Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[Celts17Pride]

Evan Sidery @esidery
2 minutes ago

The Thunder announced they’ve waived Usman Garuba. Garuba was traded from the Rockets to the Hawks, then re-routed to Oklahoma City.

[Memokerobi]

Evan Sidery @esidery
2 minutes ago

The Thunder announced they’ve waived Usman Garuba. Garuba was traded from the Rockets to the Hawks, then re-routed to Oklahoma City.

I'm down

[Celts17Pride]

Evan Sidery @esidery
2 minutes ago

The Thunder announced they’ve waived Usman Garuba. Garuba was traded from the Rockets to the Hawks, then re-routed to Oklahoma City.

I'm down

Definitely should be a player the Celtics consider as a 14th/15th emergency guy.

[zoyathedestroya]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

[Celts17Pride]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

Young (21 years old), a little undersized as a power forward/center. Rebounds, plays defense, energetic and a willing passer. Shot 41% from three last year with 59 attempts.

Worth a shot as a 14th/15th guy in my opinion.

[tfribs45]

Lol. Move on already!

I've moved on boyeee, I'm curious who you and the hate club members are going to get fixated with this year? My guess is Brogs, White, or JB will be next in line or simply Mazzula will have a "fire him now thread" by Dec lol.

Nah i doubt you’ve move on already. Stop calling smart smahhht lol. That’s fan boy language hahaha. Nope. Since Smart is gone, i’m fine with this roster win or lose.

fine whether we win or lose as long as a player's not on our roster lmao. That's fanboy, loser mentality if you ask me Triple..... And one of your fellow haters even liked the post hahahahahaha. Looking forward to seeing who you're going to cry about this year?! I'm sure you'll be fixated on someone during our Game Threads . Enjoy what's left of summer boyeee!

[zoyathedestroya]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

Young (21 years old), a little undersized as a power forward/center. Rebounds, plays defense, energetic and a willing passer. Shot 41% from three last year with 59 attempts.

Worth a shot as a 14th/15th guy in my opinion.

Still doesn't answer my question. Why do poverty teams like Thunder and Rockets, the exact type of teams who should be developing him and giving this guy a chance, giving him away? Why isn't he good enough to be their 14th or 15th man?

[Celts17Pride]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

Young (21 years old), a little undersized as a power forward/center. Rebounds, plays defense, energetic and a willing passer. Shot 41% from three last year with 59 attempts.

Worth a shot as a 14th/15th guy in my opinion.

Still doesn't answer my question. Why do poverty teams like Thunder and Rockets, the exact type of teams who should be developing him and giving this guy a chance, giving him away?

Honestly, don't know. Seems like he has good character also from reading a few articles.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

The fact that OKC waived him is a huge red flag, because they loved him in that draft.

[bisme37]

If there's a way to get Usman Garuba without giving up Tatum I'm certainly down.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

If there's a way to get Usman Garuba without giving up Tatum I'm certainly down.

There’s no way that’s possible for us, man.

[playa-hater]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

+1 for creativity

[ryan in Maine]

Garuba Jamaica ooh I wanna take ya

[playa-hater]

Paging Hal14

[playa-hater]

The fact that OKC waived him is a huge red flag, because they loved him in that draft.

I didn't see the "hype by some" on draft night. Still don't like him. But logically speaking we should definitely invite him for a camp spot. what can it hurt.

[Hal14]

So what's the deal with Garuba?

Why do RealGMs love him while real GMs just throw him away like gar(u)bage?

Young (21 years old), a little undersized as a power forward/center. Rebounds, plays defense, energetic and a willing passer. Shot 41% from three last year with 59 attempts.

Worth a shot as a 14th/15th guy in my opinion.

Still doesn't answer my question. Why do poverty teams like Thunder and Rockets, the exact type of teams who should be developing him and giving this guy a chance, giving him away? Why isn't he good enough to be their 14th or 15th man?

Thing is, even a team like that, there's only so many young guys you can develop at the same time and still have enough coaching resources, minutes, shot attempts to go around in order to actually develop all of them.

Houston drafted 4 guys in the 1st round in 2021 (Garuba, christopher, green, sengun), 3 guys in the 1st round in 2022 (eason, jabari, Tyty Washington) and 2 more guys in the 1st round this year (amen, whitmore).

That's 9 guys. There's no way in hell they can develop all of them. Not to mention Ime was just hired and he wants to win now so as a result, they added a bunch of vets this summer - so even less mins for young guys and developing young guys is now less of a priority.

