Boston All-Sports Thread

[Captain_Caveman]

Fun stat. Stidham has 4 picks in 20 career attempts. The only QB to get 4 picks quicker? Nathan Peterman in 19 attempts. Imagine thinking he was good

Was dead wrong about cam. But dead right on Stidham. Who was supposed to beat out Cam but couldn't even beat out Hoyer. Dont think i forgot that.

Am I allowed to respond to this?

I don't see what is so off-topic or against board rules about it.

[Captain_Caveman]

Patriots can't afford to lose this.
They'd be down 2-5.

Seasons over now.

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Yep. Might as well play Stidham the whole way from now on.
Give the Kid some experience.

This team has two things going for it. A few more years of Belichick coaching and a major cap room advantage next year during a pandemic that will leave other teams bleeding cash.

It never mattered who we had at QB for this **** team. Which by my count means Stidham should have played all along. Cam is a washed up waste of time and resources during this development year. Which FWIW, is exactly what I said about all of this all along. That didn't make me a Stidham stan or a plastic fan, just accurate.

Spoiler:

That Hayward take wont age well, either. Haha.

[bobbutts]

That was a game we were expected to lose and we came close. Have none of you ever routed for a below average team?

[SmartWentCrazy]

Seasons over now.

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Yep. Might as well play Stidham the whole way from now on.
Give the Kid some experience.

This team has two things going for it. A few more years of Belichick coaching and a major cap room advantage next year during a pandemic that will leave other teams bleeding cash.

It never mattered who we had at QB for this **** team. Which by my count means Stidham should have played all along. Cam is a washed up waste of time and resources during this development year. Which FWIW, is exactly what I said about all of this all along. That didn't make me a Stidham stan or a plastic fan, just accurate.

Spoiler:

That Hayward take wont age well, either. Haha.

You said that Stidham would be the 25th to 30th best QB in the league. Thats... not accurate.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Fun stat. Stidham has 4 picks in 20 career attempts. The only QB to get 4 picks quicker? Nathan Peterman in 19 attempts. Imagine thinking he was good

Was dead wrong about cam. But dead right on Stidham. Who was supposed to beat out Cam but couldn't even beat out Hoyer. Dont think i forgot that.

Am I allowed to respond to this?

I don't see what is so off-topic or against board rules about it.

Feel free; lord knows im not going to report you.

You chirped me last week. I told you I was wrong on Cam a week ago. Took it. You chirped again today, despite the team doing shockingly well considering they trotted out Myers, Zuber, Byrd and Gunner for WRs. You can keep going, I’m not gonna fight you on Cam bashing.

But dont think I will let pound your chest and let you off the hook for the other half of your take. Stidham is more likely to be out of the NFL next year than a top 30 QB

Spoiler:

And I hope it does, re Hayward; he’s not as good as you think he is and the team will be better off with the TPE

[Captain_Caveman]

That was a game we were expected to lose and we came close. Have none of you ever routed for a below average team?

We are Pats fans, and forgot about that.

[Captain_Caveman]

Fun stat. Stidham has 4 picks in 20 career attempts. The only QB to get 4 picks quicker? Nathan Peterman in 19 attempts. Imagine thinking he was good

Was dead wrong about cam. But dead right on Stidham. Who was supposed to beat out Cam but couldn't even beat out Hoyer. Dont think i forgot that.

Am I allowed to respond to this?

I don't see what is so off-topic or against board rules about it.

Feel free; lord knows im not going to report you.

You chirped me last week. I told you I was wrong on Cam a week ago. Took it. You chirped again today, despite the team doing shockingly well considering they trotted out Myers, Zuber, Byrd and Gunner for WRs. You can keep going, I’m not gonna fight you on Cam bashing.

But dont think I will let pound your chest and let you off the hook for the other half of your take. Stidham is more likely to be out of the NFL next year than a top 30 QB

Spoiler:

And I hope it does, re Hayward; he’s not as good as you think he is and the team will be better off with the TPE

Oh, we are going to PM now, haha.

Thanks Cave.

[wco81]

They may have a lot of cap space but what is the largest contract they've ever given out?

Can you envision them giving out say a $200 million contract with $120 million guaranteed to a QB?

Or say $100 million for a 4-5 year deal with a topflight WR with at least $60 million guaranteed?

Or say a $100 million for a edge rusher who will get double-digit sacks a year?

Pats haven't been big players in free agency have they?

[Captain_Caveman]

They may have a lot of cap space but what is the largest contract they've ever given out?

Can you envision them giving out say a $200 million contract with $120 million guaranteed to a QB?

Or say $100 million for a 4-5 year deal with a topflight WR with at least $60 million guaranteed?

