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OKC says hell no actually. I use to hate westbrook, but westbrook is a top 5 player this year. Rondo CAN be that good, but Westbrook brings it every night, and has become a decent passer. If i had to remake a team however i would choose Rondo as the PG and Westbrook as the SG. Rondo/Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka/Perkins...thats a serious team.
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Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
This is from Ken Berger of CBSSports.com
With Gay's departure, the Grizzlies' Big Three has morphed into what the team refers to as its Core Four: Gasol, Randolph, Mike Conley and Tony Allen. The plan, according to league sources, is to find ways to maximize those four foundational pieces in the short term while building around Gasol and Conley in the long term.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken ... themselves
Pretty easy to see how Green could fit in as a well-rounded player with those four guys, short and long-term. Not sure what they have that could be worth Green though IMO.
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
I don't think it's worth moving Green just for expirings.
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shawn unkempt wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
I don't think it's worth moving Green just for expirings.
Yeah it might backfire terribly if we didn't manage to sign Anthony. The best case scenario would be getting rid of Bass and Lee for expirings and keep Green just in case. But if this trade would give us any chance at making a run at Anthony I'd pull the trigger. I really like Jeff Green, I think he has potential to be one of the top SF in the game, but he just doesn't have the drive to do so..for the people who think Anthony is a loser and don't want him, don't kid yourselves. The guy is built like a **** tank, can easily score 30 points and grab you 8-12 rebounds anyday, while having one of the most complete offensive games in the league(maybe second to Durant in this department). Yeah I'll take him on my team anyday. Free agent next year, Danny is slipping if he's not targeting the guy.
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
You should get a first round pick or a good prospect too if you are dumping Green for expirings. Ed Davis is a young player, but not of enough long-term interest to part with Green.
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I would trade Green to the Grizz if we got there unprotected 1st round pick in the upcoming draft. I can see them being in the lottery in a strong West, & while I like Green as a complimentary piece on a contender I'm not sure he puts them over the line. Expirings plus pick works for me.
This is hardly even fair, the rest of the league is playing checkers and Danny Ainge is playing 12-dimensional chess.
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Waider wrote:I would trade Green to the Grizz if we got there unprotected 1st round pick in the upcoming draft. I can see them being in the lottery in a strong West, & while I like Green as a complimentary piece on a contender I'm not sure he puts them over the line. Expirings plus pick works for me.
Their 2015 is already traded to Cleveland so they can't trade their 2014.
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brackdan70 wrote:Waider wrote:I would trade Green to the Grizz if we got there unprotected 1st round pick in the upcoming draft. I can see them being in the lottery in a strong West, & while I like Green as a complimentary piece on a contender I'm not sure he puts them over the line. Expirings plus pick works for me.
Their 2015 is already traded to Cleveland so they can't trade their 2014.
My mistake, I see what you are saying now, only looked to see if they owned their pick this year, my bad.
This is hardly even fair, the rest of the league is playing checkers and Danny Ainge is playing 12-dimensional chess.
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If the Griz want a wing and don't want to cough up a significant player, lets dump Wallace on them 

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Slartibartfast wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
You should get a first round pick or a good prospect too if you are dumping Green for expirings. Ed Davis is a young player, but not of enough long-term interest to part with Green.
Yeah I don't think Ed Davis is a bad prospect. He's only 24. We can also ask for a first rounder of course. Not like their first rounders will be great in the next 2-3 years anyways, but still worth having.
gocelts wrote:If the Griz want a wing and don't want to cough up a significant player, lets dump Wallace on them
Or Courtney Lee..either way they need wings and we got a couple that can go for picks, space or prospects.
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I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
You should get a first round pick or a good prospect too if you are dumping Green for expirings. Ed Davis is a young player, but not of enough long-term interest to part with Green.
Yeah I don't think Ed Davis is a bad prospect. He's only 24. We can also ask for a first rounder of course. Not like their first rounders will be great in the next 2-3 years anyways, but still worth having.
I don't know much about Davis, would he pair well with Sully?
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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:shawn unkempt wrote:BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Grizzlies looking for athletic wing man.
Jeff Green for Ed Davis, Jarryd Bayless and Mike Miller? Three solid players on expiring contracts for a long term contract. If we let all 3 guys walk at the end of their contracts we would have less than 39 million committed into salary next year. That's enough to offer Carmelo Anthony a max contract if he really wants to play with Rondo.
Rondo, Bradley, Melo, Sullinger and you're one big man away from contending.
I don't think it's worth moving Green just for expirings.
Yeah it might backfire terribly if we didn't manage to sign Anthony. The best case scenario would be getting rid of Bass and Lee for expirings and keep Green just in case. But if this trade would give us any chance at making a run at Anthony I'd pull the trigger. I really like Jeff Green, I think he has potential to be one of the top SF in the game, but he just doesn't have the drive to do so..for the people who think Anthony is a loser and don't want him, don't kid yourselves. The guy is built like a **** tank, can easily score 30 points and grab you 8-12 rebounds anyday, while having one of the most complete offensive games in the league(maybe second to Durant in this department). Yeah I'll take him on my team anyday. Free agent next year, Danny is slipping if he's not targeting the guy.
I certainly want the Celtics to trade Green for a future first round pick and expirings but I'd rather have Green at 9 million for a few more years then Carmelo entering his 30's at 20+ million for 4 years. Green is 27 probably without much wear and tear on his legs and Anthony is 29 having played a lot of minutes.
Players with more complete offensive games right now then Anthony include Durant, Lebron, Chris Paul and James Harden. Stephen Curry and George may not have his versatility on offense as scorers but they have surpassed him on the offensive end as well.
