The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many

[OFWGKTA]

Lol at adding Okafor, Waiters, AND JR Smith

[Bohemian]

Here is how I would fill out the rest of the roster

Sign and Trade Zeller and send Marcus Smart to Philly for Okafor
Sign Dion Waiters to a 1 year deal
Sign JR Smith to a 1 year deal

Thus giving us this rotation.

Guards IT Bradley Smith Waiters Rozier
Forwards Brown Crowder Amir Horford
Center: Okafor Amir Horford

10 deep. JJ would be kept as a reserve guy for when someone gets hurt.

Then you can screw around with the rest of the roster. Maybe bring Larry Sanders in on a 1 year deal. McGee maybe as a filler. But what Smith and Waiters do is give you offense. It takes pressure off guys like IT in those types of situations. Smith is an absolute turd but I think you sign those two then you solve the issue that has plagued the team the last two seasons. If Stevens was able to coach up "Big Balls" and Turner then I'd like to see if he can get the potential out of Waiters and Okafor.

So you want to bring Waiters, SMITH, Sanders and McGee...probably the highest IQ´s and best reputations in the league??? :p Wow

Please, just NO

ANd Okafor is worth Smart and Zeller?? That´s what Philly would dream hahha no way it happens!

[SMTBSI]

Completely unscientific/justificationless win estimate using win shares:


'15-'16:

9.7 Thomas
7.3 Crowder
5.9 Johnson
4.8 Bradley
4.8 Sullinger
4.1 Olynyk
4.0 Turner
2.9 Smart
2.4 Jerebko
1.7 Zeller
0.9 Lee
0.3 Hunter
0.1 Young
0.1 Mickey
0.0 Clarke
-0.3 Rozier

~48 Total


'16-'17

9.7 Thomas (same as last year)
9.4 Horford (same as last year, on a 48-win ATL team)
8.0 Crowder (10% greater than last year)
5.0 Bradley (5% greater than last year)
4.5 Olynyk (10% greater than last year)
4.4 Johnson (75% of last year)
3.2 Smart (10% greater than last year)
3.0 Rozier (75% of Turner's last year)
2.9 Brown (same as Smart's rookie year)
1.8 Jerebko (75% of last year)
-.- Hunter (assuming negligible contribution)
-.- Mickey ("")
-.- Young ("")

51.9 Total
x1.05 (5% top-to-bottom improvement for the roster balance Horford provides)

54.5 Wins in '16-'17


Possible subtractions:
- Brown and Rozier fail to make the impact I'm hoping for.
- Amir's health hampers him greatly.
- Injuries, obviously.

Possible additions:
- I've projected only tiny improvements for Jae, AB, Smart, and KO, and really none for Mickey/Hunter. If one or more of them takes a real step...
- Brown blows up and is pushing for a starting spot by ASB.




(And yes, I realize there are all sorts of problems with doing this. For example, projecting IT to have the same WS on a team that actually wins more games means I'm actually projecting a drop in contribution from him. The thing is, this post was a half-***ed commitment from the start.)

[Slartibartfast]

Completely unscientific/justificationless win estimate using win shares:


'15-'16:

9.7 Thomas
7.3 Crowder
5.9 Johnson
4.8 Bradley
4.8 Sullinger
4.1 Olynyk
4.0 Turner
2.9 Smart
2.4 Jerebko
1.7 Zeller
0.9 Lee
0.3 Hunter
0.1 Young
0.1 Mickey
0.0 Clarke
-0.3 Rozier

~48 Total


'16-'17

9.7 Thomas (same as last year)
9.4 Horford (same as last year, on a 48-win ATL team)
8.0 Crowder (10% greater than last year)
5.0 Bradley (5% greater than last year)
4.5 Olynyk (10% greater than last year)
4.4 Johnson (75% of last year)
3.2 Smart (10% greater than last year)
3.0 Rozier (75% of Turner's last year)
2.9 Brown (same as Smart's rookie year)
1.8 Jerebko (75% of last year)
-.- Hunter (assuming negligible contribution)
-.- Mickey ("")
-.- Young ("")

51.9 Total
x1.05 (5% top-to-bottom improvement for the roster balance Horford provides)

54.5 Wins in '16-'17


Possible subtractions:
- Brown and Rozier fail to make the impact I'm hoping for.
- Amir's health hampers him greatly.
- Injuries, obviously.