Or say a $100 million for a edge rusher who will get double-digit sacks a year?

Pats haven't been big players in free agency have they?

They paid Gilmore.

But that is besides the point. Pats are a team that wins with depth. They don't blow money on big name WRs or RBs like dumb teams do. Belichick's degree is actually in Economics. He sets a price and sticks with it. He literally has a 20 year track record of letting core players go rather than overpaying them. I'd say that strategy has turned out pretty well. Only guy that has ever made me even blink during that time was Chandler Jones, and we made three straight Super Bowls right afterwards, winning two and nearly all three.

Belichick understands value and how to maximize it. Dude has built or been instrumental in helping to build like 6-7 different contending teams in the salary cap era, and has a long track record of adapting to changes in the rules and the nature of the game better than anyone else.

My guess is that he will exploit the loss of league revenue far better than most teams. Not by being a big player on Day One of free agency like dumb teams, but on Day Three, as he has always done. Will probably add half a dozen starting caliber guys that he can coach up. That was the half of the draw of Stidham. It was three years of rookie scale that gave Belichick two offseasons with an extra $20m to work with. Niners should consider that with Jimmy this offseason, because as it turns out, he is an injury-prone bum.

[Saint Lazarus]

Big picture wise, them losing this game is a good thing.

I won’t say I was rooting against them, but I’m not exactly upset.

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

[Captain_Caveman]

Big picture wise, them losing this game is a good thing.

I won’t say I was rooting against them, but I’m not exactly upset.

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

I don't see the generational talent with Lawrence.

Nice prospect. Not worth tanking for.

[Parliament10]

Big picture wise, them losing this game is a good thing.

I won’t say I was rooting against them, but I’m not exactly upset.

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

I don't see the generational talent with Lawrence.

Nice prospect. Not worth tanking for.

Fire Sale!!!
Pick up some more picks.

[Feed Your Head]

Big picture wise, them losing this game is a good thing.

I won’t say I was rooting against them, but I’m not exactly upset.

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

I don't see the generational talent with Lawrence.

Nice prospect. Not worth tanking for.

I actually like Lance more, just in that his upside is pretty ridiculous. More risk of course, but that dude is ridiculously talented.

[Saint Lazarus]

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

I don't see the generational talent with Lawrence.

Nice prospect. Not worth tanking for.

I actually like Lance more, just in that his upside is pretty ridiculous. More risk of course, but that dude is ridiculously talented.

As long as we’re drafting top 4 in every round idgaf who y’all think is the generational talent. I don’t watch a second of CFB, I just want the opportunity to load our team up with talent.

[Bleeding Green]

That was a game we were expected to lose and we came close. Have none of you ever routed for a below average team?

The record is hideous, but they've had three games where they've had the ball, marching down the field with a chance to win it in the final few minutes. Failed all three times, of course, but for a team that missed a ton of players to opt-outs, their starting QB and DPOY CB to covid for multiple weeks, no practices for 2 weeks, it's not that bad. If Newton doesn't fumble against Buffalo and gets one more yard against Seattle, the perception is wildly different. I expect them to be in every game going forward and it's just a matter of not fumbling the games away really.

[Bostondave]

They may have a lot of cap space but what is the largest contract they've ever given out?

Can you envision them giving out say a $200 million contract with $120 million guaranteed to a QB?

Or say $100 million for a 4-5 year deal with a topflight WR with at least $60 million guaranteed?

Or say a $100 million for a edge rusher who will get double-digit sacks a year?

Pats haven't been big players in free agency have they?

They paid Gilmore.

But that is besides the point. Pats are a team that wins with depth. They don't blow money on big name WRs or RBs like dumb teams do. Belichick's degree is actually in Economics. He sets a price and sticks with it. He literally has a 20 year track record of letting core players go rather than overpaying them. I'd say that strategy has turned out pretty well. Only guy that has ever made me even blink during that time was Chandler Jones, and we made three straight Super Bowls right afterwards, winning two and nearly all three.

Belichick understands value and how to maximize it. Dude has built or been instrumental in helping to build like 6-7 different contending teams in the salary cap era, and has a long track record of adapting to changes in the rules and the nature of the game better than anyone else.

My guess is that he will exploit the loss of league revenue far better than most teams. Not by being a big player on Day One of free agency like dumb teams, but on Day Three, as he has always done. Will probably add half a dozen starting caliber guys that he can coach up. That was the half of the draw of Stidham. It was three years of rookie scale that gave Belichick two offseasons with an extra $20m to work with. Niners should consider that with Jimmy this offseason, because as it turns out, he is an injury-prone bum.

