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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1041 » by Half-Full » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:51 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:
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LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Oh, and if you think watching players during a pandemic college season is the only sample people go by, you're a fool. Theres this other body of work called high-school you may want to look into.


Come on LBF, you are too good of a poster to act like someone like the poster than left a year ago and recently came back and got banned. He added nothing to this forum and put the form down and insulted people.

Well said. I'm not sure who you're referencing, but I shouldn't let someone like Hal rile me up.


What's he done to rile you up? You object to his enthusiasm speculating about possible second round draft selections? That is an enthusiasm shared by many others. Ain't none of us has a crystal ball. We all rely on scouting reports, and highlight videos for the most part. I'm no guru, but my sense is that this is a deep draft. I feel pretty good about getting a player at 45 that will stick with the team. I could be wrong, but so what? I'll be in good company with a lot of other Celtic fans.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1042 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:52 pm

playa-hater wrote:In the "way too early category" from the other thread - "If Rob Williams is traded", does come true, it opens up the potential for Boston to nab some of the many RD2 Big-men that may be still around at 45.

"heads spinning" :D

If Rob is traded, perhaps we draft Queta.

I like Queta. He seems like a Time Lord clone except Queta is taller, Queta actually has a post up game and Queta is less of an injury risk.

I like Bassey too, a floor stretching 5 man who can block shots. Filip Petrusev is intriguing too. All 3 of them have a chance to still be there at 45..

As long as we have this surplus of bigs on the roster though, I am hoping we don't take a center. We'll see..
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1043 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:23 pm

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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1044 » by playa-hater » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:15 pm

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playa-hater wrote:In the "way too early category" from the other thread - "If Rob Williams is traded", does come true, it opens up the potential for Boston to nab some of the many RD2 Big-men that may be still around at 45.

"heads spinning" :D

If Rob is traded, perhaps we draft Queta.

I like Queta. He seems like a Time Lord clone except Queta is taller, Queta actually has a post up game and Queta is less of an injury risk.

I like Bassey too, a floor stretching 5 man who can block shots. Filip Petrusev is intriguing too. All 3 of them have a chance to still be there at 45..

As long as we have this surplus of bigs on the roster though, I am hoping we don't take a center. We'll see..


I would be SHOCKED he last to 45. But I have been wrong before.. just can't remember 8-) when
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1045 » by playa-hater » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:16 pm

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I hate when I start liking someone and now realize there is NO CHANCE to get him.. Kid is doing too well.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1046 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:37 pm

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playa-hater wrote:In the "way too early category" from the other thread - "If Rob Williams is traded", does come true, it opens up the potential for Boston to nab some of the many RD2 Big-men that may be still around at 45.

"heads spinning" :D

If Rob is traded, perhaps we draft Queta.

I like Queta. He seems like a Time Lord clone except Queta is taller, Queta actually has a post up game and Queta is less of an injury risk.

I like Bassey too, a floor stretching 5 man who can block shots. Filip Petrusev is intriguing too. All 3 of them have a chance to still be there at 45..

As long as we have this surplus of bigs on the roster though, I am hoping we don't take a center. We'll see..


I would be SHOCKED he last to 45. But I have been wrong before.. just can't remember 8-) when

IDK, some of the mocks and big boards I've seen have Queta in the 45-55 range. Seems like Bassey is projected higher and will likely be be gone before 45. Seems like Bassey is projected in the 27-37 range and Queta is projected in the 33-43 range..
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1047 » by Half-Full » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:37 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
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I hate when I start liking someone and now realize there is NO CHANCE to get him.. Kid is doing too well.


For every player that rises, one drops. It will be interesting to see who will be available when we draft, at least for those of us who can muster up some excitement for a second round pick.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1048 » by Hal14 » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:40 pm

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I hate when I start liking someone and now realize there is NO CHANCE to get him.. Kid is doing too well.

haha yeah, with the hype he's getting who knows, he may end up going in the 1st round.

But I feel like before the combine no one was talking about him and he was so low on rankings/mocks/big boards so maybehe'll still be there at 45..

If he's gone though, it's cool, I'm fine grabbing someone like Brown/Vrenz/Todd/Gray/Moses Wright/Herb Jones/Aldama..
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1049 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:33 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:In the "way too early category" from the other thread - "If Rob Williams is traded", does come true, it opens up the potential for Boston to nab some of the many RD2 Big-men that may be still around at 45.

"heads spinning" :D

If Rob is traded, perhaps we draft Queta.

I like Queta. He seems like a Time Lord clone except Queta is taller, Queta actually has a post up game and Queta is less of an injury risk.

