Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

[Triple7]

It’s right there! “didn’t want to get into dysfunction” obvious jab

That dysfunction part is not even quoted.
Brown, didn't say anything about it, specifically.

Well it could be nothing, or it could be something. Anyways, lets all just chill!

[Dannyboy36]

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I’ll believe it when I see it. I don’t know how you develop great chemistry when there’s such a strong chance one of our best players will be traded by mid season. Not easy,as well intentioned as players can be.

[SichtingLives]

Whats the dude supposed to say though. "You know, it sucks man. We still don't like each other. Gordon up in his, little ass, video games ignorin' errbudy. Jaylen think he Neil Tyson out this bish. Jayson talkin bout Melo this, Kobe that, Kemba all smilin' n' ****. It's distracting. Semi over here liftin weights Kanter on the run from the gubmints all these triflin ass rookies n' **** man what we need is a big ass trade and I need to get more shots wut wutt"

[Parliament10]

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I’ll believe it when I see it. I don’t know how you develop great chemistry when there’s such a strong chance one of our best players will be traded by mid season. Not easy,as well intentioned as players can be.

You talking about Hayward?
He's not with them. The 4 Celtics on Team USA are developing chemistry. That's it.

[Feed Your Head]

That dysfunction part is not even quoted.
Brown, didn't say anything about it, specifically.

Well it could be nothing, or it could be something. Anyways, lets all just chill!

No, it is clearly nothing. Be better.

[FlatearthZorro]

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/08/jaylen-browns-looming-extension-talks-hand-boston-celtics-a-uniquely-difficult-decision-tom-westerholm.html

tl;dr FO really likes Langford; a Brown trade could make sense. Probably for a center.

The list of bigs we could get for Jaylen is short - Sabonis, Carter Jr., Bamba, Adebayo, Zach Collins, maybe Harry Giles - who isn't really a center.

Adding Smart+ to match salary tilts the value too much out of our favor.

If we want a more effective defensive big, the value is in moving Hayward, but it won't happen until mid-season, if Brown shows he hasn't plateaued, Gordon is healthy, and we're not on track for 55+ wins.

Carter Jr. for Brown I might do, but major health risk on our end - Bamba is a special prospect but he doesn't help us now. Love Sabonis but Brown is an overpay (don't want to move Langford for him, either), and Sabonis has a low ceiling on defense. He's not Enes Kanter, but the odds he masters positioning like Pachulia or Gasol and does it soon are low. He also can't shoot or score with the ball enough right now to make up for it.

The FO ie Brad. Brad has a hard-on for any good Indiana prospect/player. Anyhow Langford does have a pretty decent potential and a Brown or Hayward trade has made sense for a while now... I think we're super wing heavy again and somebody is bound to be unhappy like it was last year. I wouldn't mind Hayward staying for the long haul. I think he will dominate this year and he's still only 29 and the type of ball he plays he will be pretty darn good for another 4 years, imo. He's really technical and steady in his approach to b-ball.

[TheOGJabroni]

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/08/jaylen-browns-looming-extension-talks-hand-boston-celtics-a-uniquely-difficult-decision-tom-westerholm.html

tl;dr FO really likes Langford; a Brown trade could make sense. Probably for a center.

The list of bigs we could get for Jaylen is short - Sabonis, Carter Jr., Bamba, Adebayo, Zach Collins, maybe Harry Giles - who isn't really a center.

Adding Smart+ to match salary tilts the value too much out of our favor.

If we want a more effective defensive big, the value is in moving Hayward, but it won't happen until mid-season, if Brown shows he hasn't plateaued, Gordon is healthy, and we're not on track for 55+ wins.

Carter Jr. for Brown I might do, but major health risk on our end - Bamba is a special prospect but he doesn't help us now. Love Sabonis but Brown is an overpay (don't want to move Langford for him, either), and Sabonis has a low ceiling on defense. He's not Enes Kanter, but the odds he masters positioning like Pachulia or Gasol and does it soon are low. He also can't shoot or score with the ball enough right now to make up for it.

I would trade brown for wcj in a heartbeat. Fills a position of need, a couple of extra years of cost control and from what I understand he is very versatile. Aside from breaking his hand, I didn't know he had an injury history. Bulls have a few guards, why would they make the move for brown? I would send brown and bucks pick for wcj

WCJr for Brown? Bulls would demand the Memphis pick and probably thensome. They are super high on him.

I would still be interested. Brown, RWIII & the Memphis pick for WCJ?

He makes a ton of sense to me. I think he can develop into an Al Horford type player. He can play as a center or as a PF with another big as well. He's extremely versatile & would give us a lot more options.

[Fencer reregistered]

Reminder, with special reference to the Langford love: The front office has negotiating-tactics reasons right now to remind people they can contemplate life without Jaylen.

[cloverleaf]

I would trade brown for wcj in a heartbeat. Fills a position of need, a couple of extra years of cost control and from what I understand he is very versatile. Aside from breaking his hand, I didn't know he had an injury history. Bulls have a few guards, why would they make the move for brown? I would send brown and bucks pick for wcj

WCJr for Brown? Bulls would demand the Memphis pick and probably thensome. They are super high on him.

I would still be interested. Brown, RWIII & the Memphis pick for WCJ?

He makes a ton of sense to me. I think he can develop into an Al Horford type player. He can play as a center or as a PF with another big as well. He's extremely versatile & would give us a lot more options.

Way too much.

[zoyathedestroya]

BORING OFFSEASON FUN FACT QUESTION TIME!

