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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1061 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:22 pm

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With a little health luck we could have been in the finals, at least, with Kemba year 1. Danny made a good move with what he knew at the time and it nearly worked perfectly!


easier to look back and judge....however, I think the right move would have been resigning Horford and keeping Rozier. But whatever...what's done is done. Kemba seems like a great guy, I wish him well.


But if they resigned Rozier would Tatum have continued to develop to what he is today? Remember part of that whole deal was that Rozier felt that at the time he was a better player than Kyrie and wanted to be "the man". Rozier is at best a complimentary piece not a center piece on a contender. He's good where he's at since Charlotte will never win anything and he can put up garbage points as the #1/#2 option.


it doesn't really matter. fact of the matter is I didn't dislike the Kemba move when it happened. obviously, he didn't work out for long as a Celtic...Stinks. O well.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1062 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:45 pm

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1063 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 6, 2021 2:58 pm

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No real surprise. Doubt he makes it the year in Portland.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1064 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:05 pm

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No real surprise. Doubt he makes it the year in Portland.


Yup. Whether they trade for someone like Ben Simmons and continue on with Dame, or trade Dame and completely blow it up, Portland is in a tough spot.
Let's also not discount the fact that Dame hasn't been good so far this season. His numbers are down across the board. Starting to show his age a bit. He could very well have a reemergence soon, but this sample size of subpar play and injuries is really the first example of slippage from Dame.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1065 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:07 pm

I personally think Portland should have a fire sale and trade Covington, Lillard, CJ, Nance, Nurkic and Powell rebuild and go the way of OKC. Portland is going nowhere fast.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1066 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:19 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I personally think Portland should have a fire sale and trade Covington, Lillard, CJ, Nance, Nurkic and Powell rebuild and go the way of OKC. Portland is going nowhere fast.


100%. And they need to act fast before player value is diminished. I have no idea who their next GM will be, but if it's Ainge I would imagine he tears the house down.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1067 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 3:30 pm

What's the best deal Portland could get for Dame right now? Is Ben Simmons the best return? Probably not. Nor do I think Portland would want Simmons if Dame wasn't also going to be there in Portland. CJ package for Simmons is Eh for Portland. Good deal for Philly because Simmons value is pretty low right now.....
If you're Portland would a 3-team trade make sense? Simmons goes elsewhere (Sacto?) a package of players/picks goes to Portland (Haliburton, etc), and Dame to Philly.....As a Celtics fan I DO NOT want to see Dame team up with Embiid...Between BK/Bucks/Philly/Miami the East would be super tough...
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1068 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:26 pm

ddb wrote:What's the best deal Portland could get for Dame right now? Is Ben Simmons the best return? Probably not. Nor do I think Portland would want Simmons if Dame wasn't also going to be there in Portland. CJ package for Simmons is Eh for Portland. Good deal for Philly because Simmons value is pretty low right now.....
If you're Portland would a 3-team trade make sense? Simmons goes elsewhere (Sacto?) a package of players/picks goes to Portland (Haliburton, etc), and Dame to Philly.....As a Celtics fan I DO NOT want to see Dame team up with Embiid...Between BK/Bucks/Philly/Miami the East would be super tough...



Hard to say.

Would have to be someone with loads of picks they can give up.

Wouldnt hate having nance and or powell on this team. Would push the bench into contender status.

Smart/schro
Brown/powell
Tatum/richardson
Grant/nance
Timelord/horford
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1069 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:32 pm

Apparently dame wants the blazers to trade for simmons.

Not sure how that deal works but would love to help facilitate it.

I assume no cj to leave portland with
Dame
Cj
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Nurkic
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1070 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:33 pm

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ddb wrote:What's the best deal Portland could get for Dame right now? Is Ben Simmons the best return? Probably not. Nor do I think Portland would want Simmons if Dame wasn't also going to be there in Portland. CJ package for Simmons is Eh for Portland. Good deal for Philly because Simmons value is pretty low right now.....
If you're Portland would a 3-team trade make sense? Simmons goes elsewhere (Sacto?) a package of players/picks goes to Portland (Haliburton, etc), and Dame to Philly.....As a Celtics fan I DO NOT want to see Dame team up with Embiid...Between BK/Bucks/Philly/Miami the East would be super tough...



Hard to say.

Would have to be someone with loads of picks they can give up.

Wouldnt hate having nance and or powell on this team. Would push the bench into contender status.

Smart/schro
Brown/powell
Tatum/richardson
Grant/nance
Timelord/horford


Interesting. So what is your Bos/Port trade idea? Powell just signed a big ticket. I'm not sure I like the idea of bringing him in...I like the player, but not the contract. He's good.....but not a star
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1071 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:36 pm

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ddb wrote:What's the best deal Portland could get for Dame right now? Is Ben Simmons the best return? Probably not. Nor do I think Portland would want Simmons if Dame wasn't also going to be there in Portland. CJ package for Simmons is Eh for Portland. Good deal for Philly because Simmons value is pretty low right now.....
If you're Portland would a 3-team trade make sense? Simmons goes elsewhere (Sacto?) a package of players/picks goes to Portland (Haliburton, etc), and Dame to Philly.....As a Celtics fan I DO NOT want to see Dame team up with Embiid...Between BK/Bucks/Philly/Miami the East would be super tough...



