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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1161 » by ryan in Maine » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:39 pm

Lol @ JB being the opposite of an MVP
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Post#1162 » by djFan71 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:24 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Hope JB turns it around in the playoffs.

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1163 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:05 pm

NBA players who have spent their entire career with one team since 2000, minimum 10 seasons:
• Udonis Haslem, 20 seasons w/ MIA
• Manu Ginobili, 16 seasons w/ SAS
• Steph Curry, 16* seasons w/ GSW
• Nick Collison, 14 seasons w OKC
• Draymond Green, 13* seasons w/ GSW
• Giannis Antetokounmpo, 12* seasons w/ MIL
• Nikola Jokic, 10* seasons w/ DEN
• Devin Booker, 10* seasons w/ PHX
• Myles Turner, 10* seasons w/ IND
• Kevon Looney, 10* seasons w/ GSW

*still active.

JB on the verge of joining this list next season. Obviously, the active names could still be removed from the list if they move teams at some point.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1164 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:30 am

Haven't watched this yet...

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1165 » by Infinite Llamas » Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:49 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:JB's three ball is completely unacceptable this season. :wavefinger:


We just read a lot of literature on why Luke Kornet stopped shooting 3’s…because he wasn’t making them at an efficient pace and wasn’t an effective floor spacer.

We should use that logic with Brown too. Nobody guards him on the perimeter. Most of his attempts are wide open. I truly wish he would stop jacking 3’s but it’s never gonna happen at this point.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1166 » by Stan34 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm

Infinite Llamas wrote:
ryan in Maine wrote:JB's three ball is completely unacceptable this season. :wavefinger:


We just read a lot of literature on why Luke Kornet stopped shooting 3’s…because he wasn’t making them at an efficient pace and wasn’t an effective floor spacer.

We should use that logic with Brown too. Nobody guards him on the perimeter. Most of his attempts are wide open. I truly wish he would stop jacking 3’s but it’s never gonna happen at this point.
You think Joe wants JB to stop shooting threes? Jaylen is a 36% carrier shooter. One bad season is not a benchmark. He is streaky, with Phoenix he was 4/9. Don't take a wide open shot is a win for the defense. Last year we won a title with JB shooting 33% from 3 in the playoffs.
And JT shooting 28%.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1167 » by Infinite Llamas » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:20 pm

Stan34 wrote:
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ryan in Maine wrote:JB's three ball is completely unacceptable this season. :wavefinger:


We just read a lot of literature on why Luke Kornet stopped shooting 3’s…because he wasn’t making them at an efficient pace and wasn’t an effective floor spacer.

We should use that logic with Brown too. Nobody guards him on the perimeter. Most of his attempts are wide open. I truly wish he would stop jacking 3’s but it’s never gonna happen at this point.
You think Joe wants JB to stop shooting threes? Jaylen is a 36% carrier shooter. One bad season is not a benchmark. He is streaky, with Phoenix he was 4/9. Don't take a wide open shot is a win for the defense. Last year we won a title with JB shooting 33% from 3 in the playoffs.
And JT shooting 28%.
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Yeah…don’t go by last year.

We won’t be facing an injured Heat team, injured Cavs team, injured Pacers team and the Mavericks this year. You only face who’s in front of you, but it was hardly the most challenging of paths to a title. And that poor shooting will be exposed this year against better teams.

Anytime Brown shoots a 3 is an absolute win for the defense. He’s been trending down as a shooter since 2021. His midrange game has even been a travesty this year. Interestingly, his free throw numbers are liking better, which makes it inexplicable why he isn’t attacking the paint more.
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Post#1168 » by 165bows » Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:17 pm

Infinite Llamas wrote:
Stan34 wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
We just read a lot of literature on why Luke Kornet stopped shooting 3’s…because he wasn’t making them at an efficient pace and wasn’t an effective floor spacer.

We should use that logic with Brown too. Nobody guards him on the perimeter. Most of his attempts are wide open. I truly wish he would stop jacking 3’s but it’s never gonna happen at this point.
You think Joe wants JB to stop shooting threes? Jaylen is a 36% carrier shooter. One bad season is not a benchmark. He is streaky, with Phoenix he was 4/9. Don't take a wide open shot is a win for the defense. Last year we won a title with JB shooting 33% from 3 in the playoffs.
And JT shooting 28%.
I think you miss something about basketball.

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Yeah…don’t go by last year.

We won’t be facing an injured Heat team, injured Cavs team, injured Pacers team and the Mavericks this year. You only face who’s in front of you, but it was hardly the most challenging of paths to a title. And that poor shooting will be exposed this year against better teams.