The principle employed by Bellichick was one that enabled competitive teams BUT it is also one that leaves a lot of championships on the ground wasted. How much better would the Pats have been if Bellichick PAID players as opposed to sticking to his cheap principle?

And there should be at least ONE more championship against Philly and that idiot inexplicable benching of Malcolm Butler. How in the hell he expected to pull a key secondary player and win will be a mystery for the ages.

Bellichick is an evil genius, key on evil. WIth all of his success he has no good will built up. He's too big of an ahole. He's got no loyalty buffer from the players, from the fans, from the area. He's too big of a ahole for that. We've left a lot of championships on the ground like so much rotting apples.

And frnakly I'm pissed at how we treated Brady. he deserved better and he was a generaional talent and individual that it will take a long time before we see again between his talent, dedication and willingness to work to win. That was a big mistake, as we're seeing now. But that was all Bellichick again being an ahole.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I was watching it half asleep and actually willed that Cam fumble because I was having a fever dream of us drafting Trevor Lawrence. Our tank survives to fight another day

I don't see the generational talent with Lawrence.

Nice prospect. Not worth tanking for.

I actually like Lance more, just in that his upside is pretty ridiculous. More risk of course, but that dude is ridiculously talented.

He’s my guy, too.

[SmartWentCrazy]

They may have a lot of cap space but what is the largest contract they've ever given out?

Can you envision them giving out say a $200 million contract with $120 million guaranteed to a QB?

Or say $100 million for a 4-5 year deal with a topflight WR with at least $60 million guaranteed?

Or say a $100 million for a edge rusher who will get double-digit sacks a year?

Pats haven't been big players in free agency have they?

They paid Gilmore.

But that is besides the point. Pats are a team that wins with depth. They don't blow money on big name WRs or RBs like dumb teams do. Belichick's degree is actually in Economics. He sets a price and sticks with it. He literally has a 20 year track record of letting core players go rather than overpaying them. I'd say that strategy has turned out pretty well. Only guy that has ever made me even blink during that time was Chandler Jones, and we made three straight Super Bowls right afterwards, winning two and nearly all three.

Belichick understands value and how to maximize it. Dude has built or been instrumental in helping to build like 6-7 different contending teams in the salary cap era, and has a long track record of adapting to changes in the rules and the nature of the game better than anyone else.

My guess is that he will exploit the loss of league revenue far better than most teams. Not by being a big player on Day One of free agency like dumb teams, but on Day Three, as he has always done. Will probably add half a dozen starting caliber guys that he can coach up. That was the half of the draw of Stidham. It was three years of rookie scale that gave Belichick two offseasons with an extra $20m to work with. Niners should consider that with Jimmy this offseason, because as it turns out, he is an injury-prone bum.

From Wesleyan too— the underrated thing about BB is that he’s legitimately brilliant.

The Patriots pay people when they think its worth it. They paid Adalius Thomas, gave big extensions to Moss and Dillon. They’ll pay up when they find the market inefficiency.

The one semi-mistake was when we had Collins, Jones, Hightower and Butler coming up. We figured we could leverage Butler to sign a good long term deal early on when we had him real cheap for a few years but he wanted max dollars and his agent didnt really get it. Oh well.

My only ask for the team is that they pay the **** out of some WRs this year. Cant watch another year of dudes struggling to create separation.

[BillTheGOAT]

Season can still be turned around to the positive, meaning a playoff spot. Seven teams will make it this year opposed to six in previous years. I think the new format is here to stay.

I had them at 4-5 after week 9 but with different outcomes. This is till possible with a win over the Jets then upsetting the Ravens. Who btw doesnt look like the juggernaut they were last year.

I also wouldn’t give up on the division title just yet. The Bills still has Seattle, Arizona, Pittsburgh, 49ers on their schedule and the Patriots in foxborough.

If the Pats dont win the division they could get in with one of the 3 non division winning playoff spots.


Pats play the Jets twice.
Bills at home late in december.

Ravens in foxborough.

Chargers then Rams on a short week in LA.

Arizona in Foxborough.

@ Houston who sucks badly.

@ Miami in december, they have looked good lately, Pats have struggled in Miami over the years but I thought that was a Brady reason, Cam is 3-0 vs Miami over his career.

So looking at this schedule I say the worst part of it is over, could have had a couple of wins against Denver and Buffalo and everything would have looked that much better.

Chiefs, 49ers (both super bowl teams)
Seattle on a goal line stand
Only stinker was against Denver


They need to go 7-2 at least to be in the playoff race, or 8-1.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah, looking at that schedule, 3 wins may be generous. Got a real shot at 4-12.

Lucky thing for us is that Miami owns Houstons pick— zero chance theyre tanking.