Possible additions:
- I've projected only tiny improvements for Jae, AB, Smart, and KO, and really none for Mickey/Hunter. If one or more of them takes a real step...
- Brown blows up and is pushing for a starting spot by ASB.




(And yes, I realize there are all sorts of problems with doing this. For example, projecting IT to have the same WS on a team that actually wins more games means I'm actually projecting a drop in contribution from him. The thing is, this post was a half-***ed commitment from the start.)

Fun exercise. I think the additional downside danger for next year is regressions for AB and Jae. Both those guys had unusually good years for their offensive standards.

I also urge caution on projecting positive impact for Rozier and Brown. Rozier was the worst win share guy on the team last year. And Brown was a significantly worse college player than Marcus. I think it's more likely than not that these guys are going to have some major growing pains in significant roles.

A nice jump from Smart should help bridge that gap, though.

I'd be so much more bullish on this team blowing past 50 wins and into the 55-60 club if we got a solid bench scorer like JR Smith or Rudy Gay and limited our dependence on Terry/Jaylen surprising and/or Marcus leaping.

As is I have us still hovering near 50, even with good health.

[SMTBSI]

Fun exercise. I think the additional downside danger for next year is regressions for AB and Jae. Both those guys had unusually good years for their offensive standards.

I also urge caution on projecting positive impact for Rozier and Brown. Rozier was the worst win share guy on the team last year. And Brown was a significantly worse college player than Marcus. I think it's more likely than not that these guys are going to have some major growing pains in significant roles.

A nice jump from Smart should help bridge that gap, though.

I'd be so much more bullish on this team blowing past 50 wins and into the 55-60 club if we got a solid bench scorer like JR Smith or Rudy Gay and limited our dependence on Terry/Jaylen surprising and/or Marcus leaping.

As is I have us still hovering near 50, even with good health.

I'm choosing to have blind faith that AB and Jae will continue to make small, incremental improvements as they continue the journey from 'youth' to 'veteran' status.

But, yeah, my post has heavy dependence on Rozier and Brown contributing meaningfully (contributing ~6.2 WS more than last year). If that doesn't happen, that single-handedly saps away all of my 'projected' improvement.

Otherwise, the idea was to basically include 5-10% improvements for a few younguns, modest drop-offs for a few vets, and treading water for a few mainstays, with the thought being that if one or two guys fall well short of those expectations, one or two might handily surpass it, and it'll all kind of even out.

[OFWGKTA]

We'll flirt with 60 wins as is book it

[165bows]

Smart stands to be the most important guy on this club next year. He can pick up a substantial minutes increase if he can first of all stay relatively healthy, and secondly if so he additionally stands to pick up a bunch of Turner's minutes.

Smart was a lower volume and lower efficiency scorer than Turner last year, but only incrementally. If he can show a modest improvement in offensive production and minutes played it will go a long ways in closing the gap that they need to grab the second seed.

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CJC9BOSS/status/755483267562811393[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/755666444185108480[/tweet]We're in that stretch of the offseason where we try to interpret cryptic tweets, whether they're related to the Celtics or not.

[Asian Celtic]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CJC9BOSS/status/755483267562811393[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/755666444185108480[/tweet]We're in that stretch of the offseason where we try to interpret cryptic tweets, whether they're related to the Celtics or not.

Is that crowder tweet related to that trade rumor on csnne? Maybe he knows something we don't. I don't wanna overthink of crowder being in another team. He worked really hard to be in this position and helped us greatly with his contract. We simply cannot find another wing with starter capability in a bench players contract. Sigh.