Anytime Brown shoots a 3 is an absolute win for the defense. He’s been trending down as a shooter since 2021. His midrange game has even been a travesty this year. Interestingly, his free throw numbers are liking better, which makes it inexplicable why he isn’t attacking the paint more.

I tend to agree w this though the counterpoint is that offensive efficiency goes down as teams move through the playoffs and play better teams/schemes.

Jaylen otoh one of his big strengths is just hitting tough shots and pretty much shoots his career numbers through his playoff career as well (coincidentally about how both teams averaged from deep in the finals last year in the whole).

But I’d never thought of it this before but JB’s struggles from three in the finals might be a real part of what kept id from being a bigger blowout than it was.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1169 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:35 pm

165bows wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Stan34 wrote:You think Joe wants JB to stop shooting threes? Jaylen is a 36% carrier shooter. One bad season is not a benchmark. He is streaky, with Phoenix he was 4/9. Don't take a wide open shot is a win for the defense. Last year we won a title with JB shooting 33% from 3 in the playoffs.
And JT shooting 28%.
I think you miss something about basketball.

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Yeah…don’t go by last year.

We won’t be facing an injured Heat team, injured Cavs team, injured Pacers team and the Mavericks this year. You only face who’s in front of you, but it was hardly the most challenging of paths to a title. And that poor shooting will be exposed this year against better teams.

Anytime Brown shoots a 3 is an absolute win for the defense. He’s been trending down as a shooter since 2021. His midrange game has even been a travesty this year. Interestingly, his free throw numbers are liking better, which makes it inexplicable why he isn’t attacking the paint more.

I tend to agree w this though the counterpoint is that offensive efficiency goes down as teams move through the playoffs and play better teams/schemes.

Jaylen otoh one of his big strengths is just hitting tough shots and pretty much shoots his career numbers through his playoff career as well (coincidentally about how both teams averaged from deep in the finals last year in the whole).

But I’d never thought of it this before but JB’s struggles from three in the finals might be a real part of what kept id from being a bigger blowout than it was.

JB's poor shooting from 3 is compounded by Jrue's own regression from 3 this year. A reason why the starting lineup has struggled so much this season. Then there's a bit of opponent shooting luck from 3 with the regular starters in. They're still in the negative as a unit for the season with only a few games left.

You just kinda hope they hit timely shots when it counts the most.
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Post#1170 » by 165bows » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:01 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
165bows wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Yeah…don’t go by last year.

We won’t be facing an injured Heat team, injured Cavs team, injured Pacers team and the Mavericks this year. You only face who’s in front of you, but it was hardly the most challenging of paths to a title. And that poor shooting will be exposed this year against better teams.

Anytime Brown shoots a 3 is an absolute win for the defense. He’s been trending down as a shooter since 2021. His midrange game has even been a travesty this year. Interestingly, his free throw numbers are liking better, which makes it inexplicable why he isn’t attacking the paint more.

I tend to agree w this though the counterpoint is that offensive efficiency goes down as teams move through the playoffs and play better teams/schemes.

Jaylen otoh one of his big strengths is just hitting tough shots and pretty much shoots his career numbers through his playoff career as well (coincidentally about how both teams averaged from deep in the finals last year in the whole).

But I’d never thought of it this before but JB’s struggles from three in the finals might be a real part of what kept id from being a bigger blowout than it was.

JB's poor shooting from 3 is compounded by Jrue's own regression from 3 this year. A reason why the starting lineup has struggled so much this season. Then there's a bit of opponent shooting luck from 3 with the regular starters in. They're still in the negative as a unit for the season with only a few games left.

You just kinda hope they hit timely shots when it counts the most.

Yeah interesting the differences from last year esp Jrue. This says their eFG% from their starters (KP version) is equal to the team as the whole, whereas their scoring is down but it’s really the rebounding that is struggling the most. So the double big convo in the other thread makes a lot of sense in that light.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2025/lineups/

Ie starters have been better from 2, worse from 3, and oddly bad in the boards compared to the team as a whole. Seems like reason for optimism there imo but could be my homerism there.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1171 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:13 pm

165bows wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
165bows wrote:I tend to agree w this though the counterpoint is that offensive efficiency goes down as teams move through the playoffs and play better teams/schemes.

Jaylen otoh one of his big strengths is just hitting tough shots and pretty much shoots his career numbers through his playoff career as well (coincidentally about how both teams averaged from deep in the finals last year in the whole).

But I’d never thought of it this before but JB’s struggles from three in the finals might be a real part of what kept id from being a bigger blowout than it was.