Hard to say.

Would have to be someone with loads of picks they can give up.

Wouldnt hate having nance and or powell on this team. Would push the bench into contender status.

Smart/schro
Brown/powell
Tatum/richardson
Grant/nance
Timelord/horford


Interesting. So what is your Bos/Port trade idea? Powell just signed a big ticket. I'm not sure I like the idea of bringing him in...I like the player, but not the contract. He's good.....but not a star


Powell would have to come cheap. Thinking tpe comes into play as well to try and make it happen.

Not sure what would get it all done, but I would be very interested.

Pritchard is probably high value there or schroder
Juancho as an expiring
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Romeo or nesmith
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1072 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:43 pm

I have zero interest in Normal Powell, who is a smurf.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1073 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:43 pm

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Hard to say.

Would have to be someone with loads of picks they can give up.

Wouldnt hate having nance and or powell on this team. Would push the bench into contender status.

Smart/schro
Brown/powell
Tatum/richardson
Grant/nance
Timelord/horford


Interesting. So what is your Bos/Port trade idea? Powell just signed a big ticket. I'm not sure I like the idea of bringing him in...I like the player, but not the contract. He's good.....but not a star


Powell would have to come cheap. Thinking tpe comes into play as well to try and make it happen.

Not sure what would get it all done, but I would be very interested.

Pritchard is probably high value there or schroder
Juancho as an expiring
Picks
Romeo or nesmith


Powell cannot be traded quite yet because he just signed a new deal, but once he's eligible you have my attention. He's a lights out shooter, really good complimentary scorer...Solid defender despite being only 6'3. At 28 years old and on a long-term deal, I would imagine Portland would be open to move him if they decide to tear things down. I'm not sure Boston has what it would take to acquire him....For sure Pritchard/Nesmith and multiple 1sts as a starting point. Brad would have to be sold that Powell is the type of guy that could get this team into contention....

Schorder-Powell-JB-JT-Al closing 5 would be lights out...
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1074 » by ddb » Mon Dec 6, 2021 4:45 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I have zero interest in Normal Powell, who is a smurf.


He's an AWESOME shooter with ice in his veins. He would work wonders for this team opening things up for JT/JB. I just don't think Boston would be able to get a deal done as Powell would have plenty of suitors around the league
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Post#1075 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 6, 2021 5:21 pm

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Interesting. So what is your Bos/Port trade idea? Powell just signed a big ticket. I'm not sure I like the idea of bringing him in...I like the player, but not the contract. He's good.....but not a star


Powell would have to come cheap. Thinking tpe comes into play as well to try and make it happen.

Not sure what would get it all done, but I would be very interested.

Pritchard is probably high value there or schroder
Juancho as an expiring
Picks
Romeo or nesmith


Powell cannot be traded quite yet because he just signed a new deal, but once he's eligible you have my attention. He's a lights out shooter, really good complimentary scorer...Solid defender despite being only 6'3. At 28 years old and on a long-term deal, I would imagine Portland would be open to move him if they decide to tear things down. I'm not sure Boston has what it would take to acquire him....For sure Pritchard/Nesmith and multiple 1sts as a starting point. Brad would have to be sold that Powell is the type of guy that could get this team into contention....

Schorder-Powell-JB-JT-Al closing 5 would be lights out...



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Post#1076 » by BK_2020 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 5:27 pm

sam_I_am wrote:I still say no. Brown is a proven winner who substantially raises his game in playoff unlike Simmons or Sabonis who usually wilt in playoffs.

Jaylen was a literal zero last playoffs.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1077 » by Hal14 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:22 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:I still say no. Brown is a proven winner who substantially raises his game in playoff unlike Simmons or Sabonis who usually wilt in playoffs.

Jaylen was a literal zero last playoffs.

lol not a fair thing to say cause he didn't even play in last year's playoffs due to injury.

That's like saying Steph Curry and Durant were a zero in 2020 playoffs and Klay Thompson was a zero in 2021 playoffs.

Injuries happen, man.

When Brown was healthy in 2020 playoffs, he was awesome.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1078 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:22 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:I still say no. Brown is a proven winner who substantially raises his game in playoff unlike Simmons or Sabonis who usually wilt in playoffs.

Jaylen was a literal zero last playoffs.

He didn’t play. Jaylen Brown has always played well in the playoffs. Your narrative is old and sickening
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1079 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 7:19 pm

Best return for dame? Jaylen is right there with any package if not the best asset himself if Boston wanted to do it. Portland wants a rebuild package? flip brown to a 3rd team. Get dame first and then use dame and Tatum to recruit beal via a S&T.

Brown/Richardson/nesmith or pp/picks. head into free agency with 2 of beal’s close friends recruiting.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

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