Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

[Bohemian]

too much silence...

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Update from Danny:

https://www.asherrodblakely.com/post/the-latest-from-the-celtics-biggest-cheerleader

[Larry_Russell]

Not sure how anyone can watch Nesmith and Langford and be like "yup, we're all set on the wing. Spoon-feed them big minutes."

That is, if you actually want to win NBA games.

Nesmith still looks really wild out there. He's all over the place and not necessarily in a good way. Last year I thought it was all due to nervous energy (since he was also airballing 3s and missing FTs). Not sure what to make of it now but hopefully he'll get better.

I kinda liked what I saw from Langford. It's apparent that Mazulla's point of emphasis on him is to be more of a playmaker. He did have 4 assists and still looked to be the most capable penetrator out there but he also had a few turnovers. The good thing is his outside shot looks good. He's quite the opposite of Nesmith. He always looks calm, collected, and almost non-chalant. He may not be the scorer we expected of him when he was drafted but he could be a nice Swiss knife type of player.

I agree though that these 2 shouldn't be locks for the backup wing spots in the 2nd unit. If we get a guy like Schroder, it slides either Smart or Richardson down to the 2nd unit, and Langford and Nesmith will have to fight over 1 backup wing spot.

Guys like Nesmith should spend much of their summer at a pro scrimmaging camp, where they can go against other pros, with intensive coaching. I guess in a sense that's where he is now, but maybe they should have sent a team to Utah, too.

And I still think Smart and Richardson is a bad backcourt combo. The starting lineup and overall roster still need adjustment.

I highly doubt richardson and smart play many minutes together.

[Tyakack]

too much silence...

Dame and Beal to boston confirmed.

[Theocy]

Nesmith still looks really wild out there. He's all over the place and not necessarily in a good way. Last year I thought it was all due to nervous energy (since he was also airballing 3s and missing FTs). Not sure what to make of it now but hopefully he'll get better.

I kinda liked what I saw from Langford. It's apparent that Mazulla's point of emphasis on him is to be more of a playmaker. He did have 4 assists and still looked to be the most capable penetrator out there but he also had a few turnovers. The good thing is his outside shot looks good. He's quite the opposite of Nesmith. He always looks calm, collected, and almost non-chalant. He may not be the scorer we expected of him when he was drafted but he could be a nice Swiss knife type of player.

I agree though that these 2 shouldn't be locks for the backup wing spots in the 2nd unit. If we get a guy like Schroder, it slides either Smart or Richardson down to the 2nd unit, and Langford and Nesmith will have to fight over 1 backup wing spot.

Guys like Nesmith should spend much of their summer at a pro scrimmaging camp, where they can go against other pros, with intensive coaching. I guess in a sense that's where he is now, but maybe they should have sent a team to Utah, too.

And I still think Smart and Richardson is a bad backcourt combo. The starting lineup and overall roster still need adjustment.

I highly doubt richardson and smart play many minutes together.

I want to say maybe there are scenarios they both play- perhaps the Jets? I'd expect Smart to guard one of Harden / Kyrie whilst Richardson is trying to slow down the other? Am i overestimating how good Richardson is?

You can probably argue that you can just burn some **** sage and oregano before the jump-ball and stop kyrie from playing (his chakra won't align with the negative energy in the garden) but still - sticking to basketball principles only. That duo could be helpful? Worst case scenario Richardson supplies the sage

[zoyathedestroya]

Our coach is now even wiser than when we hired him. Good luck to the rest of the league!

[Dannyboy36]

So nobody expects Marcus to agree to that extension , right? Low ball? So what do we end up offering in the end? Then he’s probably traded I would think if possible.

[sam_I_am]

So nobody expects Marcus to agree to that extension , right? Low ball? So what do we end up offering in the end? Then he’s probably traded I would think if possible.

If Smart really wanted that extension he would have signed it already. If he signs it, he could be traded to a crappy team or a town he wouldn’t want to live in. As a free agent, Boston might be his first choice but if they go after Beal he won’t get stuck. He also, more than likely, gets a better deal as he likely puts up good numbers this year.

Schroeder signing might sway him to take this deal, however, as he risks losing starting job.

Meanwhile, I think if Celtics leaked story about offer to Schroeder today its probably because they don’t expect him to take it. If Schroeder’s agent leaked it it’s because they are hoping for an offer from another team.

[Curmudgeon]

Frankly if Madar and Pritchard continue to play as well as they did on Sunday, I could take or leave Schroder, especially if they keep Dunn. Yes, I realize it's just Summer league, but we're talking about Smart's backup here.