I like Bassey too, a floor stretching 5 man who can block shots. Filip Petrusev is intriguing too. All 3 of them have a chance to still be there at 45..

As long as we have this surplus of bigs on the roster though, I am hoping we don't take a center. We'll see..


A lot of good eventual 5s in the modern NBA are viable stretch 4s first, so I don't think there would be any reason not to draft one of them while Rob was still on the roster. If anything, continuing with Rob rather than Thompson would likely open up more time for a rook (unfortunately).

But the Brad's shipping out Rob rumor rings too true to dismiss.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1050 » by moonie_mcgee » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:19 am

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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1051 » by playa-hater » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:12 am

1st after combine ranking proves no one has an idea of what the hell is going on.. just look at where we think players are going vs what others are projecting. espcially from late first to end of 2nd.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-prospect-rankings-combine-lotto-pistons-rockets/
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Post#1052 » by playa-hater » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:27 am

Also the one and only Joe Wieskamp has officially worked out for Boston :pray: :pray: :pray: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1053 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:39 am

playa-hater wrote:Also the one and only Joe Wieskamp has officially worked out for Boston :pray: :pray: :pray: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

haha yup, I saw that on Twitter earlier today, was pumped.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1054 » by Hal14 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:49 am

playa-hater wrote:1st after combine ranking proves no one has an idea of what the hell is going on.. just look at where we think players are going vs what others are projecting. espcially from late first to end of 2nd.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-prospect-rankings-combine-lotto-pistons-rockets/

No major surprises in 1st round.

Wow, Wieskamp at 61. Yeah, he seems to be pretty underrated. Seems like a good chance he'll be there at 45.

How do they have Livers (still not returned to the court from his broken foot) ranked ahead of Wieskamp?

Vrenz at 73 seems low and Herb Jones not even ranked in top 80. No Aldama in the top 80 and Carton not even mentioned in the article at all.

Overall there list seems in line with what I'm seeing/hearing in other places though..
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Post#1055 » by return2glory » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:49 am

I mentioned few weeks ago and I will mention it again. Garza has a Vuc vibe to him. A few days ago he said in an interview that he models his game after him.

With him dropping about 25 lbs, he is going to be a better player than most think at the NBA level.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1056 » by captain green » Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:19 am

return2glory wrote:I mentioned few weeks ago and I will mention it again. Garza has a Vuc vibe to him. A few days ago he said in an interview that he models his game after him.

With him dropping about 25 lbs, he is going to be a better player than most think at the NBA level.

Garza probably won't be drafted but also think he will be better than expected by alot. But at 45 and all options are exhausted I wouldn't be mad about it he just looks so **** slow and stiff
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1057 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:43 pm

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:1st after combine ranking proves no one has an idea of what the hell is going on.. just look at where we think players are going vs what others are projecting. espcially from late first to end of 2nd.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-mock-draft-prospect-rankings-combine-lotto-pistons-rockets/

No major surprises in 1st round.

Wow, Wieskamp at 61. Yeah, he seems to be pretty underrated. Seems like a good chance he'll be there at 45.

How do they have Livers (still not returned to the court from his broken foot) ranked ahead of Wieskamp?

Vrenz at 73 seems low and Herb Jones not even ranked in top 80. No Aldama in the top 80 and Carton not even mentioned in the article at all.

Overall there list seems in line with what I'm seeing/hearing in other places though..


At a certain point he's just throwing names against the wall.

And it's because there are so many good prospects that you can't fit them in.

Perfect example is Jason Preston. He has him listed at 58 but then his description says he's a top 40 prospect who could go in the first round.

Uh, okay. Why do you have him at 58 then?

There's just too many. So someone has to fall.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1058 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:05 pm

I'm thinking this might be a good draft to make a promise to someone.

There's so many good prospects that I'm thinking some guys might drop out and try again next year. So why not find someone you like who might drop out and make them a promise to keep them in?

If they stay in and get drafted higher, that still helps you because someone else will be forced to drop. Players returning to school is the only thing that could really prevent us from having good picks available to us at this point.

Still hoping we move up, but if we're going to stay ay 45, I think we should make a promise.

I'm thinking Johnny Juzang, Switchable wing who makes big shots. Really like his make up.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1059 » by 31to6 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:14 pm

just a sobering reminder that — ages ago, now — we were talking about taking Terrence Clarke in the second round. Wonder who has to be off the board to actually do that.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1060 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:28 pm

Watching some Combine Scrimmage highlights.

I like what I'm seeing from Austin Reaves, Quentin Grimes, and Moses Wright.

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