Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

[jaypete34133413]

You would really give up Jordan Crawford and Jeff Green for that weak trade....My line up in my previous post is way better then what you just posted... Come on man....and Bradley is actually good....there's No proven scorer or dominate player in your line up man.....that is horrible..smh.....what exactly are you looking for that team will never see the finals...smh

[Gugna]

You would really give up Jordan Crawford and Jeff Green for that weak trade....My line up in my previous post is way better then what you just posted... Come on man....and Bradley is actually good....there's No proven scorer or dominate player in your line up man.....that is horrible..smh.....what exactly are you looking for that team will never see the finals...smh

If you think Amar'e+Granger minus Rondo is what makes us better than the Heat you are hugely deluded. Granger and Green can't coexist in the same lineup no matter what. Amar'e is not even a shell of his old self and will probably amount to nothing in a 7-game series(IF we take it that far which is a bigger IF than Amar'e being healthy at all.) You need to rethink this through and come back with a better suggestion.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Tyreke Evans would be a nice fit

Granger and Hill would be Lovely

I'm a Sully fan but with back issues like his I don't know....also he's a shorty for that position

I honestly think that Amaré needs a new home and watch him pick it up

I think this line up can defeat the Heat and its possible too obtain these players

Crawford / Hill
Granger/ Bradley
Green
Stat/Sully
A.O

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[brackdan70]

Tyreke Evans would be a nice fit

Granger and Hill would be Lovely

I'm a Sully fan but with back issues like his I don't know....also he's a shorty for that position

I honestly think that Amaré needs a new home and watch him pick it up

I think this line up can defeat the Heat and its possible too obtain these players

Crawford / Hill
Granger/ Bradley
Green
Stat/Sully
A.O

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[brackdan70]

A Larry Sanders/Sully combo would be amazing. I hope Danny has been on the phone with them trying to get something done.

I agree it is pretty intriguing, I think the possibility of getting Sanders and staying under the tax is pretty small.

From the Hoops Rumors link
"Further complicating any trade is the Poison Pill Provision, which would come in to play since Sanders signed a rookie scale extension that hasn’t kicked in yet. His $3.053MM salary for this season would count as his outgoing salary for Milwaukee, but he’d represent about $7.027MM in incoming salary for the team that acquires him. That figure is the average between Sanders’ 2013/14 salary and the average annual value of his extension. So, any trade would have to include additional salary going out on both sides, or a third team."

So if we use the TPE from Pierce Trade we could land him with a pick or two going out probably, but would definitely go into tax territory. We could stretch Wallace to save about 5 million + right...So would need another trade where we shed 2 million to get back under the tax.(Lee and pick(s) for Hayward?) possible I guess. But then we have Sanders for 4 years and 44 million. Is that a contract we want while rebuilding? I am not so sure. Would almost guarantee we go into the tax next season.

[jaypete34133413]

I'm actually from NY and I watch more Knicks games then all of you and he's really still good he's just not getting play time I'm serious....and Granger and Green might have a better chance then Pierce and Johnson I bet you thought that would work it and its Joe Johnson gunning all the time preventing Paul too get into his rhythm..and you act like the Celtics will get worse with Granger ! I mean look at us now....Ive been reading this forum for years and guess what ....yall still have the same dum ideas....trying too trade establish talent for young guys who aren't gonna be that good...So I know that team would be deadly if healthy....they are all young and Watch Rondo get hurt again....ever since DWade hurt His elbow Rondo has been getting hurt....he has a attitude problem shoving refs and all like wake up
....stop it...yall trade ideas is horrible ...

[15th overall]

Unless there's a time machine on hand, Amare would never start over Sully at this point. Also, Rondo's elbow has literally nothing to do with his ACL-- none, no connection whatsoever.

[AKFO]

I'm actually from NY and I watch more Knicks games then all of you and he's really still good he's just not getting play time I'm serious....and Granger and Green might have a better chance then Pierce and Johnson I bet you thought that would work it and its Joe Johnson gunning all the time preventing Paul too get into his rhythm..and you act like the Celtics will get worse with Granger ! I mean look at us now....Ive been reading this forum for years and guess what ....yall still have the same dum ideas....trying too trade establish talent for young guys who aren't gonna be that good...So I know that team would be deadly if healthy....they are all young and Watch Rondo get hurt again....ever since DWade hurt His elbow Rondo has been getting hurt....he has a attitude problem shoving refs and all like wake up
....stop it...yall trade ideas is horrible ...

Please post more; I haven't laughed this hard in a while

[Roddy]

Thaddeus Young / Evan Turner / Jason Richardson
for
Kris Humphries / Jeff Green / Jordan Crawford / 1st round pick.

