gets you there.

Like you said, all you need is the threat of being able to open a max slot.

[Jaqua92]

The entire idea of Beal coming here is because he wants to team up with Tatum. Nobody is offering anything of real value for Beal at the deadline, if he even asks out this season. Then if he doesn’t ask out, it just becomes about a sign and trade, which again, nobody offers anything of real value.

FWIW, all indications are that the Warriors hold onto Wiseman, and they owe the Grizzlies a first in a couple of years, which screws up their offer. They also aren’t going to trade multiple unprotected firsts when they have a team with an old, injury prone core.

You’re overthinking this. If Beal wants to come here, it’s pretty easy. Extending Smart doesn’t impact that at all. And as plenty of nba reporters have pointed out, Boston is the biggest threat for Beal. And if Beal does ask out at the deadline, we’d still very easily be able to trade for him. It’s no different than if he were to ask out tomorrow.

No one is. But the fact is that by us extending Smart, we can't sign Beal in the off season, correct? His point is that we have lost this free agency leverage over the league. Yes, sure he wants to come here. But if teams now know that we don't have the cap space to sign him, it may be worth it to out trade us and try to resign him, because there's no risk of him running to Boston unless he continues to demand trades.

Some of us are assuming that teams are STILL going to gamble on out bidding us, even if he demands a trade to Boston. And THEN you are assuming that if he is traded elsewhere, he is STILL going to force his way to Boston. If this is true, great. We may have cap space to sign some vets. but it's a lot of specifics surrounding uncertainty now that we may sign Smart.

Honestly, I wish Beal would just request a trade now, we sign and trade Smart and finish this mess

If they give Smart 4/68, they could still open up max space. Waiving/stretching Al, and letting Dunn/Grant/Carsen/Romeo walk pretty much gets you there.

Like you said, all you need is the threat of being able to open a max slot.

Well I hope your math is right man.

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[Feed Your Head]

No one is. But the fact is that by us extending Smart, we can't sign Beal in the off season, correct? His point is that we have lost this free agency leverage over the league. Yes, sure he wants to come here. But if teams now know that we don't have the cap space to sign him, it may be worth it to out trade us and try to resign him, because there's no risk of him running to Boston unless he continues to demand trades.

Some of us are assuming that teams are STILL going to gamble on out bidding us, even if he demands a trade to Boston. And THEN you are assuming that if he is traded elsewhere, he is STILL going to force his way to Boston. If this is true, great. We may have cap space to sign some vets. but it's a lot of specifics surrounding uncertainty now that we may sign Smart.

Honestly, I wish Beal would just request a trade now, we sign and trade Smart and finish this mess

If they give Smart 4/68, they could still open up max space. Waiving/stretching Al, and letting Dunn/Grant/Carsen/Romeo walk pretty much gets you there.

Like you said, all you need is the threat of being able to open a max slot.

Well I hope your math is right man.

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My math was wrong lol, it what I get for rushing while at work. It would take dumping Horford on another team, not stretching/waiving. But like I said before, it all comes down to if Beal wants to come here. If he does, nobody would risk trading anything of value for him at the deadline. And if Beal doesn’t ask out (the most likely path), we just can s&T for him next summer.

[keevsnick1]

If they give Smart 4/68, they could still open up max space. Waiving/stretching Al, and letting Dunn/Grant/Carsen/Romeo walk pretty much gets you there.

Like you said, all you need is the threat of being able to open a max slot.

Well I hope your math is right man.

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My math was wrong lol, it what I get for rushing while at work. It would take dumping Horford on another team, not stretching/waiving. But like I said before, it all comes down to if Beal wants to come here. If he does, nobody would risk trading anything of value for him at the deadline. And if Beal doesn’t ask out (the most likely path), we just can s&T for him next summer.

A 4/68 deal for Smart with 8% raises would start at around 15 million and I'm pretty sure with just that, Brown at 27 and Tatum at 30 and 9 cap holds you'd be shy of the 35% max.

[Ring7Banner18]

Well I hope your math is right man.

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My math was wrong lol, it what I get for rushing while at work. It would take dumping Horford on another team, not stretching/waiving. But like I said before, it all comes down to if Beal wants to come here. If he does, nobody would risk trading anything of value for him at the deadline. And if Beal doesn’t ask out (the most likely path), we just can s&T for him next summer.

