Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25

[chrisab123]

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I floated a Thompson/George idea earlier in the week. Makes sense. I can't see either guy leaving CA.

[shackles10]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

[Celtics_Champs]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

I’ve been asking how the Warriors do anything they do since July 4th 2016

[Celts17Pride]

If someone had half a brain in Phoenix they would be looking to move Durant or Booker and get a huge haul for one of them. They are stuck with Bradley Beal for now. Durant/Booker/Beal is a failure and won't work in the future. Now is the Suns chance to save their franchise from being irrelevant for the next 5 years.

Durant to the Rockets makes so much sense given the Rockets young players and draft picks that they have available.

[hugepatsfan]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/_/year/2024

They're a second apron team right now because they're including CP3's $30M totally NONGUARANTEED salary and Klay's ridiculous $45.85M cap hold. They can waive CP3's non guaranteed deal and either renounce Klay's bird rights or sign him to a smaller deal that replaces his larger cap hold.

Spotrac has their active roster about $13.3M below the 2nd apron. They can waive CP3 to get about $43.3M below it. If they trade Wiggins/Looney/Payton/Kuminga/Moody for PG that's salary neutral. So still about the same amount of room. Then they re-sign Klay for like $20M and backfill with vet min deals.

Curry
Podz / Klay
PG
Draymond
TJD

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Probably true.

HAS to be IST Champ vs NBA champ

[shackles10]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/_/year/2024

They're a second apron team right now because they're including CP3's $30M totally NONGUARANTEED salary and Klay's ridiculous $45.85M cap hold. They can waive CP3's non guaranteed deal and either renounce Klay's bird rights or sign him to a smaller deal that replaces his larger cap hold.

Spotrac has their active roster about $13.3M below the 2nd apron. They can waive CP3 to get about $43.3M below it. If they trade Wiggins/Looney/Payton/Kuminga/Moody for PG that's salary neutral. So still about the same amount of room. Then they re-sign Klay for like $20M and backfill with vet min deals.

Curry
Podz / Klay
PG
Draymond
TJD

Is that a package that gets PG though?

[hugepatsfan]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/_/year/2024

They're a second apron team right now because they're including CP3's $30M totally NONGUARANTEED salary and Klay's ridiculous $45.85M cap hold. They can waive CP3's non guaranteed deal and either renounce Klay's bird rights or sign him to a smaller deal that replaces his larger cap hold.

Spotrac has their active roster about $13.3M below the 2nd apron. They can waive CP3 to get about $43.3M below it. If they trade Wiggins/Looney/Payton/Kuminga/Moody for PG that's salary neutral. So still about the same amount of room. Then they re-sign Klay for like $20M and backfill with vet min deals.

Curry
Podz / Klay
PG
Draymond
TJD

Is that a package that gets PG though?

PG has a player option. It's kind of the same scenario as us getting Porzingis last year. Teams don't get full value in that spot.

[shackles10]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/_/year/2024

They're a second apron team right now because they're including CP3's $30M totally NONGUARANTEED salary and Klay's ridiculous $45.85M cap hold. They can waive CP3's non guaranteed deal and either renounce Klay's bird rights or sign him to a smaller deal that replaces his larger cap hold.

Spotrac has their active roster about $13.3M below the 2nd apron. They can waive CP3 to get about $43.3M below it. If they trade Wiggins/Looney/Payton/Kuminga/Moody for PG that's salary neutral. So still about the same amount of room. Then they re-sign Klay for like $20M and backfill with vet min deals.

Curry
Podz / Klay
PG
Draymond
TJD

Is that a package that gets PG though?

PG has a player option. It's kind of the same scenario as us getting Porzingis last year. Teams don't get full value in that spot.

True. So he opts in and Clippers get that. He opts out and they get nothing and probably lose Harden as well. Only difference with KP though is PG has more options on teams willing to pay up if he opts in compared to Porzingis last year. Sooner than later Dubs are going to have to make decisions on CP3 and Klay if PG or Clippers drag their feet.

[31to6]

Agreed, but I think that's the tradeoff. Dude is pretty strong, but he's not standing up Embiid. I don't think Freeman is much better, or even as good, in that respect though. With both, you're getting more of a big wing / small ball 5 defensively. Freeman's an inch taller and 5lbs lighter than Mogbo. Same wingspan (7'2"). I think both can survive, but they're not shutting down the top centers. I think Dray is a good comp. Obviously he's elite, but Mogbo is really good in similar areas. And has the same crucial flaw in shooting. With KP or Al, it's easy to play him. WIth Queta it could be ugly. With X it could be hilarious.

EDIT: Against IND would be a great scenario you could play him as small ball 5. He'd thrive against a guy like Turner, imo. But back to the basket centers aren't really ideal.

Ayo get this draft talk out of my face, I’m not trying to see any of that until Brad has settled on which one or two second rounders he’s leaving draft night with.

Good call. I did want Ayo in his draft.

Because of you I did read up on Mogbo. The only guy I know anything about now. I HOPE WE GET HIM!

Or, someone else. Totally fine with someone else, too.

[keevsnick1]

Dubs are a 2nd apron team right? How do they even acquire PG when they can’t aggregate salaries?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/_/year/2024

They're a second apron team right now because they're including CP3's $30M totally NONGUARANTEED salary and Klay's ridiculous $45.85M cap hold. They can waive CP3's non guaranteed deal and either renounce Klay's bird rights or sign him to a smaller deal that replaces his larger cap hold.

Spotrac has their active roster about $13.3M below the 2nd apron. They can waive CP3 to get about $43.3M below it. If they trade Wiggins/Looney/Payton/Kuminga/Moody for PG that's salary neutral. So still about the same amount of room. Then they re-sign Klay for like $20M and backfill with vet min deals.

Curry
Podz / Klay
PG
Draymond
TJD

If I was Golden State I might rather use CP3 as the matching salary and keep Wiggins while letting Thompson walk. Its not entirely impossible even you could work out some sort of Wink-Wink deal with Klay where he takes a small salary next year with a promise of a new long term deal in 2025, that would allow you to fill out the roster next year while keeping all five core guys, but it would take a lot of trust on Klay's part.

But man a Curry/Klay/George/Wiggins/Greene lineup might be something of you could get there.

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Meh, I'm sure every team is active. Remember, Pat McAfee is an Indy guy. He's probably pestering his guests on that show saying what is Indy doing as opposed to Windy really having info he wants to share on them.

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Talk about an organization that is going nowhere fast - Atlanta

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[Parasite]

It will be interesting to see what Brad’s response to this is. If the Knicks can stay healthy they are now a very formidable opponent.

There is no response when it comes to trades.

All the Cs can do is sign vets minimum guys.

Well I meant will he now go all out to sign Derrick White to an extension? How about Hauser? The Tatum deal is a no-brainer. Does this change anything with the draft? Stuff like that.

[hugepatsfan]

IMO, the best case scenario offseason for us would be...

Paul George spurns Philly and stays in the west.

PHI outbids NYK for OG considering their hard cap situation. This turns the Bridges trade into an expensive lateral move for NYK talent wise when paired with OG leaving.

PHI also outbids DEN for KCP with the rest of their cap. Would weaken DEN who is the toughest matchup for us out west. These moves make PHI better, but not on our level still.

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