If It Is To Be Said. So It Be. So It Is. The First Deadline Trade Thread.

[Celts17Pride]

Not to nitpick, but TPEs aren't things that get traded. They're tools teams use to absorb salary. Pacers will generate their own TPE in the amount of Holiday's salary if Indy isn't taking on salary from us or a third team.

I also highly doubt Cs want to go into tax for Aaron Holiday. Salary has to be outgoing in that type of deal.

I fully understand Holiday would be absorbed into the a Celtics existing TPE and Indy would get a 2nd round pick. My point is if the Celtics were interested it wouldn't be for Romeo Langford.

It has to be someone who has a higher salary than Holiday ($6M) and lets us get under the tax. Curm also meant JUSTIN Holiday, right? Aaron plays for the Wizards.

Again as I mentioned a page back I think the only way the Celtics would be interested is if they did a 3 for 1 deal moving two of (Langford, Nesmith and Richardson) otherwise Holiday would just further stifle Langford and Nesmith.

[bisme37]

Udoka has been better lately since I was at peek peak "hating" him a couple weeks ago. Or maybe the team has gotten better at doing what he wants. Or both. Whatever the case, I can't complain about Coach very much atm.

[zoyathedestroya]

I fully understand Holiday would be absorbed into the a Celtics existing TPE and Indy would get a 2nd round pick. My point is if the Celtics were interested it wouldn't be for Romeo Langford.

It has to be someone who has a higher salary than Holiday ($6M) and lets us get under the tax. Curm also meant JUSTIN Holiday, right? Aaron plays for the Wizards.

Again as I mentioned a page back I think the only way the Celtics would be interested is if they did a 3 for 1 deal moving two of (Langford, Nesmith and Richardson) otherwise Holiday would just further stifle Langford and Nesmith.

Yeah, just butting in to shed light on the technical **** + numbers and how it could affect decision-making.

[Jaqua92]

Anything new?

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[playa-hater]

Udoka has been better lately since I was at peek "hating" him a couple weeks ago. Or maybe the team has gotten better at doing what he wants. Or both. Whatever the case, I can't complain about Coach very much atm.

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that's what a few victories can do for some.. Don't worry. I'll stand strong for you.. Ime still sucks!!

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, I was thinking Justin Holiday. Schroder and Langford for Justin Holiday works financially and gets the Celtics under the tax. One question is whether or not Broderic Thomas is worth developing instead of Langford. I think that comparison favors Langford, but not by much.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Is the Schroder for Jaylen Smith rumor still alive? I like that one. I know we probably won't be able to keep him but maybe if he likes it here, they could make something work.

Also, did JRich leave DAL on good terms? With Hardaway out, JRich would be very helpful to them. MAybe we can get a pick out of it.

Moving Schroder and JRich opens the doors for PP, Langford, and Nesmith to get more PT which is important for their development and to increase their value.

Smith is currently out of the rotation since the Suns signed Bismack Biyombo. Josh can't go back to Dallas this year.

[Celts17Pride]

Yes, I was thinking Justin Holiday. Schroder and Langford for Justin Holiday works financially and gets the Celtics under the tax.

but why would you do that? Justin Holiday is not that good.

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, I was thinking Justin Holiday. Schroder and Langford for Justin Holiday works financially and gets the Celtics under the tax.

but why would you do that? Justin Holiday is not that good.

Neither are Schroder and Langford, who has clearly lost the minutes battle to Nesmith. And remember that the Celtics have another similar player waiting in France.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Holiday only makes sense as a veteran bench shooter if you're playing him with Richardson - unless you're moving Josh to get under the tax and have the room afterwards to take back salary.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Justin Holiday would be a TPE trade, christ. You don't give away Langford

[Bill Lumbergh]

I suspect either Nesmith or Langford is moved by the deadline.

Also, can see Horford being moved to the bench or getting dealt, and Richardson starting.

I hope it would be Nesmith then. I like Romeo way better than Nesmith. I still think Romeo has a lot of untapped potential. Not high on Nesmith at all.

Was odd to see Nesmith play before Romeo yesterday. Might be showcasing Nesmith?

I thought so too, since I thought Romeo has been looking like a legit player instead of an unknown with potential recently.

[Larry_Russell]

Not to nitpick, but TPEs aren't things that get traded. They're tools teams use to absorb salary. Pacers will generate their own TPE in the amount of Holiday's salary if Indy isn't taking on salary from us or a third team.

I also highly doubt Cs want to go into tax for Aaron Holiday. Salary has to be outgoing in that type of deal.

I fully understand Holiday would be absorbed into the a Celtics existing TPE and Indy would get a 2nd round pick. My point is if the Celtics were interested it wouldn't be for Romeo Langford.

It has to be someone who has a higher salary than Holiday ($6M) and lets us get under the tax. Curm also meant JUSTIN Holiday, right? Aaron plays for the Wizards.

Schroder for Frank
Romeo for Holiday

Under the tax and done

Smart/Pritch/Frank
Brown/Richardson/Dozier
Tatum/Nesmith/Hauser
Holiday/Grant/BolBol
Timelord/Horford/Kanter

[Curmudgeon]

Justin Holiday would be a TPE trade, christ. You don't give away Langford

Why not? to get under the tax? He's the 12th man who has been beaten out by Nesmith.

[Larry_Russell]

Justin Holiday would be a TPE trade, christ. You don't give away Langford

I know Celtics fans value Romeo overly high, but I dont think anyone else. does.

[rd26]

Udoka has been better lately since I was at peek "hating" him a couple weeks ago. Or maybe the team has gotten better at doing what he wants. Or both. Whatever the case, I can't complain about Coach very much atm.

I actually think he's either brought in a consultant or turned the offense over to an assistant 6 or 8 games back. If so, its a VERY smart move.

For a couple of weeks, we have had several new plays / actions that just weren't there before. The Jays are much more involved at the same time now. Passing and shot selection has been better from both also.

I've been very down on Ime, but credit where its due, the offense has looked much more fluid the last 2 weeks

[Bill Lumbergh]

Let's check the room temperature here. Who would you rather keep, Romeo or Nesmith? Me, Romeo. Romeo is already a competent defender, for starters. Seems to have a better feel for the game, imo, too.

[Curmudgeon]

The offense has looked more fluid since Smart returned. It wasn't exactly fluid against the Blazers or the Hornets, when Smart was out.

[Curmudgeon]

Justin Holiday would be a TPE trade, christ. You don't give away Langford

I know Celtics fans value Romeo overly high, but I dont think anyone else. does.

The Pacers might because Romeo is an Indiana schoolboy legend.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Justin Holiday would be a TPE trade, christ. You don't give away Langford

Why not? to get under the tax? He's the 12th man who has been beaten out by Nesmith.

I know you love to pour cold water on everything but he hasn't been "beaten out by Nesmith", Ime usually only plays one of them behind JRich. He's 22 years old under team control, Holiday is 32. There's no reason to give up on Romeo at this point for a 32 year old role-player.