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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1041 » by jordb2k7 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:20 pm

Bohemian wrote:Maybe it´s for the better. I was tired of the F5 key :P


lol touché I expect an uptick in my productivity.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1042 » by CelticFaninLBC » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:25 pm

Is it better for OKC if Brown is signed?
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Post#1043 » by Asian Celtic » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:28 pm

Good, this is way better IMO for trying to be impatient in blowing up our young ones.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1044 » by Froob » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:30 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Is it better for OKC if Brown is signed?

If he isn't signed then no salary matching is needed for Brown, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1045 » by Smitty731 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:34 pm

You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.
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Post#1046 » by Chris4Vikes » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:34 pm

FWIW, rumored Griffin trade is not affected.

Rozier, Johnson, Olynyk?, picks not affected
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1047 » by Froob » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:36 pm

Smitty731 wrote:You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.

So is it safe to assume Brown is probably staying or was there a deadline for getting Brown signed? Why do it now if he isn't staying?
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Post#1048 » by fallguy » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:36 pm

Chris4Vikes wrote:FWIW, rumored Griffin trade is not affected.

Rozier, Johnson, Olynyk?, picks not affected


Hmmm. Griffin first, followed later by Westbrook after Presti explores some other options around the league?
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1049 » by Chris4Vikes » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:44 pm

Hey Smitty:

Can we take down the alert level around here a few notches? Or should we still be on alert?
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1050 » by Mattybriand » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:56 pm

Finally we can breath, no Griffin No Westbrook. But look on the bright side we signed the 2nd best free agent available and Jaylen Brown has the tools to be special
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1051 » by mbsnmisc » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:58 pm

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Fencer reregistered wrote:
Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:I was doing a little studying up on mental disorders last night, like narcissism, OCD, Interesting stuff. I'm not saying anyone here may have one, I'm just saying I was doing some light article reading. I know some angry dudes in general and always wondered why they're wired that way. BTW I'm convinced Dr Phil is by clinical terms a narcissist


You were rewatching the Republican convention?


Our political system is a train wreck. We're about 1 term away from a true third and 4th party taking root. The dems lost their next generation voters, the republican voters want a crazier future.

My my eyes, for example, I notice Texans and southerners think their environment is "the American way" then I see the melting pot areas like the Great Lakes, North east and pacific coast thinking that their environment is "the American way" both thinking their way is more American than the other. Both are giant bubbles technically speaking, yet so big it challenges the traditional term, "Bubble Community" Is it a question of which is more American? I don't think that way cause that's another reason to divide. The question I ask is, why would I want to make a southerner or a Bible Belter embrace what I call a personal liberty. Cause I don't want them to tell me who to screw, what to read, how to think, who to marry. I just think we have a lot to learn about accepting others ways of life, and the lesson is to try and not impose your personal beliefs upon all of society. Peoples egos make them think their way is the most righteous. So they play "little dictator in their fantasies and want others to assimilate. Pretty fascinating stuff.



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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1052 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:01 am

Smitty731 wrote:You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.


So Brown's salary essentially matches Singler's contract dump?
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1053 » by Smitty731 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:11 am

Froob wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.

So is it safe to assume Brown is probably staying or was there a deadline for getting Brown signed? Why do it now if he isn't staying?


There was no real space left and usually the rookies are the last to be signed. Because you can always sign them due to the Rookie Exception, you don't need cap space. But the minute you do sign him, he counts on the cap. So, they are generally last to sign. Jackson and Bentil went first because in order to give them more than 2 year deals, they have to use cap space. The Minimum Exception (Rookie or Veteran) only allows for a 2 year deal.

It is kind of complicated, but the ordering is not surprising. I don't think this makes a big difference if they were to deal Brown or not. The Cavs had to wait 30 days to trade Wiggins in the Love deal.

But I don't think Brown is going anywhere either. I think he's in Boston to stay.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1054 » by Smitty731 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:13 am

Chris4Vikes wrote:Hey Smitty:

Can we take down the alert level around here a few notches? Or should we still be on alert?


I think they're still trying. I'm not saying you need to be up all night refreshing Twitter or anything, but I would check in now and again at least for another week or so. Once we hit the Olympics everything will likely calm down for a while.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1055 » by Smitty731 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:14 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.


So Brown's salary essentially matches Singler's contract dump?


Assuming Brown signed for 120% of the Rookie Scale (99% of first rounders sign for 120%), his cap hit is $4,743,000.00 for 2016-17.
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1056 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:20 am

Smitty731 wrote:
Froob wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:You probably all saw, but Brown, Jackson, Bentil, Green and Zeller all officially signed today.

All this changes is Brown, Jackson and Bentil can't be traded for 30 days and Zeller can no longer be used in a Sign & Trade package.

Also, Brown's salary now counts for salary matching in trade. Salary value in a trade was $0.00 until he signed.

So is it safe to assume Brown is probably staying or was there a deadline for getting Brown signed? Why do it now if he isn't staying?


There was no real space left and usually the rookies are the last to be signed. Because you can always sign them due to the Rookie Exception, you don't need cap space. But the minute you do sign him, he counts on the cap. So, they are generally last to sign. Jackson and Bentil went first because in order to give them more than 2 year deals, they have to use cap space. The Minimum Exception (Rookie or Veteran) only allows for a 2 year deal.

It is kind of complicated, but the ordering is not surprising. I don't think this makes a big difference if they were to deal Brown or not. The Cavs had to wait 30 days to trade Wiggins in the Love deal.

But I don't think Brown is going anywhere either. I think he's in Boston to stay.



Love the idea that brown is more likely to be kept than traded. I am all in for a homegrown superstar in which brown shows promise. I'd bet his growth would be better due to the players he's been surrounded (bulldogs) and all the while having the luxury of playoff experience and contention. Hope we keep him if there's any Major trade that's going to fall. :)
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1057 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:21 am

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You were rewatching the Republican convention?


Our political system is a train wreck. We're about 1 term away from a true third and 4th party taking root. The dems lost their next generation voters, the republican voters want a crazier future.

My my eyes, for example, I notice Texans and southerners think their environment is "the American way" then I see the melting pot areas like the Great Lakes, North east and pacific coast thinking that their environment is "the American way" both thinking their way is more American than the other. Both are giant bubbles technically speaking, yet so big it challenges the traditional term, "Bubble Community" Is it a question of which is more American? I don't think that way cause that's another reason to divide. The question I ask is, why would I want to make a southerner or a Bible Belter embrace what I call a personal liberty. Cause I don't want them to tell me who to screw, what to read, how to think, who to marry. I just think we have a lot to learn about accepting others ways of life, and the lesson is to try and not impose your personal beliefs upon all of society. Peoples egos make them think their way is the most righteous. So they play "little dictator in their fantasies and want others to assimilate. Pretty fascinating stuff.



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I believe it. Been down south. By the way people I find are nicer out west. We're more aggressive and in a hurry over here I've been told by outsiders.
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Post#1058 » by yeleven11 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:24 am

Doesnt re-signing zeller mean that even if we do get westbrook, we won't have enough cap space to renegotiate his contract?
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Re: The latest rumors/news after today's signings 

Post#1059 » by Smitty731 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:05 am

yeleven11 wrote:Doesnt re-signing zeller mean that even if we do get westbrook, we won't have enough cap space to renegotiate his contract?


Most likely. Depends on who gets moved and how much money comes back.
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Post#1060 » by Chris4Vikes » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:19 am

Got a guy who claims to have a source who has a source that says Doc asked for Crowder as an add on to trade at last minute which has the whole things frozen.

FWIW.

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