Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[Andrew McCeltic]

Horford to LAC, Bledsoe and Nesmith to OKC, Morris and Favors to BOS

[Shak_Celts]

Who knows if Ime would play either of those two anyway

There is NO DOUBT he'd play Jefe. He knows his role and can play. He's not always good/great but he can give us a boost off the bench in the role we wanted Nesmith to fill. I just want to know who or what we need to give, it better be seconds and a small TPE!

[Larry_Russell]

Why are people advocating for morris?

Anyone remember his time here and fighting with his teammates?

Send him to a 3rd team(dallas)

[Andrew McCeltic]

Who knows if Ime would play either of those two anyway

There is NO DOUBT he'd play Jefe. He knows his role and can play. He's not always good/great but he can give us a boost off the bench in the role we wanted Nesmith to fill. I just want to know who or what we need to give, it better be seconds and a small TPE!

Hope so - agree Green would help as a rotation guy even at his age. Not sure why Denver would trade him, though, and giving up anything more than one or two second rounders would be idiotic. I guess it's a lost season for the Nuggets with Murray and MPJ out all year

[Stan34]

Marcus Morris is a good fit here. Tough player on both ends. MM is a bucket

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Does he fit the TPE? Not sure why we'd go deep in the tax for him and not Fournier, but he was good for us (apart from the chucking) and would help.

Can't see LAC taking Horford to match salary unless we're sending more value back - Nesmith? Maybe get a pick from a third team for Schroeder and send it to LA?

When PO time come Fournier becomes a mediocre player at best. Morris is on another level. There are RS player and PO player.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

Jalen Smith highlights:

Watch on YouTube

22 in March, good athlete, doesn't impress me. Screams good backup center as his ceiling, but you'd probably be able to re-up him at less than the MLE for a year or two. That's a useful piece to have.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Love the glasses though

[CelticFaninLBC]

Horford to LAC, Bledsoe and Nesmith to OKC, Morris and Favors to BOS

Can see something like that. Perhaps get Tre Mann from OKC and send them Nesmith...

[Shak_Celts]

I remember seeing the deadline is a month away recently, but why does it feel like I saw that a month ago?! END ALREADY!!!

[Andrew McCeltic]

Horford to LAC, Bledsoe and Nesmith to OKC, Morris and Favors to BOS

Can see something like that. Perhaps get Tre Mann from OKC and send them Nesmith...

Not sure. Bledsoe's also only guaranteed for 3.9 million next season, that affects the math for LA, he's not an albatross. They'd be doing it to get out of Morris' money, they might want Grant Williams or Schroeder coming along with Horford. OKC might have to send something back, yeah - they'd be saving about 6 million next year by releasing Bledsoe (unless Favors somehow opted out of his last season, which is hugely unlikely), so that's a pure gain for them and they wouldn't need Nesmith as an incentive unless someone else was making a better offer.

[Asian Celtic]

We need two players who can stand in the corners and shoots 3s at a good percentage for 20 minutes a game each.

I feel like you and me have been preaching this for YEARS.

Sounds like PJ Tucker. Can defend too!

[Fencer reregistered]

Interesting we’re linked to the kind of modest, marginal but smart on paper deals we had over the summer. Jeff Green over Jabari and Jalen Smith over Fernando is an upgrade..

Stevens likes to hit singles, whereas Ainge tried to hit home runs.

Ainge was here because his baseball career fizzled.

His baseball career fizzled because he couldn't hit curveballs.

(I actually mean that literally as well as metaphorically. At least, that's how the story goes. But pretty much the same is said about every outstanding athlete who has a poor batting average in pro baseball, e.g. Michael Jordan.)

[Jammer]

Interesting we’re linked to the kind of modest, marginal but smart on paper deals we had over the summer. Jeff Green over Jabari and Jalen Smith over Fernando is an upgrade..

Stevens likes to hit singles, whereas Ainge tried to hit home runs.

Ainge was here because his baseball career fizzled.

His baseball career fizzled because he couldn't hit curveballs.

(I actually mean that literally as well as metaphorically. At least, that's how the story goes. But pretty much the same is said about every outstanding athlete who has a poor batting average in pro baseball, e.g. Michael Jordan.)

Yeah, Ainge couldn't hit curveballs, but that baseball contract before the NBA Draft meant you'd have to pay him like a #5 pick to get him to leave the Blue Jays, but if he didn't leave you wasted the pick. I always felt that Ainge used the baseball contract to finagle his way to Boston by scaring all the other teams off. The Celtics had just won the 1981 NBA Championship, Danny signed his baseball deal with an out at the end of the baseball season to try the NBA, no one wanted to waste a pick that didn't think he'd shift gears (and pay him accordingly), and the Celtics landed him with a #31 pick or something like that. Always thought it was a ruse from the moment he signed with Toronto. The Celtics were an opportunity for his 3 point shooting AND SPACING at SG to immediately see playing time, and Boston was willing to pay him like he was a #5 pick or so to get him to give up all that guaranteed 4 year baseball money (they play 162 games in baseball).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Horford to LAC, Bledsoe and Nesmith to OKC, Morris and Favors to BOS

Can see something like that. Perhaps get Tre Mann from OKC and send them Nesmith...