In the last 30 seasons, there has only been ONE Celtics draftee who has made the playoffs in every season he has been in the NBA (minimum 5 seasons). NAME THIS CELTICS (WINNING) PLAYER. GO.

You win an and-1 and a lifetime non-ban (per approval of mods) if you get the answer correctly.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

BORING OFFSEASON FUN FACT QUESTION TIME!

In the last 30 seasons, there has only been ONE Celtics draftee who has made the playoffs in every season he has been in the NBA (minimum 5 seasons). NAME THIS CELTICS (WINNING) PLAYER. GO.

You win an and-1 and a lifetime non-ban (per approval of mods) if you get the answer correctly.

Marcus Smart

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I've thought of Brown for Carter, but there's just one itsy bitsy problem, the Bulls have Lavine and they acquired Porter last season, so there's really not a big need for Brown. You can make the case both Lavine and Porter right now are better than Brown. But they could have some interest in the Memphis Pick.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

BBB: Bring Back Baynes

For next season obviously.
Might make a lot of sense.
He loves Boston.
You can sign him with one of the exceptions.
It's not a big future priority but just a solid Offseason move.

[Feed Your Head]

BORING OFFSEASON FUN FACT QUESTION TIME!

In the last 30 seasons, there has only been ONE Celtics draftee who has made the playoffs in every season he has been in the NBA (minimum 5 seasons). NAME THIS CELTICS (WINNING) PLAYER. GO.

You win an and-1 and a lifetime non-ban (per approval of mods) if you get the answer correctly.

Marcus Smart

[Darth Celtic]

BBB: Bring Back Baynes

For next season obviously.
Might make a lot of sense.
He loves Boston.
You can sign him with one of the exceptions.
It's not a big future priority but just a solid Offseason move.

he would have to be traded again to another team, then later traded to us. Don't think he can sign here. The GP rule.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

My Serendipitously Underrated Trade Of The Month...

Hayward/Brown/Smart/Ojeyle for Beal and Wall

Why for the Wizards?

The Wizards are able to dump the contract of Wall while at the same time receiving a solid pay out for Beal. I'm assuming that Hayward will be at least 75 percent or more back to his old All Star form, and thus quite tradeable for them, or he will opt out and they'll be free of his salary. Smart can easily be moved; as well as Ojeyle, to a contender out West who needs someone to defend Bron/Kawhi and Brown's likely a keeper.

Why for the Celtics?

The Wall/Beal Cap Hit is ouch!
But it could leave the Cs with s fantastic guard rotation in the future. Imagine a returning Wall as your Third Guard for one season, and then you trade him or move Kemba.

The main selling point for this deal is it allows the Celtics to acquire an All Star, while at the same time, holding on to their Rookie Prospects and the Memphis Pick, along with several other future Draft Picks.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

BBB: Bring Back Baynes

For next season obviously.
Might make a lot of sense.
He loves Boston.
You can sign him with one of the exceptions.
It's not a big future priority but just a solid Offseason move.

he would have to be traded again to another team, then later traded to us. Don't think he can sign here. The GP rule.

I was thinking of the 2020 off season... Do it in July, a year after his trade to the Suns.
But I could be wrong...

[Darth Celtic]

BBB: Bring Back Baynes

For next season obviously.
Might make a lot of sense.
He loves Boston.
You can sign him with one of the exceptions.
It's not a big future priority but just a solid Offseason move.

he would have to be traded again to another team, then later traded to us. Don't think he can sign here. The GP rule.

I was thinking of the 2020 off season... Do it in July, a year after his trade to the Suns.
But I could be wrong...

next league year we can. Don't forget next year we have our pick, bucks pick, and good chance at griz pick. And full MLE to work with. Where do we fit them all and baynes?

Kanter is likely to leave for more money. Semi, Theis, Poirer and Wannamaker can be dumped for nothing. I guess if we let all of them go we'd be ok. Or if griz pick doesn't convert. Or we trade JB and Bucks pick for 1 player.

Lots of moving parts but I think our roster will be full the next 3 years.

[Edug27]

BBB: Bring Back Baynes

For next season obviously.
Might make a lot of sense.
He loves Boston.
You can sign him with one of the exceptions.
It's not a big future priority but just a solid Offseason move.

he would have to be traded again to another team, then later traded to us. Don't think he can sign here. The GP rule.

I was thinking of the 2020 off season... Do it in July, a year after his trade to the Suns.
But I could be wrong...

Don't think we need him that badly... or at all.

[Ernest]

I don’t really get the lack of understanding some players have about how Smart contributes. What are you all watching? The dude is a tremendous defender, pretty good ball handler and passer, and was a passable shooter this year. 1st team all defense and NBA hustle award. He is the heart and soul of this team.

Some people just decide they hate a player. I seem to remember rondo leading the league in assists and some on here calling him a selfish ball hog

Both things are compatible, you can pass and have the ball much more time than you should.

Agree to disagree I guess. To me it seems obvious if you are leading the league in setting teammates up for baskets your not being selfish and you probably should have the ball in your hands a lot.

I do get that there was a bit of, "Let's keep Rondos 10 a game 100 games(or whatever it was) streak alive!" But this is good team building.

My overall point in comparing Rondo and Smart was to compare the irrational hate. Everyone can have different opinions, but my opinion is that both guys were great players in Boston.

It seems like you can name any Celtic, current or past (not before the internet though) and you'll find some posters here who hate them. Probably they made a hot take or two one them and then got blasted and doubled down on it, and now they just look to bash. And this is not pointed at you Higgs, just a general thought.