Official Celtics 2022 Off-Season Thread

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

You mean Allen got picked over Rob?

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Rob has played in 47 games. Jaylen has played in 44.

My 3 thoughts are:

1- RW has a good case.

2 - Next year will be even better I hope/expect

3 - everyone should be ecstatic that RW has stayed relatively healthy all year. His one major concern.

I'd pick Jarrett Allen over Rob too. Numbers aren't too far apart but if you took the names off the list and asked someone to pick one they'd pick the one on the left. I like what Rob is turning into for sure

Yep, I'd pick Allen too, anyone who's watched Cavs shouldn't have too much issue with him getting the nod. I was very disappointed we didn't get Allen from Brooklyn. Thankfully Rob is (touch wood) staying more healthy and been a stud himself.

[bucknersrevenge]

Just thinking, after that SMart injury, the All-Star break now comes at a perfect time.

[bucknersrevenge]

Alright, Philly's gonna come out swinging I suspect. Let's just hold on.

EDIT: I think....?

[playa-hater]

Alright, Philly's gonna come out swinging I suspect. Let's just hold on.

EDIT: I think....?

this did not age well

[playa-hater]

ESPN has not updated Grants stats yet after tonight. Tomorrow he should be shooting over 40+50 and 89.6 % splits. feel a couple of FTs and he will be at a rare 40 50 90 split.. really want that for him.

RW may be the MIP player overall, but Grants shooting splits has to be the most improved in how long??? ever???

[Fierce1]

Celts now within striking distance of the 3rd seed.

[playa-hater]

Celts now within striking distance of the 3rd seed.

well we are in striking distance of first place as well.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

[zoyathedestroya]

Kinda random fact: The Celtics defense allows the most isolation scoring possessions (per game & frequency %) AND are the best at driving down efficiency in those scoring possessions, allowing just 0.76 PPP.

The switching defense flattens opposing teams, limits movement, and forces them to go one-on-one.

[greenroom31]

For an update on Smart's ankle sprain, this is a pretty credible/accurate source: https://sicscore.com/nba/updates/marcus-smart-suffers-right-ankle-sprain-will-be-good-to-go-post-all-star-break

Based on initial video, Smart appears to suffer a right ankle inversion sprain – the most common basketball sprain – along with a contusion to his knee.

After visible discomfort and the immediate action of the Celtics ruling him out of the game right away, this injury should be a short-term absence for Smart according to our ProBasketballDocs. He will miss tomorrow night's game against the Pistons and return sometime soon after the all-star break, although likely not immediately.

Boston's first contest post all-star is against the new-look Nets on Feb. 24, followed by road bouts in Detroit and Indiana.

[zoyathedestroya]

National media starting to pay attention makes me uncomfortable.

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Several people have used Christmas as the starting point of when the Celtics have had the #1 offense. It's actually since the last week of October.

[Feed Your Head]

Al is SO good on the defensive end.

[24istheLAW]

Now that he's injured, it's a good time to revisit Smart calling out his teammates publicly. At that point the team was 2-5. Since then, 32-20. A lot of people on this board were infuriated with Smart for being a "locker-room cancer" since he had the audacity to point out what the team needs to do better publicly. It seems that this criticism was received constructively to me - Brown and Tatum have since bumped up both their team play as well as their assist averages (Brown from 2.5 to 3.3/game, Tatum from 3.7 to 4.3).

[sam_I_am]

Now that he's injured, it's a good time to revisit Smart calling out his teammates publicly. At that point the team was 2-5. Since then, 32-20. A lot of people on this board were infuriated with Smart for being a "locker-room cancer" since he had the audacity to point out what the team needs to do better publicly. It seems that this criticism was received constructively to me - Brown and Tatum have since bumped up both their team play as well as their assist averages (Brown from 2.5 to 3.3/game, Tatum from 3.7 to 4.3).

At the time the perception was that Smart was out of line given his poor shooting. Realistically, as we can see now he was 100% right and he has been a huge part of the solution with his play since return from his last injury. I was hugely disappointed in his play as PG at start of season but it’s clear that his style of play is exactly what this team needed. Unfortunate he sprained his ankle because he was becoming a finisher at the rim and if this injuries limits his burst for awhile it’s gonna hurt. He may not be a dominant all star caliber player but he has championship mettle.