The Celtics have to set their heights much higher then Anthony if they are interested in banner #18. I'd have much less of a problem with Anthony if he was coming on a team that had a 30 year old KG playing at a top 5 level but throwing away a huge amount of cap space for an Anthony that will be 30 doesn't make sense. Let the Knicks have his decline years at 20+ million a year.
If Anthony was a dominant defender then his offensive game would arguably be enough to be a true #1 player on a championship team but he hasn't been a very good defender.
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CelticFaninLBC wrote:I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
If he didn't, his opinion may have changed enough over the past year to be willing to do a deal. Green's PER/TS% have been better then his OKC days and earlier days in Boston. Green has also played well against Miami at times and had a pretty good playoffs last year. And most importantly Green has a very reasonable salary compared to some players at least.
I could see Hollinger thinking Green at his reasonable salary is worth Prince and a lightly protected pick. Perhaps something like Green for Prince and the Grizzlies 2017 or 2018 first round pick top 3 protected with the Celtics getting the choice of years. This sort of trade gives the Grizzlies a much better chance to win a playoff series or two this year. As for the Celtics, it hurts them now but it gives them another pick that could turn out great in a few years.
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CelticFaninLBC wrote:I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
Hollinger hates Jeff Green. Green will never go to the Grizz as long as Hollinger is there.
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If the price on Asik or Sanders is too high, I hope Ainge will kick the tires on Pau. Yes he's 33, yes his shooting percentages are a career-worst, but the guy is still putting up 18/11/4 per 36.
And I don't think it would take much to pry him away from LA. I don't think there's much chance they make him a competitive offer in free agency. This season is looking pretty much toast for them - Nash out indefinitely, Kobe out for another month or so, 12th and fading in a ferociously competitive West... The tank should be pretty inviting.
That and there won't be a lot of eligible suitors. The $20 mil price tag will scare off the contenders - impossible to match money without giving up too much value, plus the Lakers will want expiring contracts that they don't have.
Brooklyn may put in a bid with Pierce's expiring, but they really don't have any sweeteners and LA likely has little interest in Pierce the player so it would be pointless.
Memphis might offer Randolph but I think the Lakers would balk at his extra year.
Thus, I think a Boston crapola offer of Crawford/Hump/Bogans/Fav might actually be competitive. A low-cost commitment to an interesting center prospect. A half-season tryout of a skilled combo guard with RFA rights next season. And a pair of expiring contracts that won't hinder the tanking effort. Not all that dissimilar from the package the Lakers got Pau for in the first place when you think about it.
In return for that package Boston gets bird rights to probably the best big man in the 2014 free agent class. Pau is no longer the player that you'd build around, but he can still give you a double-double and great passing from the 5 spot. We'd still have a boatload of picks plus the TE to add another impact player or two to the returning Rondo, an improving Sully, a steady Green and a resigned Bradley. Pau would make a very appealing plug-in for that team at around $10 mil per.
And I don't think it would take much to pry him away from LA. I don't think there's much chance they make him a competitive offer in free agency. This season is looking pretty much toast for them - Nash out indefinitely, Kobe out for another month or so, 12th and fading in a ferociously competitive West... The tank should be pretty inviting.
That and there won't be a lot of eligible suitors. The $20 mil price tag will scare off the contenders - impossible to match money without giving up too much value, plus the Lakers will want expiring contracts that they don't have.
Brooklyn may put in a bid with Pierce's expiring, but they really don't have any sweeteners and LA likely has little interest in Pierce the player so it would be pointless.
Memphis might offer Randolph but I think the Lakers would balk at his extra year.
Thus, I think a Boston crapola offer of Crawford/Hump/Bogans/Fav might actually be competitive. A low-cost commitment to an interesting center prospect. A half-season tryout of a skilled combo guard with RFA rights next season. And a pair of expiring contracts that won't hinder the tanking effort. Not all that dissimilar from the package the Lakers got Pau for in the first place when you think about it.
In return for that package Boston gets bird rights to probably the best big man in the 2014 free agent class. Pau is no longer the player that you'd build around, but he can still give you a double-double and great passing from the 5 spot. We'd still have a boatload of picks plus the TE to add another impact player or two to the returning Rondo, an improving Sully, a steady Green and a resigned Bradley. Pau would make a very appealing plug-in for that team at around $10 mil per.
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Celts17Pride wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
Hollinger hates Jeff Green. Green will never go to the Grizz as long as Hollinger is there.
Where are you getting the impression Hollinger hates Green? Did he write about him in an article or something?
He seems like a Hollinger type of player. Great corner 3 shooter, good in transition and at the rim.
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shawn unkempt wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
Hollinger hates Jeff Green. Green will never go to the Grizz as long as Hollinger is there.
Where are you getting the impression Hollinger hates Green? Did he write about him in an article or something?
He seems like a Hollinger type of player. Great corner 3 shooter, good in transition and at the rim.
He wrote an article about Green. Thinks he is well overpaid and has very limited skill set. Says Ainge bid against himself. Doesn't like Green at all as a player.
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shawn unkempt wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:I don't think John Hollinger, who's VP of Basketball Operations for the Griz, likes Green...
Hollinger hates Jeff Green. Green will never go to the Grizz as long as Hollinger is there.
Where are you getting the impression Hollinger hates Green? Did he write about him in an article or something?
He seems like a Hollinger type of player. Great corner 3 shooter, good in transition and at the rim.
based on his opinion of Green when he use to write about the nba.
Edit: Damn autocorrect.