Rondo / Pressey
Avery / Lee / Brooks / Richardson
Turner / Wallace
Young / Bass / Olynyk
Sully / Faverani

[GreenFor3]

I'm actually from NY and I watch more Knicks games then all of you and he's really still good he's just not getting play time I'm serious....and Granger and Green might have a better chance then Pierce and Johnson I bet you thought that would work it and its Joe Johnson gunning all the time preventing Paul too get into his rhythm..and you act like the Celtics will get worse with Granger ! I mean look at us now....Ive been reading this forum for years and guess what ....yall still have the same dum ideas....trying too trade establish talent for young guys who aren't gonna be that good...So I know that team would be deadly if healthy....they are all young and Watch Rondo get hurt again....ever since DWade hurt His elbow Rondo has been getting hurt....he has a attitude problem shoving refs and all like wake up
....stop it...yall trade ideas is horrible ...

So you're a Knicks fan? On their board they say Rondo isn't even worth THJ and Sump, let alone any picks, as well as us taking back Amare. Two old injury prone guys to replace our best player won't make us better than Miami. Not sure how trading Rondo in his prime for two guys who used to be good is an example of how smart you are.

Speaking of Amare, he just got posterized by Reggie Jackson haha. The Knicks suck.

[GreenFor3]

Thaddeus Young / Evan Turner / Jason Richardson
for
Kris Humphries / Jeff Green / Jordan Crawford / 1st round pick.

Rondo / Pressey
Avery / Lee / Brooks / Richardson
Turner / Wallace
Young / Bass / Olynyk
Sully / Faverani

We'd need to pay Turner after the year and Thad doesn't help much, I'd rather get a center so Sully can develop in his natural position. Adding a first on top of that too is just pointless. I doubt we'd want to pay Turner what he wants, or that he'd want to resign here. I think the only way that we'd do that trade was if we got rid of Wallace as well, or you could take the pick out and maybe, but it's just a lateral move.

[brackdan70]

Thaddeus Young / Evan Turner / Jason Richardson
for
Kris Humphries / Jeff Green / Jordan Crawford / 1st round pick.

Rondo / Pressey
Avery / Lee / Brooks / Richardson
Turner / Wallace
Young / Bass / Olynyk
Sully / Faverani

We'd need to pay Turner after the year and Thad doesn't help much, I'd rather get a center so Sully can develop in his natural position. Adding a first on top of that too is just pointless. I doubt we'd want to pay Turner what he wants, or that he'd want to resign here. I think the only way that we'd do that trade was if we got rid of Wallace as well, or you could take the pick out and maybe, but it's just a lateral move.

agree i don't really see the point except to help Philly

[shawn unkempt]

A Larry Sanders/Sully combo would be amazing. I hope Danny has been on the phone with them trying to get something done.

I agree it is pretty intriguing, I think the possibility of getting Sanders and staying under the tax is pretty small.

From the Hoops Rumors link
"Further complicating any trade is the Poison Pill Provision, which would come in to play since Sanders signed a rookie scale extension that hasn’t kicked in yet. His $3.053MM salary for this season would count as his outgoing salary for Milwaukee, but he’d represent about $7.027MM in incoming salary for the team that acquires him. That figure is the average between Sanders’ 2013/14 salary and the average annual value of his extension. So, any trade would have to include additional salary going out on both sides, or a third team."

So if we use the TPE from Pierce Trade we could land him with a pick or two going out probably, but would definitely go into tax territory. We could stretch Wallace to save about 5 million + right...So would need another trade where we shed 2 million to get back under the tax.(Lee and pick(s) for Hayward?) possible I guess. But then we have Sanders for 4 years and 44 million. Is that a contract we want while rebuilding? I am not so sure. Would almost guarantee we go into the tax next season.

Hmm, I didn't realize that was the case. Wouldn't sending the salaries of Bogans and a smaller one like Brooks be enough to keep us out of the tax with that provision? I'm not sure how the Poison Pill interacts with matching salaries. Obviously the whole point of the deal would involve some pick(s) coming from us, too.

I think Sanders salary is definitely reasonable, considering his already great defense and offensive potential out of the pick and roll, he could develop into a Tyson Chandler type. Even if he doesn't reach that, his defense is enough to warrant that deal, IMO. As long as he doesn't regress, anyway (he did have a pretty bad start before he was injured).

[brackdan70]

A Larry Sanders/Sully combo would be amazing. I hope Danny has been on the phone with them trying to get something done.

I agree it is pretty intriguing, I think the possibility of getting Sanders and staying under the tax is pretty small.

From the Hoops Rumors link
"Further complicating any trade is the Poison Pill Provision, which would come in to play since Sanders signed a rookie scale extension that hasn’t kicked in yet. His $3.053MM salary for this season would count as his outgoing salary for Milwaukee, but he’d represent about $7.027MM in incoming salary for the team that acquires him. That figure is the average between Sanders’ 2013/14 salary and the average annual value of his extension. So, any trade would have to include additional salary going out on both sides, or a third team."

So if we use the TPE from Pierce Trade we could land him with a pick or two going out probably, but would definitely go into tax territory. We could stretch Wallace to save about 5 million + right...So would need another trade where we shed 2 million to get back under the tax.(Lee and pick(s) for Hayward?) possible I guess. But then we have Sanders for 4 years and 44 million. Is that a contract we want while rebuilding? I am not so sure. Would almost guarantee we go into the tax next season.

