Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Would it be poor form to dream up a single 15-team Trade-a-Palooza so I can have all my favorite players in the league on the Celtics?

How about we just pretend Brandan Wright is an honorary Celtic?

Right.

Brandan Wright, Big Bassy Smith, Wilson Chandler, Nicolas Batum, Greek Freak, Kyle Lowry, Andre Roberson, Dion Waiters, Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Klay Thompson, Amir Johnson, Stephen Adams, Nate "Don't call me Rex" Wolters .. that's 14 of my favorites right there and I wasn't even trying. I already have a lot of guards I really like Robert Covington/Orlando Johnson as a lottery ticket. I am pretty high on Vitor Faverani, as well. Ok, I could give up on Lowry and add Vitor and Orlando Johnson to round out my top-15, I guess.

Dude Klay Thompson...there's something that tells me if he was the primary option, and had a passing/slashing point guard like rondo he would average huge numbers.

Imagine if he got 4-5 more shots per game without curry..... whoh

[Waider]

Could anyone see Marvin Williams from Utah having interest from the Rockets if Ainge wanted to continue to pursue Asik? He seems to fit the profile of what they are looking for in a stretch 4 & his salary is off the books at the end of the season so no damage to future cap space.

A Celtics/Rockets/Jazz 3-way could work out nice for the Celtics, especially if Hayward became involved.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ocdsk2h

In the above trade the Jazz get the Clippers '15 pick for absorbing the contracts of Bass & Lee. Or Bogans can substitute Lee if they prefer. For the Rockets, in lieu of the draft pick they get a lottery pick from this years draft who has potential to develop into a big like Hawes who they have had their eyes on. Just a thought.

[brackdan70]

Could anyone see Marvin Williams from Utah having interest from the Rockets if Ainge wanted to continue to pursue Asik? He seems to fit the profile of what they are looking for in a stretch 4 & his salary is off the books at the end of the season so no damage to future cap space.

A Celtics/Rockets/Jazz 3-way could work out nice for the Celtics, especially if Hayward became involved.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ocdsk2h

In the above trade the Jazz get the Clippers '15 pick for absorbing the contracts of Bass & Lee. Or Bogans can substitute Lee if they prefer. For the Rockets, in lieu of the draft pick they get a lottery pick from this years draft who has potential to develop into a big like Hawes who they have had their eyes on. Just a thought.

They don't want Marvin Williams, he is filler only, only redeeming value is expiring contract. I would think they would rather have Bass.

Celtics make out like Bandits in that scenario. I think Utah needs another pick probably and unless Houston loves Oly, they would need a pick as well.

So say you give Utah the best of 2015 picks and lesser of 2016 picks, and give Houston one of our 2014 picks, maybe those teams would do it.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Interesting idea but Utah is getting nothing in that deal, they'd need Olynyk at the very least..

[CelticFaninLBC]

Charlotte could have interest in Bass & Lee, as they're making a playoff push... McRoberts & Zeller aren't putting up good numbers @ the 4, and Ben Gordon's not doing much as the backup 2. The Bobcats are also last in 3 point percentage, so Lee would help them...

Charlotte is owed 2014 picks from Detroit and Portland and could package one pick in a deal to Houston, along Ben Gordon's expiring, with Boston sending LAC's pick too. Of course, Morey would probably want Rondo, as well...

[Parasite]

Jeff Green is slowly making me go insane. I can barely watch the guy anymore. If he's on one of his "not right" days, he is absolutely invisible out there. I know the Cavs really wanted him, so would anybody do this trade?

Celtics trade Jeff Green.

Cavs trade C.J. Miles, Alonzo Gee, filler(Dellavedova, etc.), 2015 1st round pick

Why for the Cavs: They could use Green really badly right now, well at least the version of him that bothers to show up.

Why for the Celts: Keeps me from being committed to an insanity ward, and Miles is expiring while Gee has 1 less year than Green did. Also, the pick, which will probably be right around number 20 in 2015 I'm guessing.

I guess I just don't see Jeff in the long-term plans. Way way way too inconsistent. Although if a better deal for him is out there, I'd love that. My only hope is that somehow Rondo coming back makes "Benzo" Jeff disappear, but I seriously doubt it. Would love to be wrong.

[DK-All Day]

Green for Waiters+filler

Jeff Green pisses me off with his weekly disappearing act(S).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Green, Bass, Lee, Faverani for MKG, Gordon, and picks...

Move Green, while he has value. Build around a young core of Sullinger, MKG and Bradley, and open up substantial cap space.

[Roddy]

Celtics / Sixers / Kings trade :

Celtics get : Thaddeus Young, Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas.

Sixers get : Jason Thompson, Kris Humphries, a future 1st from Boston.

Kings get : Spencer Hawes, Courtney Lee, Jordan Crawford, Kelly Olynyk.