A 4/68 deal for Smart with 8% raises would start at around 15 million and I'm pretty sure with just that, Brown at 27 and Tatum at 30 and 9 cap holds you'd be shy of the 35% max.

I concur. There’s no way to sign Beal with cap space if we have a resigned Smart along with Brown and Tatum. It’s always made most sense to either trade for Beal by the trade deadline or do a Sign and trade next offseason. Thus I think resigning Smart to a good deal would only help keep more options open.

[hugepatsfan]

Maybe someone can ease my concern here. But how do we obtain Beal in a S&T if we are expecting to extend Smart?

We lose the leverage of free agency. But now, if we resign Smart, we can't sign Beal which means we HAVE to trade him. We can't beat the Warriors offer, so, if the Wizards trade Beal to Warriors, we can't sign him in the off season.

Other than Beal telling the FO he wants to be traded to Boston, how do we ACTUALLY trade for him? The Wizards will know that they don't HAVE to trade him to Boston, even if he demands a trade to Boston. They could still send him to the Warriors and we'd be out.

I'm concerned that the priority of signing Smart was just revealed to be of greater importance than obtaining Beal. A sign and trade around Smart doesn't beat the Warriors offer if Beal doesn't force his way to Boston successfully.

Thoughts?

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Smart's contract should be pretty easy to salary dump. Let's say he were signed for the rumored 4 years, $68M this year. If we were to trade Marcus Smart on that contract, we should be able to land some reasonable salary filler with an asset attached.

If Beal wants to come here and Washington won't do a S&T then you just have to move Smart's salary in a separate deal. Some contending team sends us salary filler with an asset attached but instead of keeping that asset we use it to turn around and dumpt he salary filler on the 3rd team. I think it would be an extremely easy set of moves to execute if we had to.

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[BleedGreen1989]

Not sure how anyone can watch Nesmith and Langford and be like "yup, we're all set on the wing. Spoon-feed them big minutes."

That is, if you actually want to win NBA games.

[ParticleMan]

Not sure how anyone can watch Nesmith and Langford and be like "yup, we're all set on the wing. Spoon-feed them big minutes."

That is, if you actually want to win NBA games.

I’m not too worried about SL. These guys can play. I wish we had Beal but they’re better than JRich or anyone else we have at that spot. Or anyone we could realistically get.

[sam_I_am]

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Not sure how anyone can watch Nesmith and Langford and be like "yup, we're all set on the wing. Spoon-feed them big minutes."

That is, if you actually want to win NBA games.

We are all set on the wing. We have the Jays and Smart and JRich to back them up. Langford maybe can get a few minutes a ps defensive stopper. Now we need a PG like Schroeder so that PP stays in his role as backup.

I don’t want to overreact to one summer league game but the idea that we didn’t need Fournier because we have Nesmith is absurd. It was purely financial and due to the hope we can get a third stud ( which Evan is not ) we will need to compete with Nets.

[greenroom31]

Not sure how anyone can watch Nesmith and Langford and be like "yup, we're all set on the wing. Spoon-feed them big minutes."

That is, if you actually want to win NBA games.

Think about the available minutes we have at the wing this year -- assuming Jaylen and Jayson stay healthy there really aren't that many to go around. There are 144 mpg at the 2-4 position and Tatum and Brown will take probably 70 of them. That leaves 74 mpg to divide up between:

Nesmith, Romeo, Richardson, Grant Williams and Smart/Pritchard (who will likely play together some). If Richardson gets ~26 mpg that leaves 48 mpg for the others. Let's say Smart/Pritchard take 10 mpg at the 2 and Grant (or some other big) gets 10 mpg at the 4. Now you're looking at 28mpg to divide up between Nesmith and Romeo. That's pretty far from "spoon-feeding them big minutes".

They're both 21 years old and have shown enough to warrant an opportunity to see what they can do in a role on the team. Post-all star game, Nesmith was pretty decent in a ~15 mpg role. Shot 46%, 38% from 3pt, played tough defense, rebounded and moved the ball. Romeo flashed a little in the playoffs. They are both 21 years old.

Not sure what the issue is unless there's an injury to Tatum or Brown. I'd much rather have a roster where our young 1st round picks have a chance to play and see if they can develop into good rotation players under Udoka than throw more journeymen (like Richardson) onto the team and see if we can scratch our way to a 5 or 6 seed.