JB's poor shooting from 3 is compounded by Jrue's own regression from 3 this year. A reason why the starting lineup has struggled so much this season. Then there's a bit of opponent shooting luck from 3 with the regular starters in. They're still in the negative as a unit for the season with only a few games left.

You just kinda hope they hit timely shots when it counts the most.

Yeah interesting the differences from last year esp Jrue. This says their eFG% from their starters (KP version) is equal to the team as the whole, whereas their scoring is down but it’s really the rebounding that is struggling the most. So the double big convo in the other thread makes a lot of sense in that light.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2025/lineups/

Ie starters have been better from 2, worse from 3, and oddly bad in the boards compared to the team as a whole. Seems like reason for optimism there imo but could be my homerism there.


Look at the 2nd lines of each image. First graphic with 1293 possessions is starting lineup last season. Second graphic with 680 possessions is this season.

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On offense, everything on the four factors has been worse except for taking care of the ball. On defense, rebounding and forcing turnovers are better but opponents have shot better and gotten to the line more.
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Post#1172 » by 165bows » Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:16 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
165bows wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:JB's poor shooting from 3 is compounded by Jrue's own regression from 3 this year. A reason why the starting lineup has struggled so much this season. Then there's a bit of opponent shooting luck from 3 with the regular starters in. They're still in the negative as a unit for the season with only a few games left.

You just kinda hope they hit timely shots when it counts the most.

Yeah interesting the differences from last year esp Jrue. This says their eFG% from their starters (KP version) is equal to the team as the whole, whereas their scoring is down but it’s really the rebounding that is struggling the most. So the double big convo in the other thread makes a lot of sense in that light.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2025/lineups/

Ie starters have been better from 2, worse from 3, and oddly bad in the boards compared to the team as a whole. Seems like reason for optimism there imo but could be my homerism there.


Look at the 2nd lines of each image (regular starting unit). First graphic with 1293 possessions is starting lineup last season. Second graphic with 680 possessions is this season.

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On offense, everything on the four factors has been worse except for taking care of the ball. On defense, rebounding and forcing turnovers are better but opponents have shot better and gotten to the line more.

Cool I will take a look - this is a different comparison type than I was making, which is starters this year relative to the entire team performance this year.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1173 » by ryan in Maine » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:32 pm

I think JB has to hyperfocus when he adds a new skill. This season he's been working on his playmaking and reads. Perhaps to the detriment of other facets of his game.

I choose to believe he's going to peak at the perfect time and all the work he's put in this season is going to be exactly what we need right when we need it.

Bc it looks like he's hardly even working on the 3 ball to get it back to average. Or better yet .375.
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Post#1174 » by Triple M » Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:33 am

Is him playing through this injury low key made him a better play makes because he is playing under control
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Post#1175 » by Castle Black » Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:30 am

JB done cut off his locks.

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Post#1176 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Apr 5, 2025 11:09 am

JB moved past Antoine Walker for 14th most career points as a Celtic. If he can match/exceed his single-season career high in points next season, he would move into the top 10 past Heinsohn, Sharman, JoJo White, and Cowens.
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Post#1177 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:14 pm

JB has a case for All-NBA. He just needs to play in 4 of the last 5.

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Post#1178 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 5:49 pm

Washburn said is his most recent article that Jaylen has been hinting that he may have a procedure before the playoffs.

That's certainly not going to be surgery, and Donovan Mitchell had a PRP injection last year when he had the same thing sooooooo...
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Post#1179 » by bisme37 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 6:03 pm

Noa Dalzell article about JB playing through knee pain and studying Paul Pierce as a way to still be effective....

https://www.celticsblog.com/2025/4/5/24401509/celtics-jaylen-brown-knee-injury-joe-mazzulla-jayson-tatum-paul-pierce
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Post#1180 » by threrf23 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 7:04 pm

“It’s funny because he was at the game today, but before the game, I was watching some Paul Pierce footage, just getting to your spots, playing at a certain pace,” Brown said. “And today I felt like I didn’t have my normal burst, but I was still able to be effective. So I think that’s good.

“As we continue to move forward, I’m hoping to feel better and better. But there’s no guarantee that rest or anything like that is going to make this thing better, so kind of figuring it out and going through it and getting ready for the playoffs.”


When Jaylen is healthy, I feel like he sometimes plays too fast, faster than he can fully survey the floor if not process the game. Sometimes everything clicks and he plays a superstar. But I've often felt he would benefit from slowing down a tiny bit and making more of an effort to survey the floor before making moves.

This injury is forcing him to slow down a bit, and hopefully some good will come of it. But he looks obviously hobbled. If added rest might help, I feel like he should be sitting out rn.

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