Hmm, I didn't realize that was the case. Wouldn't sending the salaries of Bogans and a smaller one like Brooks be enough to keep us out of the tax with that provision? I'm not sure how the Poison Pill interacts with matching salaries. Obviously the whole point of the deal would involve some pick(s) coming from us, too.

I think Sanders salary is definitely reasonable, considering his already great defense and offensive potential out of the pick and roll, he could develop into a Tyson Chandler type. Even if he doesn't reach that, his defense is enough to warrant that deal, IMO. As long as he doesn't regress, anyway (he did have a pretty bad start before he was injured).

If I understand correctly his outgoing salary is 3 million for Milwaukee and incoming would be 7 million. this seems a little screwy so please correct me if i am off base. But if true what ever Milwaukee gets would have to work as a trade for a 3million dollar guy. So if the Cs want him we need to use the TPE or a pretty weird multi team scenario.

[KJandHondo35]

I agree it is pretty intriguing, I think the possibility of getting Sanders and staying under the tax is pretty small.

From the Hoops Rumors link
"Further complicating any trade is the Poison Pill Provision, which would come in to play since Sanders signed a rookie scale extension that hasn’t kicked in yet. His $3.053MM salary for this season would count as his outgoing salary for Milwaukee, but he’d represent about $7.027MM in incoming salary for the team that acquires him. That figure is the average between Sanders’ 2013/14 salary and the average annual value of his extension. So, any trade would have to include additional salary going out on both sides, or a third team."

So if we use the TPE from Pierce Trade we could land him with a pick or two going out probably, but would definitely go into tax territory. We could stretch Wallace to save about 5 million + right...So would need another trade where we shed 2 million to get back under the tax.(Lee and pick(s) for Hayward?) possible I guess. But then we have Sanders for 4 years and 44 million. Is that a contract we want while rebuilding? I am not so sure. Would almost guarantee we go into the tax next season.

Hmm, I didn't realize that was the case. Wouldn't sending the salaries of Bogans and a smaller one like Brooks be enough to keep us out of the tax with that provision? I'm not sure how the Poison Pill interacts with matching salaries. Obviously the whole point of the deal would involve some pick(s) coming from us, too.

I think Sanders salary is definitely reasonable, considering his already great defense and offensive potential out of the pick and roll, he could develop into a Tyson Chandler type. Even if he doesn't reach that, his defense is enough to warrant that deal, IMO. As long as he doesn't regress, anyway (he did have a pretty bad start before he was injured).

If I understand correctly his outgoing salary is 3 million for Milwaukee and incoming would be 7 million. this seems a little screwy so please correct me if i am off base.

That is correct, 3.5 million for Bucks and 7ish for Celtics. Money wise it shouldn't be a problem bc of the Pierce Trade Exception which is worth 10.2 million. It also would be an issue next year if the contracts we get back are expiring. For instance something like Rondo for Sanders, Knight and Caron Butler (trade Exception) would make Sanders/Knights contract equal to appx 9 mill and Rondos out going 12mill with Butlers 8 expiring.

[KJandHondo35]

Hmm, I didn't realize that was the case. Wouldn't sending the salaries of Bogans and a smaller one like Brooks be enough to keep us out of the tax with that provision? I'm not sure how the Poison Pill interacts with matching salaries. Obviously the whole point of the deal would involve some pick(s) coming from us, too.

I think Sanders salary is definitely reasonable, considering his already great defense and offensive potential out of the pick and roll, he could develop into a Tyson Chandler type. Even if he doesn't reach that, his defense is enough to warrant that deal, IMO. As long as he doesn't regress, anyway (he did have a pretty bad start before he was injured).

If I understand correctly his outgoing salary is 3 million for Milwaukee and incoming would be 7 million. this seems a little screwy so please correct me if i am off base.

That is correct, 3.5 million for Bucks and 7ish for Celtics. Money wise it shouldn't be a problem bc of the Pierce Trade Exception which is worth 10.2 million. It also would be an issue next year if the contracts we get back are expiring. For instance something like Rondo for Sanders, Knight and Caron Butler (trade Exception) would make Sanders/Knights contract equal to appx 9 mill and Rondos out going 12mill with Butlers 8 expiring.

Correction: wouldn't be an issue

[GhostofJizzbird]

Didn't he get involved in a bar fight earlier this year. Anybody else remember the last Milwaukee F/C with a drinking problem we signed? Vin Baker II would scare me to death!

just so we're clear, one bar fight does not = drinking problem

[gammajamma]

Didn't he get involved in a bar fight earlier this year. Anybody else remember the last Milwaukee F/C with a drinking problem we signed? Vin Baker II would scare me to death!

just so we're clear, one bar fight does not = drinking problem

for all we know some drunk idiot could be the one at fault in the situation.

[DK-All Day]

Westbrook for Rondo+filler

Who says no?,assuming Rondo is back to his triple-double a night self.

[GreenFor3]

Westbrook for Rondo+filler

Who says no?,assuming Rondo is back to his triple-double a night self.

OKC says no.