[ConstableGeneva]

Spoiler:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CJC9BOSS/status/755483267562811393[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/755666444185108480[/tweet]We're in that stretch of the offseason where we try to interpret cryptic tweets, whether they're related to the Celtics or not.

Is that crowder tweet related to that trade rumor on csnne? Maybe he knows something we don't. I don't wanna overthink of crowder being in another team. He worked really hard to be in this position and helped us greatly with his contract. We simply cannot find another wing with starter capability in a bench players contract. Sigh.

The tweet was about Sherrod Blakely's 5 potential FA targets next offseason. Who knows why Jae reacted that way. Maybe 'cos 4 of the 5 share his position and could take over his starting job? Maybe it's cos Durant's listed there and he knows something we don't about how KD's decision went down? Maybe he just finds all of Blakely's articles boring and irrelevant?

In any case, you still gotta feel for these guys when their names are attached to trade rumors whether they're true or not. Jae is getting paid peanuts while playing the best season of his career and people still want to ship him out. Guy must be miffed. Just hope that he uses it as extra motivation and come out this season even better/angrier lol.

[aim2please]

Jae tweets in ALL CAPS. Every single time. Even his name and description on twitter is in all caps. If I didn't know who he is, I would have questions about his age and/or intelligence. What are the odds that no one mentioned that to him? He has friends/teammates.

[ConstableGeneva]

Jae tweets in ALL CAPS. Every single time. Even his name and description on twitter is in all caps. If I didn't know who he is, I would have questions about his age and/or intelligence. What are the odds that no one mentioned that to him? He has friends/teammates.

Always liked this interview, esp. him referencing KG as his favorite player:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4718798/qa-celtics-forward-jae-crowder

ESPN.com: You’re a soft-spoken guy, but you type in all caps on Twitter (@CJC9BOSS). Why are you always shouting at us?

Crowder: I’m not really shouting. It’s just something I do that’s different. You notice when I do Tweet. It’s just something different. But I’m not really shouting at you.

[Froob]

Lol at adding Okafor, Waiters, AND JR Smith

LeBron will get his boy paid, why would JR come here?

[Froob]

Jae tweets in ALL CAPS. Every single time. Even his name and description on twitter is in all caps. If I didn't know who he is, I would have questions about his age and/or intelligence. What are the odds that no one mentioned that to him? He has friends/teammates.

Always liked this interview, esp. him referencing KG as his favorite player:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4718798/qa-celtics-forward-jae-crowder

ESPN.com: You’re a soft-spoken guy, but you type in all caps on Twitter (@CJC9BOSS). Why are you always shouting at us?

Crowder: I’m not really shouting. It’s just something I do that’s different. You notice when I do Tweet. It’s just something different. But I’m not really shouting at you.

Trading him would suck so much. He is the best example of a Celtic on the team.

[Slartibartfast]

Jae tweets in ALL CAPS. Every single time. Even his name and description on twitter is in all caps. If I didn't know who he is, I would have questions about his age and/or intelligence. What are the odds that no one mentioned that to him? He has friends/teammates.

He'll be easy to recognize when he posts here.

[truth18]

Jae's twitter is a **** disgrace. Stop typing in all caps you **** idiot.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

JR Smith? No. Now that he's won a title, he's probably going to spend the whole summer partying. The Cavs will regret signing him once they see him show up in training camp 15 lbs overweight and completely out of shape.

[AsijsLV]

What you guys think about Ty Lawson? He is free agent right now. If Danny makes some trades then maybe Boston should give chance to Lawson to brighter his reputation (ala Crawford and Turner)?

[OFWGKTA]

What you guys think about Ty Lawson? He is free agent right now. If Danny makes some trades then maybe Boston should give chance to Lawson to brighter his reputation (ala Crawford and Turner)?

**** that drunk

[Drax]

From the T&T board, random rumor thread. No idea about the credibility of the guy who tweeted it, just for some more rumor drama/fun in here ...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AdamJosephSport/status/755948114905751552[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AdamJosephSport/status/755957029882114048[/tweet]