Not sure. Bledsoe's also only guaranteed for 3.9 million next season, that affects the math for LA, he's not an albatross. They'd be doing it to get out of Morris' money, they might want Grant Williams or Schroeder coming along with Horford. OKC might have to send something back, yeah - they'd be saving about 6 million next year by releasing Bledsoe (unless Favors somehow opted out of his last season, which is hugely unlikely), so that's a pure gain for them and they wouldn't need Nesmith as an incentive unless someone else was making a better offer.

OKC has playmakers in SAG and Giddey, so Mann seems expendable and Nesmith fits well with them.

LAC shaves about $7 million of salary, which saves some of the luxury tax. Yes, Ballmer is loaded, but there's no reason to spend an outrageous amount of luxury tax this year when they aren't contenders.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Mann is showing more than Nesmith, you don't give away a third guard. Theo Maledon's realistic.

[Fencer reregistered]

Stevens likes to hit singles, whereas Ainge tried to hit home runs.

Ainge was here because his baseball career fizzled.

His baseball career fizzled because he couldn't hit curveballs.

(I actually mean that literally as well as metaphorically. At least, that's how the story goes. But pretty much the same is said about every outstanding athlete who has a poor batting average in pro baseball, e.g. Michael Jordan.)

Yeah, Ainge couldn't hit curveballs, but that baseball contract before the NBA Draft meant you'd have to pay him like a #5 pick to get him to leave the Blue Jays, but if he didn't leave you wasted the pick. I always felt that Ainge used the baseball contract to finagle his way to Boston by scaring all the other teams off. The Celtics had just won the 1981 NBA Championship, Danny signed his baseball deal with an out at the end of the baseball season to try the NBA, no one wanted to waste a pick that didn't think he'd shift gears (and pay him accordingly), and the Celtics landed him with a #31 pick or something like that. Always thought it was a ruse from the moment he signed with Toronto. The Celtics were an opportunity for his 3 point shooting AND SPACING at SG to immediately see playing time, and Boston was willing to pay him like he was a #5 pick or so to get him to give up all that guaranteed 4 year baseball money (they play 162 games in baseball).

Cool story. But his baseball career lasted 2 seasons, so I imagine some of your suggested strategy details aren't precisely correct.

I do recall that when he joined the Celtics there was an air of "no big surprise", so I doubt your narrative is wholly wrong either.

[celtxman]

Horford to LAC, Bledsoe and Nesmith to OKC, Morris and Favors to BOS

I like trades like this that make sense. The only team in the NBA that might pay Horford $28 million would be the Celtics and that would only be because they would feel they couldn't replace him for the buyout money. Meanwhile the Clippers are paying George and Leonard $80 million next season and Morris has 2 years left. It might take a little more. The Clippers could pull an OKC and sit Horford. Not impossible for Horford to return to Boston

[Tatumfor2]

Is SGA just a pipe dream? No one brings him up anymore.

[Jammer]

Ainge was here because his baseball career fizzled.

His baseball career fizzled because he couldn't hit curveballs.

(I actually mean that literally as well as metaphorically. At least, that's how the story goes. But pretty much the same is said about every outstanding athlete who has a poor batting average in pro baseball, e.g. Michael Jordan.)

Yeah, Ainge couldn't hit curveballs, but that baseball contract before the NBA Draft meant you'd have to pay him like a #5 pick to get him to leave the Blue Jays, but if he didn't leave you wasted the pick. I always felt that Ainge used the baseball contract to finagle his way to Boston by scaring all the other teams off. The Celtics had just won the 1981 NBA Championship, Danny signed his baseball deal with an out at the end of the baseball season to try the NBA, no one wanted to waste a pick that didn't think he'd shift gears (and pay him accordingly), and the Celtics landed him with a #31 pick or something like that. Always thought it was a ruse from the moment he signed with Toronto. The Celtics were an opportunity for his 3 point shooting AND SPACING at SG to immediately see playing time, and Boston was willing to pay him like he was a #5 pick or so to get him to give up all that guaranteed 4 year baseball money (they play 162 games in baseball).

Cool story. But his baseball career lasted 2 seasons, so I imagine some of your suggested strategy details aren't precisely correct.

I do recall that when he joined the Celtics there was an air of "no big surprise", so I doubt your narrative is wholly wrong either.

[BostonCouchGM]

Marcus Morris is a good fit here. Tough player on both ends. MM is a bucket

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Yes. The trade that makes the most sense. LAC doesn’t have a 1st and will tank. Could use Morris to get 1st round talents like Pritchard and Nesmith plus Grant. Morris slides in at the 4 and Tatum stays at the 3. Really want to free Pritchard and Nesmith. They deserve better