Sully / Faverani
Young / Bass
Green / Wallace
Bradley / Thornton
Rondo / Thomas

[Andrew McCeltic]

The Bobcats angle is interesting, but if they're moving Gordon's expiring (and/or MKG), won't they get better offers than Bass/Lee? Pretty sure they could get Young and Turner from PHI..

[Kefa461]

Quick question......Can Atlanta be in the lottery and be in the playoffs at the same time?

[Waider]

Quick question......Can Atlanta be in the lottery and be in the playoffs at the same time?

They can this year if the Nets continue to suck, but not with their pick - they get the higher/better pick of theirs or Brooklyn's. If Brooklyn end up in the lottery & Atlanta make the playoffs, the Hawks get the Nets lottery pick. The Celtics then get Atlanta's (via Brooklyn) pick from the PP/KG trade.

[CelticFaninLBC]

The Bobcats angle is interesting, but if they're moving Gordon's expiring (and/or MKG), won't they get better offers than Bass/Lee? Pretty sure they could get Young and Turner from PHI..

Young and Turner is probably better than Green, Bass and Lee, but Turner's expiring too.. Just depends if Philly really like MKG and how many picks Charlotte's willing to give up. Also, if Charlotte's GM is an advance stats guy, then Turner's numbers don't look so hot, but they might like him better than Green, as he provides cap flexibility for next summer.

[DK-All Day]

What would it take to pry Marc Gasol away from MEM.

[CelticFaninLBC]

What would it take to pry Marc Gasol away from MEM.

From what I've read, sounds like they want to build around Gasol & Conley. So will be surprised if Gasol becomes available, especially with rumors of Pau Gasol possibly returning to Memphis...

[Pogue Mahone]

Boston
Trades Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee and 2014 1st RD'er (ATL/BKN)

Cleveland
Trades Anthony Bennett, Dion Waiters and Anderson Varejao

WHY:

BOS: Get the best player in the deal (Varejao), albeit with an injury history. His presence allows Sullinger to match up to the weaker of the frontcourt assignments. Celtics also get potentially the 2nd and 3rd best players in the deal. Waiters may end up being the best. The shine of Waiters and Bennett has dulled but each does have "above average starter" type impact ability and each is currently greatly impacted by both a **** coach (Brown) and a **** teammate (Kyrie). Worst case scenario, the Celtics decline the option years of both Waiters and Bennett and essentially salary dump the third on both Lee and Green. Hence the inclusion of the pick.

CLE: They want to make the playoffs. They trade upside for mid-career veterans. Personally, I feel this is a poor move for Cleveland but I could see how some might view it otherwise.

Thoughts?

[CelticFaninLBC]

Can't see Cleveland dealing their last 2 very high draft picks for that...

[RJM]

In a straight up deal, the numbers match.

Boston Trades: Rajon Rondo
Indiana Trades: Danny Granger/2014 First Rounder

Trade ID #6389278

Analysis: Due to Indiana being over the cap and having a post-trade Team Salary under the Tax Threshold and trading out less than $19.6M in salaries, the 50% trade rule is invoked. Indiana could not receive more than 150% plus $100,000 or no more than $5,000,000 in additional salaries (whichever is lesser) of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. Also, Indiana met the requirements of the Hard Cap rules of staying under the Tax Threshold plus $4M for adjusted post-trade Team Salary.

Due to Boston being over the cap and having a post-trade Team Salary over the Tax Threshold, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Boston could not receive more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. Also, Boston met the requirements of the Hard Cap rules of staying under the Tax Threshold plus $4M for adjusted post-trade Team Salary.

This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

- I think Boston, who is in the process of rebuilding right now, wouldn't mind helping one of their guys out a la Kevin McHale's willingness to ship KG to Boston back in 2007.

- I don't think Indiana would mind parting with a 2014 First Rounder if it means they have a legitimate PG for the next five seasons. I've been saying since 2011 that the missing link for Indiana is a disciplined PG that will bring down Indiana's turnover numbers. Rondo will do that and then some.

- Danny Granger is an expiring contract coming back from injury, so if Boston receives him, they could either keep him in the offseason or let him expire and use the cap space for more talent alongside their two lottery picks (one from them, the other from Brooklyn's inevitable demise).

- Rondo should come back just fine, but with Boston rebuilding the way they are, two lottery picks and a third late first rounder means they have a legitimate shot at Marcus Smart and some of the other Top 5 talents on the board. Hell, maybe they could package their picks for the #1 if they so choose.

How do you feel about this deal?

P.S. - And yes, I root for the HEAT and Lakers. Imagine the irony in this idea.

[GhostofJizzbird]

Danny Ainge slams the door in your face, opens it, and slams it again

[Marley2Hendrix]

Love Pogue's deal and would be all about it. Gilbert may be crazy enough to do it.

The Rondo/Granger trade would never happen. Terrible trade from a Bos perspective.