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Guys like Nesmith should spend much of their summer at a pro scrimmaging camp, where they can go against other pros, with intensive coaching. I guess in a sense that's where he is now, but maybe they should have sent a team to Utah, too.

And I still think Smart and Richardson is a bad backcourt combo. The starting lineup and overall roster still need adjustment.

I highly doubt richardson and smart play many minutes together.

I want to say maybe there are scenarios they both play- perhaps the Jets? I'd expect Smart to guard one of Harden / Kyrie whilst Richardson is trying to slow down the other? Am i overestimating how good Richardson is?

You can probably argue that you can just burn some **** sage and oregano before the jump-ball and stop kyrie from playing (his chakra won't align with the negative energy in the garden) but still - sticking to basketball principles only. That duo could be helpful? Worst case scenario Richardson supplies the sage

A Smart/Richardson backcourt could probably force another butt fumble if they played the Jets.

[cloverleaf]

So nobody expects Marcus to agree to that extension , right? Low ball? So what do we end up offering in the end? Then he’s probably traded I would think if possible.

If Smart really wanted that extension he would have signed it already. If he signs it, he could be traded to a crappy team or a town he wouldn’t want to live in. As a free agent, Boston might be his first choice but if they go after Beal he won’t get stuck. He also, more than likely, gets a better deal as he likely puts up good numbers this year.

Schroeder signing might sway him to take this deal, however, as he risks losing starting job.

Meanwhile, I think if Celtics leaked story about offer to Schroeder today its probably because they don’t expect him to take it. If Schroeder’s agent leaked it it’s because they are hoping for an offer from another team.

Smart could be holding out for that last $2M a year the C's reportedly withheld from this offer. Or trying to wait out the Schroder threat.

[Curmudgeon]

Meh. I don't think Smart views Schroder as a threat. In fact, if the Celtics can swing a sign and trade for Schroder, there is slightly less chance that Smart will finish his career as a Wizard.

[cloverleaf]

Meh. I don't think Smart views Schroder as a threat. In fact, if the Celtics can swing a sign and trade for Schroder, there is slightly less chance that Smart will finish his career as a Wizard.

How do you figure that?

(And no team has ever come close to offering Smart $84M.)

[playa-hater]

Meh. I don't think Smart views Schroder as a threat. In fact, if the Celtics can swing a sign and trade for Schroder, there is slightly less chance that Smart will finish his career as a Wizard.

How do you figure that?

(And no team has ever come close to offering Smart $84M.)

I think Smart is a better all around player, but I see Shroeder better suited to be a starting level PG. I would rather Smart return to his 6th man role.

[Parliament10]

So, if we can't Trade Edwards, then we'd likely pick up his 2022 Option, and Stretch him over 5 years.
That would be something like $356,525/yr.

Time to get rid of this Guy.

[cloverleaf]

The Jays wanted a new coach and they sure got one. The fresh air of truth is bracing and refreshing:

Read on Twitter

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So, if we can't Trade Edwards, then we'd likely pick up his 2022 Option, and Stretch him over 5 years.
That would be something like $356,525/yr.

Time to get rid of this Guy.

I don't even want to give him that respect. Worst case they ride his contract out this year and he's off the books for when it matters.

[cloverleaf]

Meh. I don't think Smart views Schroder as a threat. In fact, if the Celtics can swing a sign and trade for Schroder, there is slightly less chance that Smart will finish his career as a Wizard.

How do you figure that?

(And no team has ever come close to offering Smart $84M.)

I think Smart is a better all around player, but I see Shroeder better suited to be a starting level PG. I would rather Smart return to his 6th man role.

I'm pretty sure Smart wouldn't be too happy with that.

[greenroom31]

How do you figure that?

(And no team has ever come close to offering Smart $84M.)

I think Smart is a better all around player, but I see Shroeder better suited to be a starting level PG. I would rather Smart return to his 6th man role.

I'm pretty sure Smart wouldn't be too happy with that.

Smart has spent most of his career in a hybrid bench/starter role... he can deal with it. Also, I see no reason why we wouldn't start Schroder and Smart, or at least close with the two of them at times. So long as Smart has a legit role and ~30 mpg I can't see him being a jerk... and if he is, time to trade him.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't think Smart would have a problem with that at all. It's not the team that starts, it's the team that finishes.

Smart's big problem that he can't handle losing. He's almost pathological about it, like the time he put his fist through the picture frame.