[zoyathedestroya]

Now that he's injured, it's a good time to revisit Smart calling out his teammates publicly. At that point the team was 2-5. Since then, 32-20. A lot of people on this board were infuriated with Smart for being a "locker-room cancer" since he had the audacity to point out what the team needs to do better publicly. It seems that this criticism was received constructively to me - Brown and Tatum have since bumped up both their team play as well as their assist averages (Brown from 2.5 to 3.3/game, Tatum from 3.7 to 4.3).

Yep, assist numbers have trended up since November.

Brown:



Tatum:

[sam_I_am]

Now that he's injured, it's a good time to revisit Smart calling out his teammates publicly. At that point the team was 2-5. Since then, 32-20. A lot of people on this board were infuriated with Smart for being a "locker-room cancer" since he had the audacity to point out what the team needs to do better publicly. It seems that this criticism was received constructively to me - Brown and Tatum have since bumped up both their team play as well as their assist averages (Brown from 2.5 to 3.3/game, Tatum from 3.7 to 4.3).

Yep, assist numbers have trended up since November.

Brown:



Tatum:

What makes that even more amazing is that his coach can’t develop young players.

[Feed Your Head]

Man that 2.69 assist to turnover rate for Tatum this month is sexy as all hell.

You can see the game slowing down for him.

[Celts17Pride]

Celts now within striking distance of the 3rd seed.

Celts now within striking distance of the 1st seed

[zoyathedestroya]

Now that he's injured, it's a good time to revisit Smart calling out his teammates publicly. At that point the team was 2-5. Since then, 32-20. A lot of people on this board were infuriated with Smart for being a "locker-room cancer" since he had the audacity to point out what the team needs to do better publicly. It seems that this criticism was received constructively to me - Brown and Tatum have since bumped up both their team play as well as their assist averages (Brown from 2.5 to 3.3/game, Tatum from 3.7 to 4.3).

Yep, assist numbers have trended up since November.

Spoiler:

Brown:



Tatum:

What makes that even more amazing is that his coach can’t develop young players.

Hah! Kidding aside, I still give Stevens the edge when it comes to Xs-and-Os and getting the most out of ham-and-eggers. Below are complaints against Brad that might have been addressed with the change to Ime.

☑ ability to reach the Jays with regards to their play style preference
☑ reeling in Marcus Smart and asking him to stick with his role (but health in hierarchy still plays a part in this)
☑ use of timeouts
☑ holding his players accountable
☑ not playing his best players enough (Ime may have gone the other extreme)
☑ attacking the zone

[steefP2]

From Seth Partnow at the Athletic:


"Boston Celtics: According to Estimated Plus/Minus, each of the six players (Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams, Al Horford, Marcus Smart and the newly acquired Derrick White) is likely to be in some version of the Celtics’ closing lineup is 83rd percentile or above in terms of defensive impact this year. Boston is a nasty defensive team, with the ability to guard at the point of attack, match up well with big wings, play big, protect the rim and also run a switching scheme.

In the three games since White became available, Boston is 3-0 with a defensive rating of 95.6 against the teams currently ranked third, ninth and 15th in the league in Offensive Rating. The C’s probably don’t have quite enough offense, and especially outside shooting. Even before swapping White (career 37.2 on uncontested 3s) in for superior marksman Josh Richardson (38.5 percent career on uncontested 3s), the Celtics were seventh from bottom in weighted career average 3FG% on uncontested attempts, a stat I like to call “shooter quality.” It will be hard for them to make it through four playoff rounds, but they will be absolutely zero fun to play against and will go into any series a Tatum or Brown takeover from beating anyone."

[keevsnick1]

For an update on Smart's ankle sprain, this is a pretty credible/accurate source: https://sicscore.com/nba/updates/marcus-smart-suffers-right-ankle-sprain-will-be-good-to-go-post-all-star-break

Based on initial video, Smart appears to suffer a right ankle inversion sprain – the most common basketball sprain – along with a contusion to his knee.

After visible discomfort and the immediate action of the Celtics ruling him out of the game right away, this injury should be a short-term absence for Smart according to our ProBasketballDocs. He will miss tomorrow night's game against the Pistons and return sometime soon after the all-star break, although likely not immediately.

Boston's first contest post all-star is against the new-look Nets on Feb. 24, followed by road bouts in Detroit and Indiana.

I would be VERY cautious about diagnosing the severity of injury's based off video. There will be an MRI, the extent of any tissue injury will determine how long he's out. Mild sprains can be 1-2 weeks, moderate ones more like 2-4.