Similar issue in OKC. They have a ton of guys who are 23 or under who need to still be developed. And they didn't even draft Garuba, he has played 0 games for OKC so the guys who have been there, who OKC drafted will take priority.

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[Dogen]

Evan Sidery @esidery
2 minutes ago

The Thunder announced they’ve waived Usman Garuba. Garuba was traded from the Rockets to the Hawks, then re-routed to Oklahoma City.

I'm down

Definitely should be a player the Celtics consider as a 14th/15th emergency guy.

[Hal14]

Should the C's sign Garuba? Well, there's 2 sides to the coin..

Side A: Yes, do it. In the short term he's a sufficient 4th/5th big man to eat some reg season mins, give some front court depth. He's a good defender who can protect the paint as well as switch out on the perimeter. Offensively he is raw and limited but he's a decent catch and shoot guy from 3, he can get some offensive rebounds, some tip-ins, some put-backs, he's a pretty good passer for a big and also runs the floor pretty well in transition to get some easy baskets that way. Long term, with hard work on his part and the right development by our staff, he could be a really solid 1st big off the bench - or possibly even a starter down the road (could maybe start alongside Porzingis, if perhaps down the road we trade Rob, or if Rob simply can't stay healthy so we just bring him off the bench full-time). Low risk, high reward pickup, do it!

Side B: no thanks. He's still raw, he's still a project on both ends of the floor - especially on offense. He's gonna need minutes in order to fully develop into a legit NBA player and he's not gonna get those kind of minutes in Boston - and it likely won't happen on any team that's a contender. The Celtics are trying to win a championship. We're not getting Banner 18 by adding a raw, young development project who's been in the league for 2 yrs already and is getting bounced around from team to team. We need proven vets on this team. Guys we know we can count on to contribute. We already have 2 unproven young guys on the team who need to be developed (Walsh, Banton). Plus we have Hauser who isn't super young but only has 2 yrs of experience (and 1 of those yrs he was in the g league for pretty much the whole season). We don't need anymore young kids to develop. People complain about how inconsistent our team was last season, like we were Jekyl and Hyde. Well, guess what? The younger the players are, the more inconsistent they play. You want a more consistent team, add proven vets who are age 28+.

I can see both sides to it. Where do I stand? I'm leaning a little more towards Side B on this one..but if we sign him, I wouldn't hate it.

[165bows]

Should the C's sign Garuba? Well, there's 2 sides to the coin..

Side A: Yes, do it. In the short term he's a sufficient 4th/5th big man to eat some reg season mins, give some front court depth. He's a good defender who can protect the paint as well as switch out on the perimeter. Offensively he is raw and limited but he's a decent catch and shoot guy from 3, he can get some offensive rebounds, some tip-ins, some put-backs, he's a pretty good passer for a big and also runs the floor pretty well in transition to get some easy baskets that way. Long term, with hard work on his part and the right development by our staff, he could be a really solid 1st big off the bench - or possibly even a starter down the road (could maybe start alongside Porzingis, if perhaps down the road we trade Rob, or if Rob simply can't stay healthy so we just bring him off the bench full-time). Low risk, high reward pickup, do it!

Side B: no thanks. He's still raw, he's still a project on both ends of the floor - especially on offense. He's gonna need minutes in order to fully develop into a legit NBA player and he's not gonna get those kind of minutes in Boston - and it likely won't happen on any team that's a contender. The Celtics are trying to win a championship. We're not getting Banner 18 by adding a raw, young development project who's been in the league for 2 yrs already and is getting bounced around from team to team. We need proven vets on this team. Guys we know we can count on to contribute. We already have 2 unproven young guys on the team who need to be developed (Walsh, Banton). Plus we have Hauser who isn't super young but only has 2 yrs of experience (and 1 of those yrs he was in the g league for pretty much the whole season). We don't need anymore young kids to develop. People complain about how inconsistent our team was last season, like we were Jekyl and Hyde. Well, guess what? The younger the players are, the more inconsistent they play. You want a more consistent team, add proven vets who are age 28+.

I can see both sides to it. Where do I stand? I'm leaning a little more towards Side B on this one..but if we sign him, I wouldn't hate it.

Well he wouldn't have issue getting PT in Maine. No way he gets more than a 2-way, if they valued him they could have traded for him into a TPE. Would be very surprised if he gets an NBA deal in Boston.